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03-14-2016 01:28 PM  4 years ago
BeltFedBrowning

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It's becoming too much of a PITA to fly anymore
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03-14-2016 01:29 PM  4 years ago
dkshema

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I signed up. It's the law. If you refused, you are not exempt.-----
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03-14-2016 02:31 PM  4 years ago
jschenck

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I also have my FAA registration number - I still want to fly my model airplanes and heli's, this is now a requirement.
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03-14-2016 02:43 PM  4 years ago
ICUR1-2

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I am/was amazed at how readily some of us sign away their freedom.
Well considering this is model helicopter forum, I have come to realise this isn't the place to recruit a rebellion of any sort

Personally I would have skipped all registration for at least the first season while the battles are being fought.

spending time, paying attention
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03-14-2016 03:30 PM  4 years ago
1helimech

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If it was ez your looking for become a dronie....just say'n, not a put down, just a fact.....

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I dream of a better world, A world where a chicken's crossing a road IS NOT questioned
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03-14-2016 06:24 PM  4 years ago
Aaron29

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I am/was amazed at how readily some of us sign away their freedom.
What else are you going to do? Take up arms? Come on. Obviously not. So you'll just operate under the radar and hope nothing happens. Well...Good luck.

Judge me all you want. I weighed the pros and cons and made a choice. You made yours.
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03-14-2016 06:28 PM  4 years ago
Aaron29

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I hope the guys who signed up get what they deserve.
Enough with the indignation. The only guys who will get any punishment whatsoever are those who are caught without registration.

Hate to break it to you, but this is the real world, and if you search your soul, you'll realize that your personal feelings about rightness and wrongness do not apply on a great many things in life. This is just one of them. No need to drag down a fellow modeler for making the choice that is best for them. Operating under the radar is risky business and you have no right to demand it of anyone.
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03-14-2016 06:32 PM  4 years ago
don s

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It certainly has put a damper on new purchases for me.E820, Raptor G4N, X50F/E, E620, Forza 450, and some planks.
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03-14-2016 06:47 PM  4 years ago
ICUR1-2

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Hate to break it to you, but this is the real world, and if you search your soul, you'll realize that your personal feelings about rightness and wrongness do not apply on a great many things in life. This is just one of them. No need to drag down a fellow modeler for making the choice that is best for them. Operating under the radar is risky business and you have no right to demand it of anyone.
+1

No need to fight amongst ourselves when it's the "establishment" that needs to be put in it's place.
If you can protest do so to your abilities with out causing harm to others.

That's as far as I can go

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03-14-2016 06:51 PM  4 years ago
ICUR1-2

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Ideas for media protests
Start wearing t-shirts to events that say something about the FAA
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03-15-2016 05:40 AM  4 years ago
conbones

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dont care i will do the american thing and take a risk. you do what you want but i will fight to my dying breath. Enjoy your shackles subjects.
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03-15-2016 05:55 AM  4 years ago
Aaron29

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Enjoy looking over your shoulder.
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03-15-2016 07:12 AM  4 years ago
conbones

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What and giving up is going to change that! Surely you jest!
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03-15-2016 07:27 AM  4 years ago
Aaron29

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When I was younger, I sped. I'd always have to look out for the police and when I saw one I had to stealthily hit the brakes. I rarely got ticketed but driving was stressful with all the scanning for enforcement threats. It got to where it simply wasn't worth it. On normal trips around town you only save like a minute driving fast anyway.

So I know what looking over my shoulder feels like.

So anyway. Now, I drive the speed limit, or like 3 over. And happily I don't care when a cop is at the intersection ahead, or whatever. I've found a relative peace in just following the law, even though it costs me a little time getting home.

I no longer look over my shoulder whatsoever. And I find a huge peace in that worth every extra second my drive takes.

This FAA thing is the same. I don't want to stress every time an authority figure is around. So I'll just pony up and when the cops come by the RC field I can happily show them my interest without the slightest concern or fine or incarceration, etc. You can call me as many names as you like, but in the end, your shaming doesn't hold a candle up to the threats I'd face following your footsteps.

Anyway, three posts from you, two insults, so I'm not sure I want to continue our little banter. However, I'll end it with this...I hope the best for you. No kidding or sarcasm. I really hope you are able to enjoy your hobby. I personally could not in your position. Nor does it appear you could in mine. We each made the choice we can live with. I wish the best for you, and can only hope somewhere you have such wellwishing for me.
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03-15-2016 07:59 AM  4 years ago
conbones

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Spare me.
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03-15-2016 10:02 AM  4 years ago
EEngineer

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It's the law
All I know is that federal law exempts all RC hobbyists from FAA regs.

Senator James Inhofe(R-OK) sponsored this specific legislation which was duly passed into federal law.

At this time.

So the FAA's ruling is not the law. The FAA cannot pass any "laws".

With all due respect.

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03-15-2016 03:14 PM  4 years ago
BarracudaHockey

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Their take is they didn't enact a regulation, they simply chose to view an existing one as already applying to RC planes.

Could you beat it? Possibly.

Would it cost you more than the 5 bux to register? Definitely

Would it cost you more than the 27K fine to fight the feds? Yup.

Might you win on principle in the end while paying a lawyer several times the fine to fight it? Again, most likely.

It's all risk reward. To me I'd rather pay 5 bux
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03-15-2016 03:53 PM  4 years ago
jschenck

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o I'll just pony up and when the cops come by the RC field I can happily show them my interest without the slightest concern or fine or incarceration, etc.
Could you beat it? Possibly.
Would it cost you more than the 5 bux to register? Definitely
Would it cost you more than the 27K fine to fight the feds? Yup.
Might you win on principle in the end while paying a lawyer several times the fine to fight it? Again, most likely.

It's all risk reward. To me I'd rather pay 5 bux
This is my sentiment also - I do not want to potentially spend years of my life on a crusade to right this wrong. In principle I strongly disagree with the FAA and consider this another example of government over-reach but I'm not willing to risk my personal time or money for this particular cause.

What I WILL do is vote. Unfortunately I suspect enough of the people who will actually make it to the polling places and fill out the voting cards may be looking for "The govt will take care of me" and vote in socialism rather than "I take care of myself" and vote in accountability (for your elected officials and yourself).
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03-15-2016 05:49 PM  4 years ago
MagicFingers

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Five Bucks
When they start adding up what we spend, do you really think it will remain five bucks?
Each one, teach one
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03-15-2016 07:23 PM  4 years ago
Aaron29

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It's five bucks for full size. And they spend orders of magnitude more than us.

So, yes. I do.
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