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02-04-2016 11:46 PM  32 months agoPost 1
Zaneman007

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If you haven't read the new bill that the AMA pushed out in their most recent email... you need to. It applies to you:

Heres an excerpt:
§ 45503. Risk-based permitting of unmanned aircraft systems 
(a) IN GENERAL.—Not later than 120 days after 15  the date of enactment of this section, the Administrator of the Federal Aviation Administration shall establish procedures for issuing permits under this section with respect 18  to certain unmanned aircraft systems and operations thereof. ‘‘(b) PERMITTING STANDARDS.—Upon the submission of an application in accordance with subsection (d), the Administrator shall issue a permit with respect to the proposed operation of an unmanned aircraft system if the Administrator determines that posed operation achieve a level of safety that is equivalent to— ....
This is what our AMA dues are getting us.

This bill also revokes the FMRA Act of 2012?

It does replace the language, but its ugly. It is giving the FAA's "guidelines" the power of the law.

Please write the AMA. This is getting ugly. I don't know if I'm going to renew my dues. IMO the AMA has gone off the reservation.

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02-04-2016 11:51 PM  32 months agoPost 2
dkshema

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Read the bill. I don't believe it does what you said. The exemption for model aircraft, continuing the language of Public Law 112-95 section 336 remains in this bill. Start reading around page 212 of the bill, and pay close attention to what is said regarding the special rule for model aircraft.

AMA is working with the sponsors of this new bill to improve the language. Instead of simply bashing them, why not join in and help them.

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02-05-2016 12:14 AM  32 months agoPost 3
Zaneman007

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Yea, you are correct they revoke then repeat the FMRA Act of 2012 sec. 336 into this bill...

But then they add language.... which renders it meaningless.
Notwithstanding any other provision of law relating to the incorporation of unmanned aircraft systems into Federal Aviation Administration plans and policies, including this subtitle
Have your read the Title 49 - transportation sub-section 40102? Where they define aircraft as basically anything that flies, because that is the definition of aircraft in this document. It does not carve out models.

They also refer to Unmanned Aircraft Systems (UAS), and small unmanned aircraft systems. What do you think they are talking about?

If you take some time and go through this bill, it makes the FAA's regulation of aircraft models LAW. If gives them the power to permit, fine and make rules with the guidance of a "non-profit organization" who's purpose is to promote the safety and use of model aircraft.

That reads to me like not only registration, but permitting, and required fees to the AMA.

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02-05-2016 01:44 AM  32 months agoPost 4
dkshema

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The AMA clearly stated they are working with Mr Shuster and others to address the language and shortcomings. Continue to write AMA, continue to write your own congressman/senator.

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02-05-2016 10:54 PM  31 months agoPost 5
AirWolfRC

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What do you mean "renders it meaningless" ? ?

It says
‘‘§ 45507. Special rules for model aircraft
22 ‘‘(a) IN GENERAL.—Notwithstanding any other pro-
23 vision of law relating to the incorporation of unmanned
24 aircraft systems into Federal Aviation Administration
25 plans and policies, including this subtitle, the Adminis-
1 trator of the Federal Aviation Administration may not
2 promulgate any rule or regulation regarding a model air-
3 craft, or an aircraft being developed as a model aircraft,
4 if—
That means other parts of the law are "not with standing" . . . means other parts don't apply . . .

Why is this a separate thread ? ?

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02-06-2016 01:11 AM  31 months agoPost 6
RM3

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all of this BS from all sides means absolutely nothing...

the facts will play out after Feb 19th when the FAA decides to try to nail someone to the wall for simply flying without registration... then we will all see who has the bigger balls...the FAA or the congress.

my money is on the FAA.

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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02-06-2016 12:24 PM  31 months agoPost 7
EEngineer

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The AMA, like the FAA, has no power to "create" Federal Law....or any "Law" for that matter.

Only Congress has that power....and only if such Law is ruled constitutional.

We do have a Constitution don't we?.....LOL

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02-06-2016 01:29 PM  31 months agoPost 8
RM3

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We do have a Constitution don't we?
yeah? So what...there are volumes of books written with factual court cases were the Constitution and Bill of Rights of the common man were trampled over by either the government or by a rich individual in search of money, power, or to shut someone up.

The Constitution and Bill of Rights take a back seat to money and power.

Hell the only reason we still have the right to keep and bear arms to some extent is cause the NRA and gun makers make alot of money and payoff politicians in the process.

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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02-06-2016 01:43 PM  31 months agoPost 9
GREYEAGLE

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Huge difference between the right's and civil liberties entitled to the citizen - and - the safety/ security/protection of the public:

Tossing banker box's of paper and rhetoric argument is mute. It's a Greater Good issue and Terrorism. Besides a direct violation of the 4th amendment -or the Theft of it.

Pride / Selfishness /Materialism seems to overtake - the "Non Thinker" do to the veil of SELF.

They have not been paying attention or in focus.

All they would have had to do is to tell the TRUTH - That simple.

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