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02-02-2016 09:33 PM  30 months agoPost 1
Aaron29

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Very glad to see this:
AMA leaders advocate for model aviation

A dozen AMA members, staffers, and Executive Council members descended upon Washington, D.C., on January 27 and 28 to advocate for the protection and enhancement of the Special Rule for Model Aircraft. While there, AMA representatives had the opportunity to meet with members of Congress and their staffs. Read about the visit and how AMA is working to protect the hobby from overbearing regulations.
Got this email today. Keep it up, AMA. Stay in the game.

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02-02-2016 11:15 PM  30 months agoPost 2
RM3

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A dozen AMA members, staffers, and Executive Council members descended upon Washington
wow...talk a bout a Mob... 12 people...total...yeah AMA is a force to be reckoned with.

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02-02-2016 11:27 PM  30 months agoPost 3
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I am actually very proud to be an AMA member. I am also very glad they seem to be doing something, or trying to.

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02-03-2016 12:04 AM  30 months agoPost 4
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I believe that they are trying to make us all think they are trying to do something. I believe that they are rolling over and laughing all the way to the bank with our dues. seems fishy that dues went up by a huge margin this year right before this all went down. I will not be renewing when my AMA runs out next year.

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02-03-2016 12:13 AM  30 months agoPost 5
newbheliusr

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I guess they could be doing that. I guess one never knows unless they go and sit in. But I would like to think they are not doing that. But sadly, you are probably right.

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02-03-2016 01:09 AM  30 months agoPost 6
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I've always thought the AMA is kinda fighting the wrong battle.

There's AMA members (like me, and most of us likely) and they do great protecting, educating, and at least idiot proofing us...

The folks they don't protect, educate, or really do anything for, is the non-AMA members. Problem is that's why the FAA has to step in.

I don't think the AMA will ever see itself needing to help the masses, I think they see trying to convince the masses to go AMA. There's a difference, and the FAA won't relax squat (and honestly as much as it pains me to admit, it probably shouldn't) until someone is tasked with educating the population of RC flyers not spending $75 on a year of AMA.

Hope that makes sense.

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02-03-2016 02:23 AM  30 months agoPost 7
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THE AMA GOES TO WASHINGTON: When it comes to organizations lobbying on the FAA reauthorization bill, there may be no group more unlikely than the Academy of Model Aeronautics — an 80-year-old collection of hobbyists and weekend tinkerers that has suddenly found itself in the middle of a legislative maelstrom. This past week, the organization’s top dogs met in D.C. to push their legislative wish list: clarified procedures for notifying airports, protection of the personal and educational use of model aircrafts, and recognition of “community-based organizations” like the AMA that would allow members to bypass the official UAS registry process. They’ve sat down with Rep. Shuster: “We certainly have talked to him, and we offered suggested revisions. They have been receptive to the information,” said Rich Hanson, AMA’s government and regulatory affairs representative. But, he added, there’s been no indication of whether the suggestions were taken to heart: “The House side has been very closed"

http://www.politico.com/tipsheets/m...4#ixzz3z4AQMGNc

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02-03-2016 05:53 AM  30 months agoPost 8
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...But, he added, there’s been no indication of whether the suggestions were taken to heart:
you know that feeling when a job interview goes really bad and then they say they will call you with a closed lip squinty smile... thats the same crap.

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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02-04-2016 10:59 AM  29 months agoPost 9
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Did they perhaps invite and meet with Senator James Inhofe(R-OK)....who sponsored Sec. 336...which exempts RC hobbyist from FAA rules...and at this time is FEDERAL LAW?

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02-04-2016 12:42 PM  29 months agoPost 10
Ronald Thomas

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wow...talk a bout a Mob... 12 people...total...yeah AMA is a force to be reckoned with.
Were you there?

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02-04-2016 12:48 PM  29 months agoPost 11
rcmiket

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They "can't say too much" to anyone on just what was done or just what transpired during the " meetings". Same old song and dance from them. Still no word on just when flying can resume in the DC area but they are "working " on it but also can't tell us members just where they are on it. The AMA is nothing but empty promises but now at least I know why the were wanting us to sign up for a few years at the old price. Just how many would have renewed if they had known about all this before hand?

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02-04-2016 12:57 PM  29 months agoPost 12
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I think they are holding hands

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02-04-2016 01:17 PM  29 months agoPost 13
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I don't know about holding hands but the AMA has accomplished nothing in the way of helping us so what it all comes down to is that they are fairly useless, even though they did get us out of the mess about the frequencies a few years ago.....but that was the days of good government now we have a regime in there and America seems to like it.
Personally I can't wait for these 11 months to pass and then maybe we can get back to a saner government.

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02-04-2016 04:40 PM  29 months agoPost 14
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The FAA and the Legislature hold all the cards.

The AMA is a just a minor lobbyist/special interest group.

That being said, I believe that the AMA is trying their best to mold the FAA's opinion of the R/C modeler community. They just have a hard road to climb.

Hopefully in the end the FAA will be reined in by the Legislature and we in the R/C community will retain all of our original rights.

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02-04-2016 05:17 PM  29 months agoPost 15
rcmiket

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Yea tough road after all we only have 80 years of successful self regulation on our side. Seems like that would count for something but I guess not. I don't anticipate this going well for us down the road.

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02-04-2016 05:20 PM  29 months agoPost 16
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Well, I hope they come up with something. But I really have no plans to register, unless the field I fly at says I have to. Then, I will begrudgingly do it. I personally think the government knows enough. Besides, I fly a line of site aircraft. If you can't see it, you can't fly it. I'm not FPV or a non line of site aircraft. Those should have to register IMO

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02-04-2016 06:18 PM  29 months agoPost 17
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The AMA's role
I went to the AMA's Government Regulations Blog web site.

They visited with the Transportation and Infrastructure committee. Can someone explain that to me?

Per the Director of the AMA, they are taking legal action to change the FMRA Act of 2012. Even, I was confused by that email response.

I'm not sure what they are doing, but I have to agree with this post:
an 80-year-old collection of hobbyists and weekend tinkerers that has suddenly found itself in the middle of a legislative maelstrom.
I wrote the AMA, and let them know that I was not happy with their little field trips. It would appear as they're not sure which way to go. So they are making an appearance. They are wasting our dues to pay for meaningless trips. I truly feel, from reading their web site and email responses received from the director, that they are misguided and not working to get the FAA out of the Model Aircraft business as directed by congress in the FMRA Act of 2012 which is law.

If you are concerned, educate yourself then write the AMA. They need something to focus on, and I'm not talking selfies?

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02-04-2016 06:31 PM  29 months agoPost 18
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I personally think the AMA has met their match. As stated, a bunch of old hobbiest, not lobbyists. These folks are most certainly over their heads in dealing with people who talk out of both sides of their mouths.

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02-04-2016 10:58 PM  29 months agoPost 19
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Just got this from that AMA
Dear members,

Rep. Bill Shuster, who chairs the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee, introduced a new draft of the FAA reauthorization bill, titled the "Aviation Innovation, Reform, and Reauthorization (AIRR) Act." This bill is critical to preserving our voluntary, community-based approach to the model aviation community across the country.

While we are carefully reviewing the bill's language, it is important to note that the Committee recognized the community-based approach under the "Special Rule for Model Aircraft." The language in that section follows very similarly to Section 336 of the 2012 FAA reauthorization bill. We were also pleased to see that the new language recognizes the important role that model aircraft play in STEM education.

However, there are still some changes to the bill that could further strengthen and clarify the Special Rule for Model Aircraft. In the weeks ahead, we will be working closely with Chairman Shuster and the Committee on our suggested improvements.

We will keep you updated on this important bill and AMA's ongoing work to protect our hobby.

As always, thank you for your support of AMA.

Dave Mathewson
Executive Director
OK were happy about this but unhappy about that. Why not just tell us what were not happy about?

Mike

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02-04-2016 11:25 PM  29 months agoPost 20
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Unhappy, See bold text
§ 45503. Risk-based permitting of unmanned aircraft systems 
(a) IN GENERAL.—Not later than 120 days after 15  the date of enactment of this section, the Administrator of the Federal Aviation Administration shall establish procedures for issuing permits under this section with respect 18  to certain unmanned aircraft systems and operations thereof. ‘‘(b) PERMITTING STANDARDS.—Upon the submission of an application in accordance with subsection (d), the Administrator shall issue a permit with respect to the proposed operation of an unmanned aircraft system if the Administrator determines that posed operation achieve a level of safety that is equivalent to— ....
Registration and a permit And they can Deny the permit!!!

You've got to read this bill its way ugly.

The only thing the AMA did was write themselves into the bill. Their dues will become mandatory. They are NOT looking after us. They want more power.

The new bill revokes sec.336 of the FMRA Act of 2012, and replaces it with wording that looks like sec.336 but gives the FAA more power, and includes "A not for Profit non-governmental agency" aka AMA for assisting in making rules and regulations.

The AMA is screwing us, and using our money to do it.

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