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04-25-2016 03:00 AM  31 months agoPost 1
GyroFreak

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Sent as an email to me from a friend.

As a brief reminder for those who forgot or for many that didn't know

Here is what happened, quietly, on January 1, 2016

Medicare tax went from 1.45% to 2.35%

Top Income tax bracket went from 35% to 39.6%

Top Income payroll tax went from 37.4% to 52.2%

Capital Gains tax went from 15% to 28%

Dividend tax went from 15% to 39.6%

Estate tax went from 0% to 55%

A 3.5% Real Estate transaction tax was added.

Remember these facts:
These taxes were all passed solely with Democrat votes.

Not a single Republican voted for these new taxes.

These taxes were all passed in the Affordable Care Act, aka Obamacare.

I can personally speak as to how affordable the “Affordable Care Act” is. Even though every year Rosemary has to re-apply. Then you receive a notice to what your premium will be. She has a middle of the road Silver Plan.

The first year, at tax time , I was informed she didn’t pay enough which resulted in a $953 fine. Even though she had the document stating the lower number. And then her monthly payment went up $105 and her deductible went up $3500.

Last year, the same story. Had the new premium number. What no one seems to know is that should you take a couple of thousand dollars from an IRA, that changes your adjusted gross income, that means you have to notify Obie’s plan. I did not know that so at tax time I had to pay a $1440 penalty this year. Oh buy the way, her deductible went to $6500 and max out of pocket to $7500 as well as her premium raise up another $96 a month.

What a great country Obama has turned it into.

Remember, it had to be passed before we knew what was in it.

Fred

I think about the hereafter. I go somewhere to get something, then wonder what I'm here after ?

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04-25-2016 04:04 AM  31 months agoPost 2
es1co2bar3

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Very interesting but I can guarantee you that the 40% of the people in this country isn't aware of any tax increase," the sad part is that they dont even care,"
"Let me emphasize this for a min, "you see 1) military Garrison, 2) adding the security of Israel and Europe on Tax players pay roll," + to restock and supply Arms."

This kind of stuff take money and it have to come from somewhere." Us."

I hope you're not crying as I don't want to cry we are not going to solve anything doing such."
I am tired of paying," the only solution is rebellion.:

I don't understand how a people who is said to control their Government is neutral, and the Government is in control of them," This'swrong and it only a complete rebellious nations can turn the tide."

But wait', that might be impossible as they soon take all the gun and if we refuse gave 'm up they'll casterate us,"

Anyway thank for the posts bro,"

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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04-25-2016 10:16 PM  31 months agoPost 3
spaceman spiff

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I looked up a few of those claims. Some are not true.

Still, taxes are brutal. The Brits took 10% in taxes from our forefathers and it pissed them off. The percentage is much higher now. By the time you have spent it half has been taken away. Worst of all these retards can't make it work.

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04-25-2016 10:57 PM  31 months agoPost 4
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This is nothing more then a HOODRAT tax that amounts to communism.

It gives all those drug addict scumbags on welfare free care, the working class cannot now afford.

This HOODRAT has made healthcare unaffordable for the common man and FREE for the HOODRATs

[hoodrats does not mean black, they come in all kinds of disgusting colors and lack of]

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04-25-2016 11:39 PM  31 months agoPost 5
spaceman spiff

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Honestly, people should turn on cspan and watch the clowns do their magic. After only a half hour or so no sane person will want to let them have much authority, and definitely won't want to send them more money.

The way i see it, anyone who will shrink goverment is my friend. Unfortunately i am not seeing a whole lot of friends on CSPAN.

They spent a trillion on a fighter plane that is still not ready and they won't do squat about it. Instead they will sort out which bathrooms are suitable for us all.

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04-26-2016 12:45 AM  31 months agoPost 6
newbheliusr

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My wife who is from Britain was all gung ho about the healthcare reform. But I kept telling her, what they tell us we will get, and what we actually get will be two vastly different things. Affordable my ass. Here's what I did before my employer started footing the bill for all my ins. Say a company wanted $400 a month to insure me. Well even after you spend the $400 per month it still costs you more. Hard to believe huh? Well most of you know about deductibles and the ins only pays 80%. Well here's what I did. I figure it this way. If I get sick, I just go to the doctor and when I get a bill, I offer them $400 a month. And all of it goes toward my bill.........no 80%. If there is one thing that should be made non profit in this country, it's health insurance companies. Just my .02

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04-26-2016 12:55 AM  31 months agoPost 7
outhouse

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even if your co pay is 200 a month from employer

After 5 years that is 11,000 spent, let alone the actual bill you spend on YEARLY deductible of 4000.

The gov let the insurance company's bend us over dry

Before HOODRAT care! it was what $125 a month and 2000 deductible, which was a scam at best at that price.

Vote republican and end this crap for freeloaders

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04-26-2016 01:03 AM  31 months agoPost 8
GREYEAGLE

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They ALL are Non Profit : Why Doctor's are leaving private pratice's : Not Worth It
If there is one thing that should be made non profit in this country, it's health insurance companies. Just my .02
FREE .o2 cent's and a Bug or Lint in your pocket is what did it.

18 TRILLION in DEBT and Growing - Just ONe of the Nugget's

AMERICAN"S will Figure it OUT

The Industry Does NOT get Paid : AND Sam's FREE HEALTH Care for the Indigenous Global Citizen Import didn't work. THE AMERICAN TAXPAYER Now on Socialized Medicine. For OTHER National's.

Go into a Emergency Outpatient - Some nite ! Guess what if you speak English you are the Minority - Last thing you want to do is sit in a Waiting room or touch any thing.

Go into a Public Health Clinic - Needed Interpreter's just to transcribe documentation they can not read or write. Financials ??
Forget it - FREE or we have our baby on the carpet or DIE on the DESK.

One Big Happy Global Family for FREE HEALTH CARE and Tuberculosis is now RAMPANT.

CRAZY - Doctor's and Staff Not getting Paid - Operating at a Loss

Now ? Micro Encephalitis ?? Few more on the list

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04-26-2016 02:15 PM  31 months agoPost 9
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If it was so great why does the people that mandate this crap take it?

Got to have my cup of heli in the morning.

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04-26-2016 03:37 PM  31 months agoPost 10
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04-26-2016 03:51 PM  31 months agoPost 11
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Won't be long now. Wheels will be coming off soon.

If it isn't beating the air up it isn't flying

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04-26-2016 08:26 PM  31 months agoPost 12
GREYEAGLE

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January 1942

What is being left on the News producers cutting room floor ???

greyeagle

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04-26-2016 08:43 PM  31 months agoPost 13
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It gives all those drug addict scumbags on welfare free care, the working class cannot now afford.
People forget those "scumbags" got free care before. They went to the ER, got care, ignored the bill. Then the hospital jacked rates for all of us that DO pay, and those rates where passed on in health insurance premiums.

I get the oatrage... What I want to know is what is your alternative??? The old system was broken. The Democrats wanted universal medicare but couldn't get it. So they settled on this plan, which was invented by REPUBLICANS (*cough* CATO institute and then Romney in Mass *cough*)

So stop your bitching and start proposing an alternative - other than going back to where we started.

-Jeremy
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04-26-2016 09:02 PM  31 months agoPost 14
outhouse

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It was MUCH cheaper before welfare care.

I never said it did not need help.

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04-26-2016 09:14 PM  31 months agoPost 15
GREYEAGLE

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The Democrats wanted universal medicare but couldn't get it. So they settled on this plan, which was invented by REPUBLICANS
OH JEEZE >>>>>>>>>> ck your paper's - CASH !

Tied into a lot deeper stuff than most can fathom like the IRS :
Just as a begginer starting point.

Your about 8 YEAR's LATE

You OBAMA care or State furnished what EVER is Not worth the paper it written on - many states wont even take it

greyeagle

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04-26-2016 09:20 PM  31 months agoPost 16
es1co2bar3

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I already stated the fact that we seen the tax increase and pretend we don't known why, "let make note, it cost to colonized the worlds." The big bad US act like world Santa,"
And Tax players have to fill the Bag at all cost."

Madhouse think domestic spending is the problem." And free ßl@"(k loader) as well."

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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04-26-2016 10:12 PM  31 months agoPost 17
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The republican plan was to limit malpractice lawsuits. Probably the biggest expense any doctor and hospital has. The cost gets passed on to us of course. Problem is all of the democrats in congress are lawyers. Govt is now of and by and for the lawyers.

Annother biggee here is folks jumping up across the border who dont pay thier bills. Free care and free instant citizenship when their kids pop out here.

Have you ever looked at an insurance payout? Doctor asks for 800 and the insurance says sorry, only paying 450$. The insurance company has talent and motivation to negotiate. The govt has neither.

I will let the local govt pick up the trash at the curb and pave the roads. The roads suck here BTW... That is already a bit beyond the limit of responcibility they can handle.

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04-28-2016 02:25 PM  31 months agoPost 18
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Had absolutely nothing to do with Medical Liability or medical Tort Liability:

Had absolutely NOTHING to do with the Civil American Population--
nor / ANY responsibility of the " Republican party " that was off the TABLE:

It was actually forced down the Democratic Leader Ship for their personal financial survival : GREED and Political Power of DESPOT's

We gota Vote for It : To Find out what's in it : PELOSI

CONGRESS was DEFEATED by the Administration:

KNEW it when he Campaigned on it PRIOR to Election -
THE GAME of GLOBALIZATION

You cannot over write history with LIE - FACT

greyeagle

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04-28-2016 06:32 PM  31 months agoPost 19
newbheliusr

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That's why when you go to the doctor, if you don't have insurance you get a really large bill. And if you do have insurance you get a smaller bill, because insurance isn't going to pay these crazy fees. $20 for a box of tissue and so on. Hospitals are like movie theaters. It's cheap to get in, but man if you want something to eat or drink it's super expensive.

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04-28-2016 06:57 PM  31 months agoPost 20
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You have it exactly reversed : So DO NOT LIE -

What is AMERICA KNOWN FOR INTERNATIONALLY : A Judea Christian Nation ;

Ecuador just got body slammed with a terrible earth quake along with several Other Locations " : Who's running in with Health / Benevolence / Food : Tip ??? They are NOT CHINESE or Muslim So WHO ?

Ecuador a Socialist country can't even get basic water to the populated location's. People have NO- Freedom - No Ownership of ANYTHING

Who is NOT HELPING the Down Trodden ??

Then THIS ?? :
That's why when you go to the doctor, if you don't have insurance you get a really large bill. And if you do have insurance you get a smaller bill, because insurance isn't going to pay these crazy fees.

NEver been denied
: THE USA is a relativity SMALL NATION of Sovereignty The Benevolent one's of LOVING CARE

WHY is the GLOBE trying to POUR in or RE- LOCATE ?? or Why do populations relocate like in EUROPE ?????

What's going on in the Middle EAST ? for Humanitarian need's ?
Is it CHINESE / Indochinese / Philippine / Jakarta or Muslim or South AMERICA ?

Presently their are massive populations in South Sudan : Of Children
STARVING and DIEING do to POOR HEALTH care because the ADULTS will not feed them - GUESS WHO is preventing access ??

Time for Peanut to take a day OFF or start STUDYING like a CRASH STUDY

greyeagle

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