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01-21-2016 07:25 PM  3 years ago
HeimD

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We should all remember that the FAA includes more modelers than non-modelers.
Where did that come from? Proof?
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01-21-2016 07:27 PM  3 years ago
HeimD

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I just want to tool around the club field like I always have.
Then just keep on keepin' on... Unless you live in the DC SFRA, nothing changes. Take two minutes to register. Then put your number on your model(s). Or not. Personally, I'm sticking with what the AMA said about being allowed to just use that number which is in/on all my models already anyway. Go to your club field, fly and enjoy it, same as before.
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01-21-2016 08:33 PM  3 years ago
Simmer

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So I just measured our flying field as a way to guesstimate 400' and it isn't good. I have never bothered to pay attention to my height. Flying a plane or 60 helicopter or even a Goblin 500 (smaller craft) I was surprised to find our runway is 436' long. 400 feet is not a very high altitude at all. I would guess I normally fly under 400 but not but a whole lot and now I know I have flown over that many times without even knowing. Will have to be much more aware of my height when I venture to the field next.
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01-21-2016 09:35 PM  3 years ago
RM3

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I take it this guy REALLY broke the law big time!

Watch at YouTube

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...
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01-21-2016 09:41 PM  3 years ago
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That's just the sort of thing I wouldn't mind the FAA getting involved with. Listen to his narrative, and how many times he was in peril.

This isn't 1903, folks. The sky is full of airplanes. The risk mitigation this guy used was "let's launch a glider way up and see what happens." This type of thinking is unpassable for aviation. And this activity surpasses anything that could be considered modeling.

Did he get approval to launch this balloon? Does he realize how unsafe it is to operate a model FPV in actual IFR condition? Is it legal to use a balloon with that type of payload? I'm betting the answer is no to each.

There are too many questions.

If he did the proper coordination, I'd take back much of what I said in this post. But I don't get that vibe from his narrative. He was making decisions on the fly and luck was a major factor.
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01-21-2016 09:48 PM  3 years ago
revmix

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This isn't 1903, folks. The sky is full of airplanes.
https://www.airnav.com/airports/us
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01-21-2016 10:11 PM  3 years ago
Aaron29

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I checked his website. Just as I suspected. While he goes deep into the tech aspects, there isn't one peep about risk mitigation planning or clearances.

http://rcexplorer.se/projects/2013/...space-and-back/

There were some voices of concern in the comments that were shut down by his fanbase. I just can't support this philosophy. There are lives at stake and the world isn't his personal science lab.
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01-21-2016 11:48 PM  3 years ago
Heli_Splatter

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This gets me to thinking about Maynard Hill's RC autonomous crossing of the Atlantic. I wonder what went into the flight plan for that world record. I think that he flew pretty low, so it was not a problem.

I think that the thing to note is to seek FAA or flight services in your area and try to plan a safe experiment or routine. Most of those guys are scientists at heart and will help if possible.

The FAA's job is to keep the airspace safe for the travel of you and your loved ones.
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01-22-2016 09:03 PM  3 years ago
rexxigpilot

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We are now slaves one and all to the Federal government through the FAA. Resist, fight or acquiesce, it's all up to you!
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01-23-2016 12:27 AM  3 years ago
Simmer

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For me its not the money but now the cost of flying my aircraft. $1.66 per year more. It simply is what it is. Not happy about it in principle, going to be a little shaky as far as those who would come to our heli funfly but I think we must move on. If the AMA is able to include it in the future in our annual dues (if you will) that would be great. Not expecting to be bailed out. It does effect how I now feel about the AMA.... whatever.
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01-23-2016 12:28 AM  3 years ago
Aaron29

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I guess my acquiescence is because I'm used to it with full size. Just know this. The FAA doesn't ruin my time in a full size. The enjoyment is worth the hassle. So, don't get too wrapped around the axle. Things should be OK in the end.

I came out the gate seething. But I've decided that getting angry over something I have no control over is not good for my health. I've already done what was in my control. Now I will see what comes.

Like the other guy said you'll either comply or not. Someone may decide the hassle is worth it. Another may decide to go rogue. Your risk. Your choice. I won't snitch unless I see something blatant. But I also won't risk going rogue.
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01-23-2016 01:45 AM  3 years ago
revmix

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no overthinking
just play r/c as before & now even official not only CBO style
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01-23-2016 12:37 PM  3 years ago
Heli_Splatter

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I would certainly never trust the AMA to make sure my registration has been paid. Do you want to trust your insurance agent to pay your drivers license fee or your tickets for speeding.

There are some things that are governmental in nature. I see this AMA move as simply a power play to keep members. Move over AMA there is a new sheriff in town.
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01-23-2016 07:50 PM  3 years ago
revmix

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400'
fly below what? horizon or VLOS or sunshine rise & set or the Moon?
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01-23-2016 08:03 PM  3 years ago
TMoore

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AMA members can fly over 400'.
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01-23-2016 08:09 PM  3 years ago
revmix

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any r/c player can as per #336 & CBO S.C., 400' is not a set rule
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01-23-2016 08:14 PM  3 years ago
TMoore

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any r/c player can as per #336 & CBO S.C.
Boom bang, sorry dude, only AMA members may exceed the 400' AGL, not any.

(2) the aircraft is operated in accordance with a community based
set of safety guidelines and within the programming of a nationwide community-based organization;

"programming" implies membership.
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01-23-2016 08:27 PM  3 years ago
revmix

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within the internet CBO & S.C. combo
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01-23-2016 08:34 PM  3 years ago
revmix

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"programming" implies membership.
nokidding
12-22-2015 09:38 PM
compliance
[spin rational]
truth is in the details

(2) the aircraft is operated in accordance with a community-based set of safety guidelines and within the programming of a nationwide community-based organization;
accordingly any r/c player has to belong to a local club affiliated with national hobby group,
kicker; within programming matches within VLOS
https://rc.runryder.com/t800958p5/?p=6546643#RR
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01-23-2016 08:35 PM  3 years ago
TMoore

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Sorry but FAA registration only gets up to 400'. AMA members may exceed 400'.

https://rc.runryder.com/t800958p5/?p=6546643#RR

non sequitur, extraneous, doesn't apply to Promise to fly below 400'?
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