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04-22-2016 10:58 PM  31 months agoPost 401
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Yasuya) is good name
Was not the Galileans spoken name. Clown.

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04-22-2016 11:42 PM  31 months agoPost 402
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No idiots, there's a father and a son," what the hell would you know Evolutionist cult.?

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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04-22-2016 11:48 PM  31 months agoPost 403
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I'd say the first rule of debate is to know who you are answering. Especially if you are going to insult. I'm not esco.

But you're so busy spewing forth you didn't bother to see what George Washington and Abraham Lincoln said about the holiday of Thanksgiving. I'll paraphrase, since you aren't likely to want to do the legwork.

Anyway, the paraphrasing:

George Washington: "both Houses of Congress have by their joint Committee requested [him] 'to recommend to the People of the United States a day of public thanks-giving and prayer,'" formally declared November 26 to "be devoted by the People of these States to the service of that great and glorious Being, who is the beneficent Author of all the good that was, that is, or that will be."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natio...ng_Proclamation

And Abraham Lincoln: " I do therefore invite my fellow citizens in every part of the United States, and also those who are at sea and those who are sojourning in foreign lands, to set apart and observe the last Thursday of November next, as a day of Thanksgiving and Praise to our beneficent Father who dwelleth in the Heavens. And I recommend to them that while offering up the ascriptions justly due to Him for such singular deliverances and blessings,"

http://www.abrahamlincolnonline.org...ches/thanks.htm

Both paraphrased. And I only scratch the surface. There is PLENTY of evidence that Thanksgiving is indeed a religious observation. Your answers avoided the obvious: just who does one thank for a good harvest? Especially those as devout as the Puritans were.

If you wish to examine the information and inform yourself of the holiday's history, I've provided a start. Otherwise, go ahead and dogmatically ignore information that is not consistent with your held belief.

Hmm. Isn't that supposed to be the argument against "religious" and "dense" folks?

Might want to at least examine your position. It's funny how often atheists claim religion is dogmatic and close-minded, yet will make no attempt to consider or read information that may threaten their core beliefs. Pot meet kettle. As a scientist, you have an obligation to objectivity. Otherwise, your beliefs are no less dogmatic than anyone else's.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanksgiving_(United_States)

The evidence of thanking the Creator for blessings goes WAY back, and the holiday bears this.

Thanksgiving is religious.

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04-23-2016 12:07 AM  31 months agoPost 404
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Thanksgiving is religious.
If you had done better homework you would know it is debated on both sides.

"Religious" is not a settled conclusion.

Debate about first celebrations in the United States

The traditional representation of where the first Thanksgiving was held in the United States has often been a subject of boosterism and debate, though the debate is often confused by mixing up the ideas of a Thanksgiving holiday celebration and a Thanksgiving religious service. According to author James Baker, this debate is a "tempest in a beanpot" and "marvelous nonsense".[8]

Local boosters in Virginia, Florida, and Texas promote their own colonists, who (like many people getting off a boat) gave thanks for setting foot again on dry land. (Jeremy Bangs[10])

These claims include an earlier religious service by Spanish explorers in Texas at San Elizario in 1598, as well as thanksgiving feasts in the Virginia Colony.[20] Robyn Gioia and Michael Gannon of the University of Florida argue that the earliest Thanksgiving service in what is now the United States was celebrated by the Spanish on September 8, 1565, in what is now Saint Augustine, Florida.[21][22] A day for Thanksgiving services was codified in the founding charter of Berkeley Hundred in Charles City County, Virginia in 1619.[23]

According to Baker, "Historically, none of these had any influence over the evolution of the modern United States holiday. The American holiday's true origin was the New England Calvinist Thanksgiving. Never coupled with a Sabbath meeting, the Puritan observances were special days set aside during the week for thanksgiving and praise in response to God's providence."[8]

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04-23-2016 12:09 AM  31 months agoPost 405
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HA HA

The clowns don't even know Jesus real name LOL

Granite headed dullards

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04-23-2016 12:11 AM  31 months agoPost 406
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WIKI:
Setting aside time to give thanks for one's blessings, along with holding feasts to celebrate a harvest, are both practices that long predate the European settlement of North America. According to historian James Baker, debates over where any "first Thanksgiving" took place on modern American territory are a "tempest in a beanpot".[8]
The only tempest is when the "first Thanksgiving" was. The idea of thanking the Creator for a good harvest are ancient. The tempest in a beanpot is not over whether people are thanking God, but when the first observance was. Take stuff out of context why dontcha?

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04-23-2016 12:13 AM  31 months agoPost 407
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Man you just can't see what you don't want to:

From your post:
These claims include an earlier religious service by Spanish explorers in Texas at San Elizario in 1598, as well as thanksgiving feasts in the Virginia Colony.[20] Robyn Gioia and Michael Gannon of the University of Florida argue that the earliest Thanksgiving service in what is now the United States was celebrated by the Spanish on September 8, 1565, in what is now Saint Augustine, Florida.[21][22] A day for Thanksgiving services was codified in the founding charter of Berkeley Hundred in Charles City County, Virginia in 1619.[23]
Look how many times "Thanksgiving Services" shows up in what YOU SENT to refute that Thanksgiving is religious. Service. Look up that word's meaning in context, and it's religious.

You really don't see your own bias?

Again, your post:
Puritan observances were special days set aside during the week for thanksgiving and praise in response to God's providence
How is setting aside a day to thank the Creator not religious?

And still no one is objectively answering the question, to Whom is one giving Thanks to on Thanksgiving?

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04-23-2016 12:29 AM  31 months agoPost 408
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The only tempest is when the "first Thanksgiving" was. Take stuff out of context why dontcha?
I'm just telling you it is debated. I was not refuting anything, please do not assume with me, and I will treat you the same.

How the first one went down which was religious ish in nature while under European control, and how the USA instituted the holiday is a few different things here.

What did these early people celebrate that was not religious? They lived the theology in every action they made.

But remember, we became a country based on religious freedom, which also includes freedom from it. And our Thanksgiving is not religious in any way unless you make it such on a personal level.

Americans commonly trace the Thanksgiving holiday to a 1621 celebration at the Plymouth Plantation, where the settlers held a harvest feast after a successful growing season. Autumn or early winter feasts continued sporadically in later years, first as an impromptu religious observance, and later as a civil tradition.

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04-23-2016 12:30 AM  31 months agoPost 409
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Aeron29 I got you bro,
requested [him] 'to recommend to the People of the United States a day of public thanks-giving and prayer,'" formally declared November 26 to "be devoted by the People of these States to the service of that great and glorious Being, who is the beneficent Author of all the good that was, that is, or that will be."
I said splendidly, I didn't draw out the words to show if it was religious or none religious," clearly I want to know if these Evolutionist cult
Give thank for anything."

Who do they tell thank to.? That what I wanted to find out," the majority of Americans thank the Almighty for his continuous, blessing so they are
Being bless and be able to give."

Maybe the holidays wasn't design for religious,"but its is what it'says now."

These guys would not view it as Religious because they can't thank a man that they don't believed exist." Or worst made heaven and earths."

This's why we have big problem in this country because we're devided, by politics and religion,
I am telling you these cult are winnings, for once they get the pass to convinced the vase majority of people that there is no GOD, and we just happen
To be here, by (Biological chemistry mistake ),"

The next few years from now the words will lead to lawsless inhabitants. "

We see the same things happen when the children's of Israel make themselves the IDOL, after they're convince by peoples like madhouse that Moses was
Dead while he went to get the writing on the stone]"

Evolutionists are dangerous sect." They have a Satanic syndrome." That can't be corrected."

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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04-23-2016 12:34 AM  31 months agoPost 410
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And our Thanksgiving is not religious in any way unless you make it such on a personal level.
Neither is Christmas, or Easter, or Hanukah, or Passover, if you just ignore the obvious origins and treat these days as days to gather family for good food.

Thanksgiving may have morphed into a day off to get fat, but that is NOT it's origin, and you'd be specious to suggest otherwise.

Just the title "Thanksgiving" absolutely reveals the original purpose, if one examines it objectively.

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04-23-2016 12:35 AM  31 months agoPost 411
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The next few years from now the words will lead to lawsless inhabitants
Sadly True in black communities now let alone in the next few years.

example chiraq

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04-23-2016 12:40 AM  31 months agoPost 412
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Neither is Christmas, or Easter, or Hanukah, or Passover, if you just ignore the obvious origins and treat these days as days to gather family for good food.
Those are all squarely religious holidays. Despite many ignoring the religious aspect.

Thanksgiving become a civil tradition, a long time ago.

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04-23-2016 01:33 AM  31 months agoPost 413
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Sadly True in black communities now let alone in the next few years.
example chiraq
"You now turn to racism, you're truly what you are madhouse) a Evolutionists cult)." Darwin is taking your soul to hell I promise you that unless you change, "just incase you don't know," Evolutionists is responsible for some of the worlds darkest problems."
Did you know that the teaching of Evolution is linked to racism? If you don't believe it, please know that the ful title of Charles Darwin's book "On the Origin of Species" is, "On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life" Reference here is a link for you madhouse, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_Species Evolution is also the cornerstone for Communism and Nazism and the justification of such evils as genocide."

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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04-23-2016 02:20 AM  31 months agoPost 414
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You guy's keep spending all your calories putting them in his POOP Depository.

What he want's -

ESCO CLOSE THE THREAD - START a NEW ONE and LOCK Him in the OUT HOUSE

Mr Worm WOOD / Mr Screw TAPE

While that's being done : I will finish the HEX and Spell's and special Incantations : He's WACKED

I'm putting on all his Light Bulb's - Keep Him in the DARK

He will go thru a Dozen a week Run round in circles

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04-23-2016 03:50 AM  31 months agoPost 415
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yes yes, LOCK Him in the OUT HOUSE,, and make that a Co-Tranny Outhouse

Jim
Buzz Buzz Buzz

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04-23-2016 04:18 AM  31 months agoPost 416
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It is a clown show!

But evolution is fact and will be fact tomorrow and those who refuse education are disappearing daily, replaced by the young minds I shape who do not have a problem communicating like adults.

Not you.

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04-23-2016 04:18 AM  31 months agoPost 417
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Probably one of the VERY best pieces of Literature One can ever own are the writings of :

C.S. LEWIS : Known as the Screw Tape Diaries or ANY of his work :

Almost a Must Have - Their Very Famous

Essentially : It is a running narrative Between :

Mr. Screw Tape and Mr. Worm Wood on HOW to defeat and consume a Young believer in their infant stage walk.

Literally run em round on a defensive measure with out ever turning to actual scripture for which their is no defense. Really None if you know a bit - THEN IT GET's BETTER !!

One advantage ? He will get you in shape and bring you to a realization as what his game is.

Kinda fun if you like chasing a CRAZY Mouse. Get's Boring - Like a CAT Toy the Cat no longer plays with. CAT get Bored : He goes and Finds another Cat

He's Even Not Even in OUR Sport

He HAS a valid reason for it AND HE Knows why also : VERY SAD

Just PRAY FOR HIM Their are LEVEL's Too !

Spend a Few Bucks and go to a Book store and ask - Think the paper back collection probably less than $20.00

THEN GO TO The Book and find your confirmations: VERY GOOD READING

Pretty good High Octane Stuff

C.S. Lewis's work is VERY GOOD !

Wonder How them Light Bulb's are doing ??

HERE : Kitty Purry

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04-23-2016 05:38 AM  31 months agoPost 418
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Lewis did not invent this argument, but developed and popularized it – although it is sometimes referred to as "Lewis's trilemma". It has been used by Christian apologist Josh McDowell in his book More Than a Carpenter (McDowell 2001). It has been widely repeated in Christian apologetic literature, but largely ignored by professional theologians and biblical scholars.[79]

Lewis's Christian apologetics, and this argument in particular, have been criticised. Philosopher John Beversluis described Lewis's arguments as "textually careless and theologically unreliable,"[80] and this particular argument as logically unsound and an example of false dilemma.[81] Theologian John Hick argues that New Testament scholars do not now support the view that Jesus claimed to be God.[82] New Testament scholar N. T. Wright criticises Lewis for failing to recognise the significance of Jesus' Jewish identity and setting – an oversight which "at best, drastically short-circuits the argument" and which lays Lewis open to criticism that his argument "doesn't work as history, and it backfires dangerously when historical critics question his reading of the gospels," although he believes this "doesn't undermine the eventual claim."[83]

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04-23-2016 07:00 AM  31 months agoPost 419
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Ah yes, the old argument "Jesus never said He was God"

...that point has been unsuccessfully argued since before the Nicea council...but it doesn't take a panel of experts brought together two hundred years after the fact to see Jesus' divinity. You just need to read the NT as written...

Check it out sometime.

First, there are multiple accounts in the NT where Jesus accepts worship from individuals.

Second, He says multiple times that He is divine. John 10:30, He says, "I and my Father are one." and, in John 14:9, "He who has seen me has seen the Father."

And in John 1:1, it was written: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

And most infamously, in John 8:58 He says "Verily, verily, I say unto you, before Abraham was, I AM."

It could not be more clear what he claimed. There is only ONE "I AM."

All this hundreds of years before any council supposedly establishing his divinity.

So you see, the concept of Trinity predated the Council of Nicea by centuries. It is not a later dogma impressed upon reality. It was right there at the start. Jesus claimed His divinity with His own mouth.

Jesus said it, and you have to either call him Lord, Liar, or Lunatic for it. I choose the former based on the fulfillment of the ancient promise given to Abraham, Israel, and the prophets, plus the perfect life He led. This was no man. This was God.

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Please also beware You dont need t be a scholar of Historical Antiquity - vetted from OUT Side source . FROM the actual time period - to Have THE BLESSING of CHRIST.

The sources they fall upon are MODERN source { Not from independent source gathered at real time ) They obtain it from { Like In Kind " of MODERN MAn. )

Big issue is MAN is LAZY - HAS NO FOCUS - Takes EFFORT.

You may find ONE NAME - Then go searching in records of Antiquity from OTHER venues of the EXACT time period.

His JOB is to OVER WRITE and change FAct and to destroy because of some personal hatefull reason. Then spend years reinforcing it - SAD

But here is some fun : Many lists of the so called medical miracles.

Almost in every case : SAY's Don't tell anybody - WHY ???????
a neubie will immediatley say - HE JESUS Knew people would not keep their mouth shut and it would spread his Ministry.

It's wrong - He did NOT want a Medical Ministry - KNOWING that is all he would get roped into performing and exhaust his limited time line for which he knew in advance. He KNEW !

Has all ready boasted on the effect he has had on youth - to turn them away from Blessings and Salvation - Redemption.

Manufactures WREAKAGE

Then we ask what is occurring in the United States - EVIDENCE of our NATION : BEHAVIOR : It's worse in EUROPE - Their history is AUSOME !

Knowing the Kinsman Redeemer of Christ. LOVE & OBEY

It was meant to be elementary SIMPLE _ But one MUST have the HEART of CHRIST - Then Begin a Wonderful Journey.

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