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01-21-2016 03:42 AM  33 months agoPost 21
rcflyerheli

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Sorry to hear about the slop in the tail. I guess a lot of people will fault me for my viewpoint on this, but the ONE big axiom that I have always subscribed to is that I go for the best reasonable quality that I can afford in my hobby related pursuit.

I don't mean this to sound like any kind of elitist attitude, but this is a hobby, and as such, one is supposed to get enjoyment from it. So it seems counter intuitive to not get as good equipment as I can. I can't relate to how many beginners that have tried to go with the least expensive equipment that they can get, and then go out to the field to fly and have nothing but problems with the motor or radio, and end up crashing. Then they say the hobby is just to expensive and they quit.

You hit the nail on the head on your post about the tail slop, and going with Align. I'm not in any affiliated with Align, except having built and flown numerous models of their helis, but this is a case that accurately points out what I am saying.

Good luck in getting your heli up and running.

Logo 700, Specter 700, Goblin 700, Trex 700DFC, Gaui X7, Logo 690SX, Logo 600SX; Trex 470 Trex 500
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01-21-2016 04:30 AM  33 months agoPost 22
reinhardt37

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I edited my post. My 20cc Cal-craft Mono is more reliable than this! JUST KIDDING. I totally agree with you. I forgot that even noobs fly helicopters. I honestly forgot about price point when I realized this would fit in my local park perfectly and everyone said it would fly! I totally forgot that people buy the 100FP then the 130FP then Oh hey I got a CP heli! WOW me. I honestly honestly forgot that. I only need 2 Lynx parts for this and my LHS owes me 60 dollars so I'm not about to drive my RC car into the Wall just yet, So to say.

I wanted a heli because I am so tired of being patient!!!!

I'll just have fun in NORM until my new Tail Pitch Slider and Bell Crank lever arrive. Hopefully Monday If my LHS can get Lynx that quick.

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01-22-2016 01:02 AM  33 months agoPost 23
reinhardt37

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01-26-2016 01:27 AM  33 months agoPost 24
reinhardt37

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Update: I upgraded some parts in the Tail to accommodate my 62mm Lynx blades. Now there is no vibration in the tail. I hovered the helicopter for 2 minutes to check battery drain and everything seems normal. I thought it funny that I couldn't hear my DX7 beep. I will have to try the sim with my Timex watch tonight. Oddly there is a breeze growing to wind in the 5 day forecast.

I will be trying very hard not to fly inverted for a while!

Hardt

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01-27-2016 02:17 AM  33 months agoPost 25
reinhardt37

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02-01-2016 06:30 PM  33 months agoPost 26
reinhardt37

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When I do a tic tok the tail has a high pitch wag. Fast FF is fine but I can make the tail tweak out a little If i do tic toks in any direction Or slam on the breaks inverted. I will lower the gain tomorrow.

I doubt I will put beastX in my Logo 500 but so far it has been very good to me. My gyro setting are limited because my Beastx has old firmware. Still cool.

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02-01-2016 07:44 PM  33 months agoPost 27
Heli Fanatix

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FF flight is not demanding on the tail as much as Tic Toc's

If the tail is moving on you during Tic Toc's, than you need more tail authority (assuming if your setup, tail gain & settings are correct).
If I'm not mistaken, you are using a Beastx. It's good enough for 3D... I would suggest:
- increasing the HS when doing Tic Toc's
- use CF tail blades for better authority
- being a thumber, you have to finesse the controls smoothly
- You are giving too much input and bogging the motor and loosing tail authority as the HS drops

* More collective .. Less Cyclic & vise versa
** Pitching & Hybrid Method is more precise
*** Thumbing lets you do Ninja Tic Toc's but the side effect is too much movement.

It's better to learn to compensate and give small, smooth & deliberate inputs vs tuning your FBL to enable your big inputs. I know you indicated you feel you can never do crazy fast 3D. True, since you are arriving that decision at your current skill level. But once you progress, you will think differently. It's always best to learn correctly by giving small inputs. This will pay dividends in the future and you won't have to relearn later.

Please keep in mind that you can not expect little 450's or not as powerful gassers to react & fly like bigger electric heli's where they would be good learning platforms for entry 3D maneuvers while in the learning phase.

Hope this helps.

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02-04-2016 09:35 PM  33 months agoPost 28
reinhardt37

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absolutely! That has been my area of study. Being smooth and respecting the Main Blades. My Tail is upgraded and now flies backwards. Tic Toks are getting smoother as I figured out my Dial Adjustments. The heli elevator flips like normal, Inverted is a dream, sideways rainbows, and elevator rainbows are all gr8! Tic Toks are normalish but I am not working on those yet. I have another thread going pertaining to my desire to get Rate mode to work properly. 4 point rolls are smooth and I can adjust for the small amount of Cyclic Gain I feel but sideways looping or rolling in one place creates a major problem; which I believe has %100 to do with being stuck in Heading Hold Giro Gain. I am SO happy with this helicopter I love flying inverted and i really Love slamming on the breaks while inverted. The Giro Is my only problem now.

Thank you for your advice because that Is absolutely what I have found to be true . Once I get a 550 or 700 It will be a monster of Art and Function. I am finding out that I can fly perfect circles in wind and I REALLY love being able to remove lift from my heli at will. Unlike airplanes. Im just having so much fun over here!

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02-04-2016 09:40 PM  33 months agoPost 29
reinhardt37

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In a nut shell I have finally realized my journey within RC and I am just supper happy when my little copter flies inverted circles at 40Mph. I am now working on SLOWING my momentum so I can expand my Collective manipulation manuevers.

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02-06-2016 01:45 AM  33 months agoPost 30
reinhardt37

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Wonderful news! I am now able to add rudder commands to my aileron rolls and forward flight tick tocks. My upgrades are nearly complete and the goal of finding a orientation training mobile has been accomplished. Never again will I start with a cheap model but this one has a special place in my heart.
Has anyone seen a spiral cut pinion gear that fits half way onto the shaft and is easily secured by the lock screw BUT has a smaller diameter hole halfway through That the motor shaft could not fit in? I ordered a LYNX 11t pinion and it seems to have been designed to only fit halfway on to my beveled shaft. If this is normal then I will just put washers between the motor mount and the motor to achieve proper vertical alignment with the main.

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02-06-2016 01:53 AM  33 months agoPost 31
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I started a thread in the electric section it just doesn't have any views yet. I can't imagine a motor with a shaft of 2 diameters so I believe this pinion will work whether I slide the motor shaft through the lock (on top of outrunner) or raise the motor itself.

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02-22-2016 09:24 PM  32 months agoPost 32
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Well when I started I didn't know the difference between a governor and a ESC or that my transmitter could interact with my FBL system. I may not even want to go bigger than a Align 450 500 max.

Thank you everyone for your help!

AR

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