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04-25-2016 04:06 AM  31 months agoPost 1
Chris.C

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Hi,

I had my Skycrane test flight this weekend. It is not brand new but it was built professionally. I was pretty nervous to fly this as this is my first time with anticlockwise multiblades head and 4 points swash.

Watch at YouTube

Sorry for the quality of the video as it was taken with a phone camera. Obviously the next things to deal with are blade tracking, CGY tuning, etc.

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04-25-2016 04:39 AM  31 months agoPost 2
TailKiller

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That's nice!! I bet that was a long 1:39 sec.. I would need a stiff drink and a nap to get my heart to slow down.. lol

,Dennis
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04-25-2016 06:49 AM  31 months agoPost 3
goodhunting

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I remember my first CCW multiblade helicopter... I was sooo nervous as everything "was wrong being the opposite direction"... took me a while but I had a blast...

congratulations on the maiden...

gh

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04-25-2016 07:52 PM  31 months agoPost 4
Copter Doctor

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Very cool and great job. I've flown ccw heads before but never comuttrd myself to owning one. I'll have to do one so I can get used to it and have no handicaps

drive a rotary, fly a rotorcraft

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04-26-2016 07:51 AM  31 months agoPost 5
Chris.C

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Thank you guys for your kind words.

If the weather permits me, I will do another flight this weekend. Before that, I think I need to do the blade tracking. On the Vario head, I guess I need to measure all 6 blades. I just set one blade pitch and copy it to the other 5.

Shown in the video, I was trying to taxi the chopper. It looks ok but it can not turn without lifting the front a bit. Is there anyone who done that before care to share how to make the nose gear steerable?

I think it looks cool to have it taxi down the run way with stobe lights on.

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04-26-2016 12:10 PM  31 months agoPost 6
Sparkhead

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G'day Chris,

Looks great. I thought I was going well with my 4 blade head this week but you have to deal with 6!!!!

Good luck with the tracking.


Mick.

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04-26-2016 02:47 PM  31 months agoPost 7
Sleeper

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Nice job Chris Congratulations First of many flights. The first one is always the hardest one Regards, Gayl

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04-27-2016 03:18 AM  31 months agoPost 8
MDSCUSTOMS

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Nice job Chris, sounds awesome with that turbine engine in there too.

What I can't understand is, there are many full size machines out there with CCW rotation (and quite a few well known ones too) so why aren't rc models made that way. The only ones I know of in production now are Vario.

I have 2 Graupner / heim machines here and 2 Morleys and they all have CCW rotation on them. Getting hold of the blades for them is a different matter unless I use Symmetrical section blades.(The Vario blades are too big for these)

Would love to see more manufacturers taking note of what the full size heli world is doing and tailor their models / products to suit. (Especially when it comes to scale)

Mark

I'm only here coz I'm not all there !!

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04-27-2016 04:31 AM  31 months agoPost 9
Copter Doctor

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with electrics it is easier to do ccw main rotor systems. with nitro and gas, you were at the mercy of the engines direction of operation unless you di your own mods. many modelers, (myself included) have flown models with cw main rotor system for many years and flying a model with ccw head is a learning experience. one of these days I will do one ccw so I can finally get used to it and move on.

drive a rotary, fly a rotorcraft

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04-27-2016 05:06 AM  31 months agoPost 10
Heli143

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Hi Mark,
Roban makes scalers with CCW rotation as per the full size.

I have their 429 and 407 which are both CCW rotation.

Take care!

Roy Mayoral

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04-27-2016 05:26 AM  31 months agoPost 11
MDSCUSTOMS

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Thanks, I'll check them out for their blades.

Mark

I'm only here coz I'm not all there !!

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04-27-2016 05:28 AM  31 months agoPost 12
Chris.C

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I shared the same observation as well in that CW rotor head is the most popular head in RC world opposite to what we find in full size world.

However, I believe, to most of us this is just a momentarily challenge. With the information we get in the forum(RR is one good example), we will get over it and get used to it.

I just read the latest but very interesting article by John Mauldin, a US economist and seasoned writer. He wrote on the demograhic situation of the world. In developed world and China, we are getting less and less new born and people lives longer but healthier.

Applying this to RC heli world (BTW, this is my own projection), the population of 3D pilots will shrink(or is shrinking) in the coming years and the interests in scale helicopters will grow assuming these "getting old" people will stay in the hobby.

Forgive me BS a little.

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04-28-2016 07:06 AM  31 months agoPost 13
MDSCUSTOMS

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Chris C. Fully agreed with you there, I tend to think the 3D guys will eventually get fed up with all the expense of smashing their machines to bits trying to outdo each other with fancy moves and plus all the expense of keeping up with the latest machines etc. (No offence to the 3D flyers out there)

With Scale, there is no other limit, we have turbine powered models now at the top end of the scale, I don't think you can go further than that.

The rest is up to you how far you take that scale model to make it look like the real thing. I am quite happy to sit and build mine and do all the extra detailing, Rivets are still a pain to do but, the end result is well worth it.

Barely a week has gone since I've completed a restoration project (not a scale Heli but a Micro Mold Lark) and now I've started a new project. This one is scale and yes it has CCW rotation. Not a problem as it is a Lynx AH7 which also has same on the real thing. Finding those BERP tipped blades may take a little longer though

Regards

Mark

I'm only here coz I'm not all there !!

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04-28-2016 07:09 AM  31 months agoPost 14
cdrking

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(No offence to the 3D flyers out there)
Too late.

To hover is divine, the alternative is rather PLANE.

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04-28-2016 07:31 AM  31 months agoPost 15
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cdrking - Been there and tried it but only on the sim. I can do mild 3D but it's not for me.

Mark

I'm only here coz I'm not all there !!

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04-28-2016 12:16 PM  31 months agoPost 16
Copter Doctor

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with electrics especially, ccw or cw, the choice is yours. ( some mods required)
as for 3d, I am not a 3d flier nor do I care to be but, I don't see it fading away over time. what I have seen fase away, isn't the 3d style of flying, but the pilots. I have over the years observed top 3dpilots conming and going and replaced my new talented flyers. The pilot generation may change more often than that of scale but I think the style of flying is here to stay for a long time, at least I hope it does, it is without a doubt entertaining to watch.

drive a rotary, fly a rotorcraft

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04-29-2016 03:31 AM  31 months agoPost 17
Margaritaman

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Cool!

I enjoyed the CCW/CW comments. I get weirded out with CW helis since everything I have is CCW.

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04-30-2016 03:01 AM  31 months agoPost 18
MDSCUSTOMS

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Margaritaman - You can relax as you now know you are not alone flying CCW machines.

Mark

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05-02-2016 02:53 PM  31 months agoPost 19
Chris.C

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I have more flights with my Skycrane this weekend.

I notice that when it flies upwind, it likes to pitch up heavily(like i pulled the elevator up but I did not). When it flies downwind, it pitches down.

I set my CGY750 in H4-00, so I do not need to do swash rotation to 45 degree. On the bench it is perfect with one blade over the boom method.

Did I set anything wrong?

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05-02-2016 03:20 PM  31 months agoPost 20
ssmith512

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What firmware version are you running on the CGY750? V2.0??

Steve

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