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01-28-2016 03:17 PM  3 years ago
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X-Cell Man

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Navigation lights
Help!! Can someone tell me which aircraft uses the Flashing Navigation lights and who don't?

I'm working on two scale projects. One is a Civilian Bell Long Ranger. The other is Military Jet Ranger( OH-58).
So my Long Ranger (Civilian) has a Strobe on top of Vertical fin. Then the navigation lights are on the Horizontal fins ( green on right , Red on left) then the clear/white on the tail cone. So are these suppose to flash or just stay on constant?
Now for my OH-58 has two strobe /beacon. One on top and one on the bottom. Then The navigation lights on horizontal fins and tail cone. Are these suppose to flash or not. Which ones.
I was told that civilian don't flash but that's not true.

I hope someone can put light on this for me

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Dan
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01-28-2016 05:17 PM  3 years ago
Keygrigger

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I can help with the civilian a bit. To be very clear, not all are equipped the same as it will depend on the individual purchase and how that person or company wants it set up. On a large number, the top fin light is the red beacon and depending on age, it could be an actual revolving system or it could also be a zenon multi-flash strobe. The tail cone light is a solid white light, no flashing. The horizontals you have right as they are solid red and green lights. The landing lights are two inline high intensity lamps with the front one pointing forward-down and the rear points well out in front for distant lighting of the runway and warning others of the approaching helicopter. The landing lights also act as warning lights where they alternately turn on and off as a daytime warning when landing.

You mentioned strobing of the navigation lights. Well, that can be an add-on white strobe just behind the navigation light in the horizontal fin. They can be in the same housing or right behind the navigation light but they are very close together. None of the helicopters that I researched had those equipped, even the most modern configuration but that is not to say they are not around. If you are building a specific helicopter, try to contact the company or person that owns it for the most up to date information.

The military version will also depend on how it is equipped by the branch that has it in use but in all the time I spent finding out about the Jet Ranger, I didn't pick up any information that would help in an OH-58. There should be at least one person here that knows the layout of the Kiowa better than all of us, right Copter Doctor? I have seen one Kiowa that was converted to a civilian crop duster which has one light on the rear lower body. It was a revolving strobe but the top fin light was not equipped on that crop duster. The landing light was a swing-down lamp rather than fixed internal. There were no strobes on the horizontal surface tips, only the red/green navigation lights. Also, no lights on the doghouse area. Hope this helps.

Don
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01-28-2016 07:09 PM  3 years ago
rcheli808

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Hi Dan,
I don't know about the civilian setup but my guard unit used the flashing nav lights on the OH58 aircraft. These were used to let everyone know the status of the aircraft in night missions. When the light were flashing, the aircraft was in the standby mode and when the light were steady the aircraft was ready to go.

Hope this helps.

Tim
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01-28-2016 07:44 PM  3 years ago
goodhunting

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Check this web site
it has a good explanation and layout

http://www.laureanno.com/RC/LED-helicopter.htm

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01-28-2016 08:26 PM  3 years ago
X-Cell Man

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Okay... I used wrong terms. On the Vertical fin it flashes. I know there isn't any strobe on Horizontal fin.

See if I understand this. When the Navigation lights are flashing it on stand by. Then when they are off they are ready.?
If this is the case how do you set it up so you can control it. I've used Ram lights and you only have to decide one or the other ( flash or non).
I'm not worried about the landing lights I got that. It the navigation lights
What brand is better These are 700mm fuse.

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Dan
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01-28-2016 09:19 PM  3 years ago
rcheli808

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Hi Dan
I do not have any experience with many other brands. But I have been satisfied with the Dimension Engineering product. The only problem I had with this product was that it comes with little circuit board lights...though the lights are bright. The kit comes with a controller that you can program.
This is how I arranged it on a three way switch on my UH-1 Huey:

Position 1) governor off/ lights flashing/ landing light off
2) gov on/ lights steady/ landing light off
3) gov on/ lights steady/ landing light on

I use a "Y" connecting cord to send position switch signals to the governor and the light controller.

Also on the light controller, you can adjust the type of flashing you prefer. Some civilian aircraft have different type of flashing on there landing light. With this controller you can make up you own.

Again...I don't have any experience with any other brands.

Hope this help you,

Tim
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01-29-2016 12:21 AM  3 years ago
Copter Doctor

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As mentioned, the civilian world has so many options. the best thng to do is if you are copying a particular fullsize machine that you have access to, see what the sequence is and duplicate that. as for the Kiowa warriors, the red, green and clear in the back are steady, while the red located on top of the doghouse behind the main rotor and also on the bottom of the fuselage just behind the rear skid cross tube, the alternately flash but more like a fast pulse.
Like Don said, in the civilian world, there isn't any specific pattern as it depends on the owners preference or whatever option is available.
drive a rotary, fly a rotorcraft
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01-29-2016 12:44 AM  3 years ago
X-Cell Man

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I feel like Wile E. Coyote. With a Light bulb glowing so bright over head..

I want to thank all of you!!

Thank you again guys!!!

Dan
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