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03-22-2016 05:33 PM  27 months agoPost 1
helibill

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2013 Ford Focus. It started making this noise periodically at idle after the clutch was replaced.

What is this noise?

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This is the noise my car makes periodically after Performance Ford Windsor replaced the clutch on February 2, 2016.

This is what I hear inside the car.

It never once made this noise before the car was worked on. It was taken back to Performance Ford on February 17, 2016 because the car makes unusual exhaust noises around 1500 RPM and this ticking noise. This ticking noise is not normal and only started after the clutch was replaced. The exhaust noise is also not normal but I will have to capture that in another video.

COMPLAINT
"REPORT ON RATTLING WHEN VEHICLE REACHES 1500 RPS AND TICKING WHEN THE VEHICLE IS TURNED OFF. CUSTOMER WAS JUST IN THIS MONTH AND HAD CLUTCH REPLACED PLEASE CHECK"

CORRECTION
"ROADTESTED VEHICLE. NO ABNORMAL SOUNDS HEARD WHILE DRIVING. CAN HEAR HIGH PRESSURE PUMP TICKING ONCE IN A WHILE WHICH IS A NORMAL OPERATION CHARACTERISTIC OF THE HIGH PRESSURE PUMP. ALSO THE TICKING NOISE WHEN THE VEHICLE IS TURNED OFF IS A NORMAL CHARACTERISTIC OF THE HIGH PRESSURE PUMP FINISHING ITS CYCLE. NO FAULTS FOUND AT THIS TIME"

I would have taken the car back again but I had to drive the car to Calgary for a new job.

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03-22-2016 09:07 PM  27 months agoPost 2
nitro fun

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Get a long screwdriver or a long prybar with a plastic handle and stick your ear on the handle and the other end on the motor in different places to hear where it is comming from....

You may have to check under the car while its on

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03-22-2016 10:51 PM  27 months agoPost 3
shawmcky

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Does this car have a dual mass flywheel,was it replaced when the clutch was out?

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03-22-2016 11:56 PM  27 months agoPost 4
balsabasher

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That sounds bad! I do not know what transmission or clutch you have but google 2012-2014 Ford Focus clutch/transmission!

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03-23-2016 07:08 AM  27 months agoPost 5
Machinehead01

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High speed click
Sounds like a noisy fuel injector or a short in one of the coil packs. Just my 2 cents.

Tom

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03-24-2016 12:37 AM  27 months agoPost 6
07sb

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Did a cover get left off from over the injectors? Sounds like injector noise to me..

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03-24-2016 02:05 AM  27 months agoPost 7
comet

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HelliBill
maybe you want to check that video out
hope this helps

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VT "slow&low"

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03-25-2016 04:03 AM  27 months agoPost 8
comet

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Watch at YouTube

cosworth engine
yes, we bought the Formula One Team

VT "slow&low"

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03-26-2016 07:24 PM  27 months agoPost 9
helibill

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I am not sure if it has a dual mass flywheel. I don't know much about car engines.

Yes, I know all about the transmission of these model of cars. My car is most definitely a lemon. It has the worst driving transmission I have ever seen.

I bought the car in London and had it back in the shop at least three times for transmission issues. I had it in the shop in Thunder Bay for the same issue multiple times. It has been into the Windsor shop twice. Now I am in Calgary and will take it in when I have time.

Ford is pretty good at lying to me. They told me in London that I need to drive the car more aggressively and it will shift smoother then. Are you kidding me?

Also, London didn't put my engine back together properly so it had an exhaust issue for 7 months. Thunder Bay didn't have any better luck. They put my engine back together improperly as well as they used the wrong bolts so the engine was banging against the frame.

Now my car makes weird exhaust noises after Windsor worked on it. This is the same noise that London caused before. It also makes this new noise as seen in the video. To me, it is unacceptable that they cannot put my engine back together properly after they work on it.

Windsor was straight up with me and said all the other dealers were lying to me. She said the car will never run the way I want it and the transmissions are faulty. There are huge class action lawsuits in the U.S. and Canada for this issue.

I emailed the video to Windsor and they have not responded to it in days.

Thanks for the suggestions. I will get a friend to help me dig into this further when I can. It is an intermittent problem and hasn't been too bad the last couple of days.

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WTS 2013 Ford Focus - Drives like new, mint condition (technically they are supposed to drive like **** so I'm not lying)

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03-27-2016 01:15 AM  27 months agoPost 10
gologo

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Is this an automatic...I thought from reading your first post that it was
a manual??

If automatic, yeah

My inlaws bought a '13 last year, then we started researching what they
were experiencing, lurching, jerking, hard shifts, etc. Their dealer told
them the same thing, "Just drive it more aggressively, that is what it likes", and straight up told them there was nothing wrong w. the car, that
is all normal!!!

Less than 3 weeks later they traded it in for a Corolla......they could not
be happier!

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03-27-2016 02:08 AM  27 months agoPost 11
helibill

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Yes, it is automatic.

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03-27-2016 04:42 AM  27 months agoPost 12
TruckRacer

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So what you actually have is the Ford Power Shift DCT transmission that is actually a computer shifted, manual transmission? Until this thread, I didn't know such a thing existed but after studying them, I'm pretty sure I don't want one in any vehicle I own.

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03-27-2016 07:40 AM  27 months agoPost 13
shawmcky

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And this is progress,what could possibly go wrong?Guinea pig transmission!

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03-27-2016 05:54 PM  27 months agoPost 14
Crashr30

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The noise sounds to be to be the direct injection fuel pump.

I am not familiar with this particular engine so I had to google and see if it was direct injected gasoline and what I have found is that it is direct injected.

So the car has 2 fuel pumps. The one in the tank is low pressure and gets fuel to the engine. The one in the engine compartment is very high pressure to the injectors. Other direct injected engines I am familiar with make this type of noise. Either there is an insulating cover that has been left off or the pump is excessively noisey. Most companies put insulation over these pumps as the pumps are very loud even when operating correctly. The produce over 1500 PSI for the injectors. They are a mechanical style pump.

AS for the trans issues, well the dealers aren't lying when they say drive it hard. This is a manual transmission being controlled by a computer. It is not an automatic. However it has been programmed to try and behave like an automatic. So when you drive think like driving a manual. When you creep along in traffic you would be slipping the clutch to do it. Pulling up a steep driveway very slowly, you slip the clutch. All that puts hot spots in the flywheel and then you get chatter out of it eventually. When you screw up a shift in a manual trans decelerating, you would get a lunge or a lurch. You get the same sort of effect when you just lift off of the gas like you would an automatic. It is all because it is a manual trans. If you drive it like you stole it the clutch will last a long time. Mostly because you slip the clutch a lot less. Everything we complain about on these trans in the USA, Europeans do not have a problem with as they are used to it AND they drive way more manual trans than we do. It is a difference in cultures vs. being a bad product. Does not mean it is a good product for the USA, just saying we are different from where this type of trans was developed. Other manufacturers have been through this as well with this type of trans.

Good luck, hope this helps.

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03-28-2016 02:09 AM  27 months agoPost 15
TruckRacer

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I had a conversation with a relative today regarding the newer MAC Trucks automated manual transmission they call mDRIVE. I don't know if it shares the same physical layout the Ford transmission has but it works the same. It has no clutch pedal and no shift lever and comes in several gear configurations up to 13 speeds forward and 2 reverse. MAC brags about increased efficiency and the fact the transmission weighs about 250 pounds less than the Allison true automatic it replaces. His company just bought several new semi tractors and he was telling me how hard the MAC transmission shifted compared to the Allison that is butter smooth. All computer controlled, he said the MAC trucks equipped with that transmission are in the shop constantly for upgrades and reprogramming. And this is progress?????

For not knowing this kind of transmission even existed a few days ago, I've learned way more about them than I ever wanted or needed to know. They are appearing in more kinds of vehicles than I expected.

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03-28-2016 06:33 AM  27 months agoPost 16
tadawson

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VW/Porsche/Audi (among others) have been doing the 'automated manual' for quite a while, and it's an evolution of race technology . . . they call it the DSG (Direct Shift Gearbox) - two shafts and dual clutch, odd's on one and evens on the other so zero flare, and tighter shifts than possible on a manual. Not comparing this to Ford (who could screw up an anvil . . .), but simply noting that the core tech is solid and works great if implemented properly.

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03-28-2016 08:05 AM  27 months agoPost 17
Lotus7

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Is the VW DSG a totally different concept and packaging when compared to the Ford DCT ?

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03-28-2016 05:47 PM  27 months agoPost 18
tadawson

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I can't really tell you . . . I avoid Ford much the same way I avoid Ebola . . . .

- Tim

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03-28-2016 06:34 PM  27 months agoPost 19
TruckRacer

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Maybe solid tech but the complexity of these things and the software it takes to control them does not pass the reasonableness test in my head.

Traditional manual and automatic transmissions are so well developed and with few exceptions, they are extremely reliable. These days, most vehicles will go to their junk yard graves one day with the original working transmissions.

Oh well ....

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03-28-2016 08:20 PM  27 months agoPost 20
RM3

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I agree...this is not progress... they are making reliable manual transmissions and reliable automatics, more complex by taking the mechanical controls and giving them to the computer....

my "old" car has a T-56 manual 6 speed...its 20 years old, and have NEVER had an issue with it...the engine its connected to, a 5.7L LT1 is equally robust...

I will never sell it, why? cause they work, I know how to wrench on it and fix it when in rare cases it did break.

every single time I took it to a repair shop when I had no other choice but to do so, they replaced the worn out parts with cheap imports that broke within a year, which I ended up replacing myself later with quality made in USA parts.

So I avoid the auto repair shops, they do a terrible job on any make and model and 3 times out of 4 lie about what needs to be done for the purpose of racking up the bill.

finding an honest mechanic is akin to finding the perfect wife...

the best car to own...a classic with a 350 chevy, manual tranny, with a carb and no computer running anything.

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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