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02-22-2016 04:00 PM  33 months agoPost 1
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This happened late yesterday afternoon. My buddy in St. Augustine was charging his Pulse 2200 batteries. He lost all of his RC toys, several helis, Goblins, several drones including the Inspire and everything else that was in his garage. I'll speak with him later today and get more details. I do know that he did not use any type of protective devise to charge the batteries in. I know I will make sure I am much more careful from now on, I hope everyone else is super careful as well.

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02-22-2016 04:42 PM  33 months agoPost 2
jschenck

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Oh man that looks bad - hope nobody got hurt. Another lesson for us to heed.

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02-22-2016 04:51 PM  33 months agoPost 3
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Just spoke to Norm. He was home when it caught fire. He did have it on a metal charging plate. It didn't help, it just turned black. He said his fire extinguisher did not help at all either. Nothing he did could stop the flames. Fortunately the fire department was there in 3-4 minutes, but a ton of damage was already done. He only burnt his thumb, no one was hurt thank goodness. He's looking for a place to live for a couple of months now. The firewall kept the fire contained to the garage but smoke got into and damaged everything in the house from the roof.

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02-22-2016 04:53 PM  33 months agoPost 4
MattJen

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feel that guys pain..

same thing happened to me last year, I lost everything, mine was in a shed not as big as that event. but still costly to me..

was just a moment of being sidetracked and forgetful.. I have never recovered since as 2 of the models were one off's .

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02-22-2016 04:58 PM  33 months agoPost 5
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I'd really be interested in hearing the root cause of why this happened. Makes me want to sell off all my Lipo stuff and go back to nitro. I have waaaay too many of these things all over my house

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02-22-2016 05:09 PM  33 months agoPost 6
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Matt, what brand battery caused your fire?

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02-22-2016 06:31 PM  33 months agoPost 7
MartyH

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These fires make me nervous about even storing hobby LiPo batteries in the house much less charging them. I do store them in a shed once it's above freezing. I ONLY charge LiPo's outside on my airplane starting table.

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02-22-2016 06:38 PM  33 months agoPost 8
ssmith512

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Wow. That is scary. So glad no one was hurt.

Be very interested in knowing what charger / power supply setup he was using.

Steve

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02-22-2016 06:47 PM  33 months agoPost 9
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I have been using sand for years after I saw a video testing many methods of containing a exploding lipo and cheap and simple bag of sand works incredibly well. Here is a great high quality video of it in action. I put my lipos in old ammo cans and bags of sand of bottom and on top of them. Lipos are no joke.

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and if you think that a lipo can go off only when being used, think again. Here is a video of a lipo going off just sitting on the bench.

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02-22-2016 07:30 PM  33 months agoPost 10
Ace Dude

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The sand works well, but cannot prevent smoke damage. I charge outdoors and at the field whenever possible.

  

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02-22-2016 08:11 PM  33 months agoPost 11
wrongler

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Very sorry to hear of or see such a disaster! Glad to hear no one was hurt.

Wonder if the lipo is question was ever in a crash?

How long was it on the charger?

As mentioned earlier, what power supply and charger?

What rate was it charging at?

Hope they find out the cause.

Bill Whittaker

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02-22-2016 09:28 PM  33 months agoPost 12
BarracudaHockey

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Yikes, that sux

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02-22-2016 09:57 PM  33 months agoPost 13
grim.the.grim

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Very very sorry to hear. Thank you for sharing and reminding us all that we always need to be careful and not to get careless at any moment with lipos.

I had not seen the sand idea. I always charge my batteries on a metal table inside of pyrex baking dishes. I will use the sand idea also form this point forward.

What about storage when not being monitored? I keep mine in a dorm refrigerator...can they really go off without being connected to anything as that second video suggests?

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02-22-2016 09:58 PM  33 months agoPost 14
TMoore

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Sorry to hear of the fire and hope that insurance takes care of it.

My next question is what charge rate was used and what chargers?

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02-22-2016 10:55 PM  33 months agoPost 15
Cra-Z-1

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Thank you for sharing and reminding us all that we always need to be careful and not to get careless at any moment with lipos.
Yea +1 on that.

I know I get very complacent with all the multitudes of batteries I have for everything..It becomes all to routine to hook something up..go off watch TV, take a shower...or whatever and never think anythign of it. I've charged thousands of times over the last few years without a single incident..but its just that ONE time that something goes wrong and it is a major disaster...and those were just 2200 mA packs.

Makes me terrified of all those 12s packs hanging around in storage. We have mild winters here, but in the summer its scorching outside and in my garage, so storage anywhere but in a controlled environment when its so hot, makes me worry much more. I like the refrigerator idea..maybe I can stuff one of those small office refrigerators somewhere in the corner of my room.
Here is a great high quality video of it in action.
Incredible videos btw...

Wonder what that crap does to your lungs when you inhale those chemicals

Those things really get violent when they go up in flames.

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02-23-2016 12:35 AM  33 months agoPost 16
Heli_Splatter

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The video that scares me the most is the DJI Drone battery going up sitting on the bench without being connected to anything. If they were not working, it could have burned the business to the ground.

I have ammo boxes for most of my batteries... I guess that I will be getting more of them. The sand idea is interesting... I was thinking of putting wire closet shelf above the battery charging area and then putting sand in a plastic bag on the shelf. Then if there is a fire, sand would drop down.

I have a generator, maybe I should do all charging at the flying site.

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02-23-2016 12:56 AM  33 months agoPost 17
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The video that scares me the most is the DJI Drone battery going up sitting on the bench without being connected to anything. If they were not working, it could have burned the business to the ground.
Yep,SPONTANEOUS!! That is what bugs me the most also. THAT, you cannot
control, makes ya want to take all the lipos out to the middle of the back
yard into a concrete bunker!

Have the ammo boxes been proven/confirmed to stop lipo fires right on the
spot (yeah I know, NOT the smoke), but do they truly hold up structurely,
during and afterward, even if there were multiple lipos going up back to back?

I have been using a couple of those small 'fire safes' for years, w. no
incidents of course, but just keep wondering if it is just false sense
of security???

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02-23-2016 01:02 AM  33 months agoPost 18
gologo

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And yes Nashville, thanks for posting that; and also interested in the whys' of the fire. We keep getting fresh 'wake-up calls' on these on a fairly regular basis!

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02-23-2016 01:38 AM  33 months agoPost 19
Steve_JR

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In regards to the DJI battery. The video says it was in from a customer and that it tested at 5 volts.

The Phantom's use 3s lipos, so testing at 5v means it was dead beyond repair. I am suspicious of this battery just going off like that. It was most likely either damaged or abused recently (hence the reason the customer sent it in for repair).

To this date I haven't heard of a lipo just spontaneously combusting that wasn't previously damaged in some fashion. Your well-maintained and proper-voltage lipos are just fine sitting there.

Steve - Mount Joy RC Club

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02-23-2016 01:57 AM  33 months agoPost 20
utahbob

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Yeah..me too
I been sorta keeping track over the years..seems like if one avoids overcharging; charging at the wrong rate; cell count etc.; doesen't overdischarge a pack and is vigilant with packs that might be in trouble (unbalanced; damaged in some way) and makes sure to store packs at storage voltage spotanious combustion doesn't happen..if anybody has had one go off with all factors in the "green" I'd sure like to hear about it.

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