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01-24-2016 01:27 AM  35 months agoPost 1
vortechZ230

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Just a thought?...

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01-24-2016 04:47 AM  35 months agoPost 2
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I thought commercial Drone operators had to have PVT pilot license

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01-24-2016 05:06 AM  35 months agoPost 3
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To operate commercially you have to have your 333 Exemption and the man on the sticks must have a pilot's license.

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01-24-2016 01:49 PM  35 months agoPost 4
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It would depend on if they allow the sport pilot license to be accepted. If it is then no but if it is a regular one and also a commercial one for doing business then theoretically you prolly would.

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01-24-2016 02:17 PM  35 months agoPost 5
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Sport, recreational, private and commercial licenses are all acceptable under the 333 Exemption. Here's the FAQ's from the FAA website.

https://www.faa.gov/uas/legislative...3/333_faqs/#q12

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01-24-2016 04:23 PM  35 months agoPost 6
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the whole uas/drone/uav thing make me sick. They've blurred the lines between large scale heavy uas/drone/cetera; machines and small few lb ones hobbyists use all the time for youtube vids. They must be real ignint to not see how ridiculous a fs pilot license is to operate a small quad/multi what a crock. Maybe they have gotten out from behind their desks and booze cans long enough to see the damage they are doing but in the name of covering their backside they forge ahead regardless of the small hobby size population. Every quad I know at the toy grade is being sold with a cam, that makes it a uas, so you gonna slap cuffs on the kid down the block capturing a real estate vid for his neighbor for $20, yeah right, faa, you guys are fooking ignant dare I say OUT OF TOUCH WITH REALITY. How do you think businesses start? by offering free or deeply discounted services out of their garage in order to build up trust, volume, and clientele, BILL GATES as example ya kooks.

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01-24-2016 05:10 PM  35 months agoPost 7
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so..
Is the 333 Exemption process required by law? An if so what law is it? Also is there a law saying that you have to get an exemption to do aerial photo/video for money? Or is it another rule that the FAA made up to try to get you to jump thru all their hoops to do it and risk your PPL if you don't follow their demands?

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01-24-2016 06:18 PM  35 months agoPost 8
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Get as many people as possible, like couple hundred and fly drones togeather without liscense and see what the FAA does lol they cant take you all down !!!

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01-24-2016 06:46 PM  35 months agoPost 9
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I disagree with all this FAA drone garbage also; however, I did not post to get into a huge debate. I am only providing information gained from my being involved in a drone mapping and videography startup this past year and I do not have a 333 exemption....keep in mind that at heart I am a heli guy and always will be!

Anyway, the FAA seems to think they have authority over the national airspace under the FAA Modernization and Reform Act of 2012 and require an exemption from section 333 of said act in order to make money flying your drone.

For some great informarion here is an excerpt from http://uavcoach.com/drone-certification/#future

"What is an FAA 333 exemption?
Here’s how the FAA describes what the 333 exemption is:"

"By law, any aircraft operation in the national airspace requires a certificated and registered aircraft, a licensed pilot, and operational approval. Section 333 of the FAA Modernization and Reform Act of 2012 (FMRA) (PDF) grants the Secretary of Transportation the authority to determine whether an airworthiness certificate is required for a UAS to operate safely in the National Airspace System (NAS)."

"This authority is being leveraged to grant case-by-case authorization for certain unmanned aircraft to perform commercial operations prior to the finalization of the Small UAS Rule, which will be the primary method for authorizing small UAS operations once it is complete."

"Okay, so what does this mean?"

"There’s a lot of history (and controversy) with the UAV certification process in the U.S., but what the FAA is basically saying is that if you’d like to fly in the U.S. and want to make money with your drone, you need to petition for and successfully obtain a 333 exemption grant."

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01-24-2016 06:55 PM  35 months agoPost 10
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That's understandable, but where is it stated by a law that Model Airplanes and Drones are aircraft?

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01-24-2016 07:38 PM  35 months agoPost 11
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In Huerta, Administrator, FAA v Pirker the NTSB Opinion and Order (NTSB Order EA-5730, Docket CP-217, issued 11/18/2014) in section 2A1defines "model aircraft" as "aircraft" as per Title 49 U.S.C, Section 40102(a)(6) and per 14 C.F.R. Section 1.1.

Here is where you can download the Order to read if you like: http://www.ntsb.gov/legal/alj/Pages/pirker.aspx

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01-24-2016 08:05 PM  35 months agoPost 12
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Have you noticed that the FAA in their usual bureaucratic incompetence, under the 333 exemption, has made the requirements to fly a drone for an ATP a much higher bar than a recreational pilot by tying it back to 61.56 ?

Since when does flying a commercial airliner have anything to do with flying a drone ? ?

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01-24-2016 08:29 PM  35 months agoPost 13
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Yes, isnt that ridiculous! That has been the topic of many discussions between my partner and I. Most full scale pilots I know couldn't, and admittedly so, even get a drone off the ground and hover much less fly it with any skill.

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01-24-2016 08:47 PM  35 months agoPost 14
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Thank you for that Heli....
Have you noticed that the FAA in their usual bureaucratic incompetence, under the 333 exemption, has made the requirements to fly a drone for an ATP a much higher bar than a recreational pilot by tying it back to 61.56 ?
I would have to think that they were motivated somewhat by all the commercial operators who would be undercut by the average joe that could of taken pictures for way less than they could....

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01-24-2016 08:51 PM  35 months agoPost 15
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I would have to think that they were motivated somewhat by all the commercial operators who . . .
You missed the point. Recreational pilots who only need a drivers license and no medical to fly, can also fly under 333.

. . . but an ATP (Airline Transport Pilot) rated pilot must be rated and qualified in a commercial aircraft and have a first class medical to fly a drone.

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01-24-2016 08:56 PM  35 months agoPost 16
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Yea I missed that, pretty stupid!!

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01-24-2016 09:23 PM  35 months agoPost 17
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AND the ATP pilot puts that on the line too if said pilot is violated for "drone" ops.....

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01-24-2016 09:40 PM  35 months agoPost 18
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Yea . . . that's about as stupid and ignorant from the FAA as one of Obama's people quoted a while back as saying the returning vets should pay for their own medical care because they "volunteered" to fight for their country

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01-24-2016 09:43 PM  35 months agoPost 19
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Get this....no FAA pilot's license needed to fly one of these!

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01-24-2016 09:46 PM  35 months agoPost 20
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Makes you wonder how the idiots that wrote that stuff ever got a job
. . . let alone a job in the FAA . . .

Among other things, the FAA says you MUST register if "You intend to operate your aircraft outside of the United States."

I didn't know the FAA was that arrogant to think they had jurisdiction outside the United States . . .

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