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03-22-2016 02:23 PM  3 years ago
newbheliusr

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Wow, what a concept. Maybe we should have been doing this the whole time their people were here. I personally don't see it working. The wall will cost so much that there will never be a way to recoup that money, ever.

As far as bringing manufacturing back to the US. Well my friend, we have got use to low prices on things, or high profits if you own the company. There is no way manufacturing will come back here. Made in the USA is dead because we want to much money. We don't work for cheap. Besides, they'll just send manufacturing to another cheap country.
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03-22-2016 02:27 PM  3 years ago
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like I said, cut off their foreign aid til it's paid for. But then, that begs the question... why are we giving them a single penny in the first place.
There's lot of way to skin a cat. The problem is, we don't even try, and instead, we FEED the cat til it's too fat to move.
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03-22-2016 02:29 PM  3 years ago
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The wall will cost so much that there will never be a way to recoup that money, ever.
That is exactly the type of thinking that has kept us from building a wall. And, the illegals keep pouring over the border to strip our wealth from us and send it outside the country to the tune of well in excess of $50 billion per year in payments earned here and sent to family members in Mexico and trade deficits.

That frickin wall will not cost even close to that much.
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03-22-2016 03:11 PM  3 years ago
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We aren't china, and this isn't the 3rd century. We aren't going to build a wall between us and Mexico. get real.

We aren't going to deport a bunch of people who do work we are too lazy to do. Wake up and smell the coffee. I fly near farming fields, not one white person out there. And I am betting a good percentage of those are illegal that are there. so we are just going to get rid of these people? Hope you don't mind not having fruit and vegetables, your lawns mowed, and a bunch of other stuff
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03-22-2016 03:20 PM  3 years ago
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We aren't china, and this isn't the 3rd century. We aren't going to build a wall between us and Mexico. get real.
If that is your prediction, then fine.

I happen to believe there is a good chance it will get done.
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03-22-2016 03:24 PM  3 years ago
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I believe Berlin had a wall, and that wasn't effective either. You build a 30ft wall all you do is make a market for 30ft ladders.
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03-22-2016 03:32 PM  3 years ago
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With the technology we have today, we can build a wall that could have sensors all along its length to detect anything and anyone attempting to go over the top or tunnel underneath.

That wall will be the single largest sign of "no trespassing" that has ever been built. It would save the USA billions upon billions of honest, hard working Americans hard earned tax dollars paid out in entitlements stolen from us by invaders from a foreign land and promoted by its own leaders.

If they are so good for the American economy as some claim they are, then force them to stay home and be good for their own frickin economy. It's not our responsibility to support the citizens of a foreign land. We have to look out for our own.

Again, it's not rocket science.
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03-22-2016 03:34 PM  3 years ago
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I'd bet you right now this doesn't happen. Sensors indeed. Who maintains this wall? Who pays to maintain it? This is not going to happen. Having sensors would indicate we would have the man power to get to where there is an incursion and deal with it. We can't even do that now.

I never said they were good for the economy. I'm saying there are jobs here WE won't do, but we expect them done.
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03-22-2016 03:47 PM  3 years ago
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I believe Berlin had a wall, and that wasn't effective either. You build a 30ft wall all you do is make a market for 30ft ladders.
The Berlin Wall was made to keep people IN. Big difference.
As far as the illegals, I would agree. It's really not an option to ship them all out. But we could start with this: if you break a law and we catch you... instant deportation. It's the least we can do. Deport the criminals. For those that stay, set up something o they come out of the shadows and get a work visa. But at the same time, we have to do something to keep more from coming, hence the wall. Not to mention, we have no clue who's coming across. How hard do you think it is for a jihadi to fly into Mexico and walk across the border??
Bottom line is, we have to do something. More and more will keep coming here because we keep giving them more and more incentive to do so. Build a wall, towers at reasonable intervals, build some military bases and bring some troops home and post them there. Green light shooting. You won't have to shoot too many for them to get the point.
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03-22-2016 04:37 PM  3 years ago
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I never said they were good for the economy. I'm saying there are jobs here WE won't do, but we expect them done
That is somewhat true. But, when those jobs are filled and they keep coming in, they live on entitlements that are tax dollars. Billions of tax dollars. Some of those tax dollars are sent right back to Mexico to their families.

Some of their women get pregnant then come across the border to give birth to a so called US citizen. Then, we have to support that entire family, including free health care for life. Some claim it's a constitutional right that anyone born on US soil is automatically a US citizen. Not true. The constitution does not give illegals that right and was never intended to do so. Some of the border states have already made the anchor baby business illegal. Trump says he will stop it nation wide.

That **** needs to stop.

We have developed a system where illegals have more rights to our entitlement system than our own citizens.
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03-22-2016 05:03 PM  3 years ago
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yep....set a time frame to get a work visa. Don't get one and you get pulled over?? You're outta here. Deported alongside all of them sitting in jails right now. What's more?? Tattoo them when you deport them. No second chances. Get legal now, or you're in deep doo doo.
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03-22-2016 05:10 PM  3 years ago
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you dont need a wall...

Groom Lake, (AKA area 51) just has signs up and gives a fair warning... you dont see wackos trying to get in there.

cross this line and you WILL be shot...

no wall needed, just a few illegals to be made an example of and some well armed guards, problem solved
showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...
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03-22-2016 06:01 PM  3 years ago
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Remember back in the day when Israel was getting hit regularly with bus bombings? It was really nasty. Scores of totally innocent Israeli men, women and children were brutally killed.

That stopped.

Guess why?

Israel built a giant wall to keep the terrorists out of those areas. That sucker is made of stone and is at least 30 feet high.

Guess what?

It worked. The bus bombings stopped almost immediately when that wall was completed.

Guess who paid the highest price to build that wall.

The Palestinians terrorists and the Palestinian people did.

Why?

Because they could no longer get to the areas where there was employment to get money to feed their families. There was now a big wall in the way.
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03-22-2016 07:54 PM  3 years ago
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Whether a wall is meant to keep people in, or out, it's the same thing. There will not be a wall, and for those of you thinking there will be, you're dreaming. We can't even build a dam without environmentalist going crazy, and you want a wall? Good luck

But they didn't PAY for the wall did they. They just got screwed because of it. Blood from a turnip man...........

BTW, Israel is nothing more than a country of terrorists too. They cause their own problems over there. Israel would like nothing more for the US to take out Iran.
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03-22-2016 08:03 PM  3 years ago
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Honestly, the one of the biggest wastes of money has been the "war on terror". You might as well have a war on dandruff or erectile dysfunction. This burns more money, than any one thing. How long has this war went on? Since 2003? So 13 years of war on terror. And it's done so well, there no more terrorist bombings, the world is at peace. What a load of crap. We think we have the right to tell everyone how to live. We have our own problems here, we need to fix that first. I am sure most will say the wall will create jobs. You do realize, that 90% of what these morons say to get elected don't happen. If you really think Trump can build a wall. Get real.
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03-23-2016 07:29 AM  3 years ago
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The stupid it hurts. Im really impressed with your guys patience. Id just slap the ****out of this douche bag and move on.
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03-23-2016 08:19 AM  3 years ago
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The stupid it hurts????????? What may I ask does that mean? You want a slapfight?
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03-23-2016 10:16 AM  3 years ago
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I doubt he would slap anyone. He's just some goof that talks in anonymity. No pictures of himself on this site so he feels safe. Keyboard Tough Guy.........I made a mistake once, but I was wrong?
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03-23-2016 10:37 AM  3 years ago
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If Drumpf was elected, he is not King. He would still have to get the bill through the house and the senate. Even with s republican majority it would never get through especially when the establishment republicans hate Drumpf and they're the ones With the votes he would need.
It's not gonna happen. Period
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03-23-2016 11:23 AM  3 years ago
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BTW, Israel is nothing more than a country of terrorists too.
Such complete nonsense.
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