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01-11-2016 06:34 PM  3 years ago
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moses

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AMA RULES and AMA INSURANCE
quick question if your a AMA member can you go anywhere and fly????
like if i wanted to go to a local school and fly cause they have a large soccer field and a large football field lots of room to fly if there is nobody around could i fly there and be covered by the AMA if something should happen?
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01-11-2016 06:46 PM  3 years ago
Jerry K

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Yes But the FAA may have a different idea about it.

But to answer your question you are covered as long as you are not violating the AMA safety code.
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01-11-2016 06:46 PM  3 years ago
banshee rider

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Yes pretty much as long as the school park or whatever has no
rules against it
ageing is manditory maturity is optional
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01-11-2016 06:51 PM  3 years ago
xcellgasman101

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I think you will need permission from the land owner,,, XGM/VGMJohn Crotts
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01-11-2016 07:00 PM  3 years ago
moses

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Yes have permission school board is good with it
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01-11-2016 08:18 PM  3 years ago
mr dan

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This is terrible advice. Not many schools, public parks allow rc aircraft. The short answer is no you are not covered. Read the bylwas please."R.I.P Roman" Citizen 0094 in the Nation
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01-11-2016 08:56 PM  3 years ago
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This is terrible advice
Well I don't know if I would go that far as to say Terrible!! I flew my heli at a old baseball field when not in use, I had permission from the school, and city, AMA will cover you as long as you have been granted a OK to GO.. Now is it the best place to fly,, NO, you never know when a kid will show up, if nothing else but to ask you 10,000 questions,, But if you have permission, and not flying while occupied, Go for it,,, XGM/VGM
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01-11-2016 09:01 PM  3 years ago
banshee rider

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mr dan
This is terrible advice. Not many schools, public parks allow rc aircraft. The short answer is no you are not covered. Read the bylwas please
I think maybe you should read them again

We are covered just about anywhere as long as we follow the AMA
safety guide lines

We can fly in just about any park or school as long as a person isn't endangering any one

Here in Illinois there is no state laws against it
If a school or city has a rule/law against

Then you are Trespassing

But you are still insured
ageing is manditory maturity is optional
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01-11-2016 09:11 PM  3 years ago
banshee rider

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Actually I think a person is still insured regardless
of where there flying

I don t see anywhere that the AMA says that your not insured
if you do this or that

Insurance covers you if your driving drunk
also covers you if you burn your house down doing stupid things

So I don't think they can refuse to cover you if your paying the $$

and it is secondary insurance anyways after your homeowners pays first
ageing is manditory maturity is optional
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01-11-2016 09:15 PM  3 years ago
xcellgasman101

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somewhere it say's You must have permission,, that's all I know,, XGM/VGMJohn Crotts
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01-11-2016 09:44 PM  3 years ago
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You can find the AMA safety code here:

https://www.modelaircraft.org/files/105.PDF
  
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01-11-2016 09:45 PM  3 years ago
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xcellgasman101
somewhere it say's You must have permission,, that's all I know,, XGM/VGM
John Crotts
You wont get any argument from me
I am not a lawyer
But I just read all the AMA rules again just now and no where does it say they wont insure us for any infraction of there rules / guidelines

I don't think they can refuse paying because you broke there rules
after talking to my Insurance man
He told me Insurance underwriters cannot refuse a payout unless
it is specified in the policy

That they will not be liable under certain conditions
and there is no such disclaimer in the AMA rules/guidelines

And they don't have any rules against flying in parks or schools
unless your breaking a law or rule made by the owner of the property

I am not a renegade flyer I fly at AMA sanction fields
and once in a while at a Church or school with my little stuff

But a lot of people just don't have a AMA sanction field nearby
to use
ageing is manditory maturity is optional
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01-11-2016 09:47 PM  3 years ago
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AMA membership manual here:

https://www.modelaircraft.org/files/memanual.pdf
  
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01-12-2016 02:32 AM  3 years ago
mr dan

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Boys, unless you have approval from the ACTUAL school district to fly on any school property, no one person ,principal or teacher or janitor can give permission to do so. They may say go ahead and fly but when and god forbid something goes wrong, your home insurance will be hit hard, it is then that your ama coverage (which by the way is a secondary to your HOI) will more than likely be rejected. Ive worked in the school districts believe me, its not a good idea to assume you are in the clear just because someone who works at the school said so. You would literally have to apply for a facilities use permit to be in the clear. You can debate me as much as you woild like but fact is fact."R.I.P Roman" Citizen 0094 in the Nation
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01-12-2016 02:50 AM  3 years ago
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If you don't have a rental application approved in writing or board meeting minutes showing you were approved by the school board, you should not consider yourself approved.Enjoy things that money can buy IF you don't lose the things money can't buy.
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01-12-2016 04:24 AM  3 years ago
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Well all I can say to these facts is where is the proof ?

I know that there has been numerous incidents considering how many people fly at schools

but I have yet to hear of one case where the modelers were not covered

Like I said before Insurance companies cant just deny coverage
because you broke a rule/law

If that was the case they would never pay out any $$$

And the AMA pays out a lot of money every year for people doing stuff they shouldn't

Here is a link from the AMA it is about 3 years old

http://www.modelaircraft.org/files/500-q.pdf

A person should always have permission
but I don't think you need permission in writing from the board

Adults and kids play on school grounds after school is out
on weekends and in the summer all the time doing all kinds of stuff

Without any written proof from anybody

and the only thing that happens is they are asked to leave /not do it anymore when what they are doing causes a problem

unless the property is posted then that's a whole different story
ageing is manditory maturity is optional
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01-12-2016 11:47 AM  3 years ago
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I would agree, if agreement is not written, you don't have an agreement. Verbal contracts may be enforceable, but they disappear when you need them the most.
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01-12-2016 12:44 PM  3 years ago
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I obtained written permission from the school. Mainly because in this current situation of terrorist I knew the cops would be checking me and the written and signed paper would make it easy to explain.
I also stated it would only be when school is out, no children around and no activities going on.
I sweeten the deal by offering to supply the pictures that I took of the school.
I think about the hereafter. I go somewhere to get something, then wonder what I'm here after ?
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01-13-2016 02:13 PM  3 years ago
moses

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has anybody ever filed a claim against the AMA ? has anybody ever got any money from them when filed ???
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01-13-2016 03:16 PM  3 years ago
mr dan

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Banshee rider you are correct, you dont need permission from the school board, you get written permission from the school districts main office for a facilities use permit. Has absolutely nothing to do with the school board. Insurances require this permit for groups and individuals who want to use school's for activities from pop warner football, to LL baseball , to company softball ect. A single individual can obtain a use permit if he/she requested one. The reason for this is to remove any liability on behalf of the school and to assure all damages to school property will be the responsibility of the person given permission."R.I.P Roman" Citizen 0094 in the Nation
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