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04-25-2016 02:20 AM  31 months agoPost 21
es1co2bar3

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winnetka california

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The way I see it.
If the person does not like learning new technical stuff related to flying RC.
If they don't want to work to build new skills.
If they are shocked when I say about a 1000$, Then this hobby isn't for them.
We need the like button," You're spot on bro,"

"Please guy don't take my post the wrong way, the
OP, made a honest decision , as you know prevention is sometime the best cure, "and that all that matter," I only caution him that I've had similar situations."

I learn the hard way I never had anyone to help me out, I remember buying a bunch of heli from Xheli' at the time for they was all I know."
I didn't even know how to hover."

I started blame them that their heli don't fly but it was me that couldn't fly.'

And J. Gave me the a 1st E-sky simple dic with one heli 1 Plane, and that when I understand the radio stick movement, then I met a bro same place @ xheli he took me to long Beach to practice on his real flights sim." It only take me 1 min after that to quit the Hobby." The simulator was hard

The guy who show me Alan Sabo 3D vid, keep pushing me he then download real flight for me and take 3 day to get the E-sky radio to work the sim"

And from there everyday the flight just got better, the last flight is better than the one before."

After 6 months my 1st Treo 450v1." That heli seal the deal."

About a year or 2 I started Demo for xheli."

Good story isn't it.?

I motivated pilots whenever I tell them how my journey begins."

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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04-25-2016 11:15 AM  31 months agoPost 22
Heli_Splatter

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Time and determination... key components.

I was crashing my Blade 400 daily when I started. I would work for hours replacing parts only to crash again the next day. The guys at the hobby store started laughing at me. I got so discouraged that I quit flying helis and went to planes and the simulator. It took me a long time to get back in the rotatory rarefied air.

Then, all it took was a properly setup 450 and I was on my way. I think everyone here had their moments and doubt. I don't want to add to anyone's troubles getting started.

Give them time and properly setup heli and they will succeed. Swim, slither, crawl, walk, run, fly... don't give them a loaded gun.

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04-25-2016 02:47 PM  31 months agoPost 23
Richardmid1

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Leeds, England

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Set it up with as low head speed as possible, tell him to get a BIG training undercarriage and join a club.

60% of the time, it works every time!

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04-26-2016 12:44 PM  31 months agoPost 24
Jeff polisena

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westpalmbeachflorida usa

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Where does it say that if you setup a Heli you are responsible for it after you hand it to owner . If owner ask you to do it he must trust you or doesent know anything about what he's getting into . Set it up fly it to make sure it's safe , fly it with him showing him basic skills and done .
There are people that think that if they fly 10 times after you set up and they crash its someone else's fault but we all know the truth .

I stole it ,flew it and gave it back ;)

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04-26-2016 04:14 PM  31 months agoPost 25
Heli_Splatter

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Where does it say that I am responsible? It is common sense. Guy does not fly currently at all, hand him a loaded gun and go have fun?, when it hurts someone, it is my fault. It is as simple as that.

If I am on a jury, I would convict myself. I know what it takes. For you to say you have no liability is simply laughable. Your actions, or in-actions have consequences.
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04-26-2016 04:28 PM  31 months agoPost 26
jackp332

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Claremont, Nh USA

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True. People's grasp of self responsibility these days is laughable at best. Also, it has been my experience that after you perform such a service for someone you become their 24/7 call anytime day or night lifetime warranty service.

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04-26-2016 04:44 PM  31 months agoPost 27
artimus

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Buckley WA

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You gonna get all kinds of people wanting to fly helis and get too much too soon. After a few humbling crashes you start to thin the heard. Either you give up or get determined to learn to fly. Thats what happenen to me. I got piles of booms blades and landing gear that a testment to my determination to learn to fly....or my willingness not to give up. Thanks to all the guys that helped me along the way. Without their help I wouldnt be able to help someone out today. Ya get ya give....I help the new guys at the field but they have to understand I am there to fly my helis too.

Fly Hard......Team Viagra

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04-26-2016 05:15 PM  31 months agoPost 28
fastrc1

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I'm mystified by some of the statements here. "you all know what happened in Brooklyn" "I decided not to help him" Wowwwwwww. I guess promoting our sport may be off the table now when it comes to this whole thing that we do. I'm hard pressed to think that no one on this forum has ever asked for help in some form or fashion. But to each his own. I've built, setup and test flown many a copter for both customers and club members etc etc. Simple formula. I build it I test fly and trim it in front of you then I tell you and make you understand that you'll need help if i'm not the one that will help you afterwards. PC piloting is only good for a few things. A crash is an accident and unfortunately a crash involving bodily injury property damage or death is the same. I do not recall any models within the last 10-15 years that don't have the disclaimer somewhere in there. If a person chooses to disregard those warnings then shame on them. JMHO. Rock on Rockers. I cosign Artimus Statements

RIP Roman Pirozek Jr.
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Team Kontronik USA
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04-26-2016 05:23 PM  31 months agoPost 29
dkshema

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Cedar Rapids, IA

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Is the person who taught you to drive responsible for any traffic accidents you may have?

-----
Dave

* Making the World Better -- One Helicopter at a time! *

Team Heliproz

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04-26-2016 05:25 PM  31 months agoPost 30
fastrc1

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Planet Brooklyn, NY-USA

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Cosign Dave Cosign

RIP Roman Pirozek Jr.
Team Futaba USA
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http://flysrw.com

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04-26-2016 06:33 PM  31 months agoPost 31
S.Dykes

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Wesley Chapel, FL - USA

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I bought a gun and the dealer didn't care if I knew the first thing about how to or when to use it. I suppose he is gonna be responsible when I hurt someone with it. I better keep his name handy so I can tell on him when I shoot someone.

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04-26-2016 06:45 PM  31 months agoPost 32
fastrc1

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RIP Roman Pirozek Jr.
Team Futaba USA
Team Kontronik USA
http://flysrw.com

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04-26-2016 07:25 PM  31 months agoPost 33
rcflyerheli

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Granbury, TX USA

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If you do a proper setup and feel good enough about it to fly it yourself to test it, and if you take the time to properly demonstrate the heli to him, and to make him aware of the potential dangers of a 700 sized machine, the you have been reasonable in your actions.

This hobby requires some responsibility of the owner and flyer. You shouldn't feel responsible if there is a problem if you have done your part.

Logo 700, Specter 700, Goblin 700, Trex 700DFC, Gaui X7, Logo 690SX, Logo 600SX; Trex 470 Trex 500
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04-26-2016 11:39 PM  31 months agoPost 34
Heli_Splatter

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No Fastrc1, I am mystified by your careless total disregard for the safety of someone obviously way in over their head.

I will not sell an IROC Camero to a 16yo with only a learner's permit. I will not set up a 700 heli for someone who cannot fly a lick and does not want training. I will not teach someone to fly passenger jets that does not want to learn how to land.

I will set up his 700 helicopter if he agrees to meet me for a couple hours each day for a week or two to learn to fly it safely.

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04-26-2016 11:46 PM  31 months agoPost 35
Jeff polisena

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People need to know their ability level and if asking for help does not mean that responsibility falls on the person helping unless that person does something intentional , accidents do happen .
I've helped many people over 18 years in the hobby as well as doing it as a business . If I build a Heli and fly it making sure it's safe as well as educating the person I'm helping I've done my job . If that person decides to out fly his ability not in my presence after I've done all I can to explain the dangers then it not on me . We are not talking about helping or being a call away 24/7 also we are talking about adults that should be able to make the safe decisions .

I stole it ,flew it and gave it back ;)

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04-27-2016 12:27 AM  31 months agoPost 36
newbheliusr

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Personally, I wouldn't do it. I'd be afraid I would blame myself for his death if it hit him.

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04-27-2016 01:14 AM  31 months agoPost 37
fastrc1

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And here's where we differ. I'd rather set him up nice and advise him of the perils than to tell him he's on his own and wait for the 6 o'clock news. Unless he's 13 years old then I wouldn't be worrying so much. I've been in this game since 1977 and have seen all types of ish go wrong. If he's an adult then he can do his thing. You can't remotely use what happened in my club as an example. Number one you weren't there and number two you weren't @ the scene as I was and thirdly you did not examine the machine and electronics as I did either. Sooooo. It's your prerogative to do or not do as you wish. You're leading me to believe that you've never asked for help the entire time you've been in the game and it appears that you're more concerned with financial liability than anything else; but once again; what would I know? Rock on Rocker.

RIP Roman Pirozek Jr.
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04-27-2016 01:39 AM  30 months agoPost 38
newbheliusr

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wow, awesome opinion for not knowing me at all.

I'd be happy to help him set it up. But I am not going to set it up and go here, have fun dude.

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04-27-2016 01:43 AM  30 months agoPost 39
newbheliusr

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For the record I'm not afraid of being sued. I'm afraid of the guilt. I don't want to be responsible for killing someone.

Maybe you should try to get to know me before making snap judgments.

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04-27-2016 02:04 AM  30 months agoPost 40
ICUR1-2

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Responsibility aside I wouldn't want someone's death on my conscience either.
That being said It's up to you to use your own judgement.

spending time, paying attention

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