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02-27-2016 07:07 PM  33 months agoPost 141
Heli_Splatter

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Here is some help... when you buy fuel, you see value.

Buying AMA membership... maybe you don't read the magazine any longer because it rarely has something that you are interested in reading. The insurance is not primary insurance. You have never been to the Land of Oz in Muncie. You do not compete. Then the AMA pulls a stunt like they did in Dec/Jan to undermine the FAA.

It is not the money, it is the value, and it is because you are FORCED to do it to fly at many fields.

Still, I will be doing it late next month. Will wait as long as possible.

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02-27-2016 07:55 PM  33 months agoPost 142
dkshema

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The AMA did not pull a stunt to undermine the FAA.

The AMA ran into a power hungry, rogue, government agency, which was willing to rule in its own interest, in spite of a law forbidding it to do what it wanted to do.

The government has very deep pockets and various means to make life difficult for people/organizations that get in its way.

I don't fault AMA for not prevailing. They and others continue to work within the system to right this wrong. Some headway has been made with reopening flying sites in the DC area.

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02-28-2016 12:58 AM  33 months agoPost 143
jackp332

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Well said Heli Splatter. I agree with you totally on the value aspect.

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02-28-2016 02:15 AM  33 months agoPost 144
Aaron29

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Club access. Peace of mind. Neither of these has changed after the FAA thing. And yet no one considered them a problem until this recent business.

I wasn't a member for the representation anyway. Nothing changed for me from a year ago. I still have to pay to play and it doesn't keep me up at night.

I am angry at a few policies but there's nothing better than AMA for us and until there is I'm not going anywhere.

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02-28-2016 03:57 PM  33 months agoPost 145
DCORSAIR

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So, I have stayed quiet through all this AMA/FAA thing for the most part and I have a question. I fly most of the time by myself and have been an AMA member for a long time. I didn't renew this yr just because I no longer fly at events, where I moved now I just walk across the street onto a nice open blacktop flying surface and fly all I want too or go to my old abandoned runway and fly there, yes it is a runway owned by a farmer who no longer flies full scale and has closed the runway with the FAA.

So I don't really need AMA but I do need to register with the FAA to still be able to fly and not get in trouble??

I will still go ahead and renew my AMA to have the insurance to be on the safe side.

I fly helis and EDF Jets.

Thanks guys, just asking a simple question and please just give me a simple answer.

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02-28-2016 04:07 PM  33 months agoPost 146
fastrc1

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Darrel you are correct. Register with the FAA and rock on rocker.

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02-28-2016 05:50 PM  33 months agoPost 147
DCORSAIR

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Thank you sir!!!

I did get some sad news not to long ago, this Calif. high speed worthless rail is coming not to far in front of my house and I will loose this nice asphalt runway soon as it looks right now but I will return to my old place which as been for 20+ yrs and only 3 miles away, when it goes away then that will be it for me, I will hang it up and say bye bye to this hobby!!!!!!

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02-28-2016 06:51 PM  33 months agoPost 148
fastrc1

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I guess they're gonna eminent domain everyone around there.

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03-05-2016 06:01 AM  33 months agoPost 149
TMoore

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Anyone see this?

http://fortune.com/2016/03/04/drone-hit-plane/

Delayed Response Operator Not Engaged
AMA SECTION 336 = Good
Drones = EVIL

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03-05-2016 04:06 PM  33 months agoPost 150
Aaron29

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It's only a matter of time.

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03-10-2016 04:57 PM  33 months agoPost 151
revmix

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sUAS/model ain't toy when push comes to shove
check the latest version; page 85 § 44808.

http://transportation.house.gov/upl...he_airr_act.pdf

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03-12-2016 04:52 AM  33 months agoPost 152
dkshema

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Page 85 is a subsection associated with transferring Air Traffic Control to a private, not-for profit corporation and moving ATC out of the control of the FAA. There is nothing on pages 84 through 87 dealing with sUAS operation.

Perhaps you need to try again.

Reading further down to the Special Rule for Model Aircraft, that section seems to establish additional definition of model aircraft as well as pretty much puts the AMA into the legislation without explicitly naming it.

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03-12-2016 06:48 AM  33 months agoPost 153
revmix

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AMA's motto education comes true via hobby sUAS/model aeronautical knowledge test (7)
this is the correct one, the Senate version; page 85, SEC. 2129. § 44808.

http://www.commerce.senate.gov/publ...a-bill-text.pdf

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03-12-2016 12:14 PM  33 months agoPost 154
Heli_Splatter

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Aeronautical Test:

1.) where is the ground?
2.) Where is the sky?
3.) Do you have your wallet in your pocket?

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03-12-2016 12:58 PM  33 months agoPost 155
rapidity

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If it's anything like the private pilot test, they provide you with all the answers to all the questions even before you take it.

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03-12-2016 04:43 PM  33 months agoPost 156
Simmer

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My wife is involved with Real Estate and the Realtors organization had some information I found interesting. Initially my wife said there were no rules to govern drone flights, which was when I asked her to please find that info and get it to me. What she read is as follows: "Laws around drone use are still in development stages, if they exist at all."

Yeah, that peaked my interest So I dug around a bit and found that this is not exactly true. What I did find was it looks like there will be a plan in the future to relax the restriction that requires a Sport pilots license. "They will be replaced with a new drone license program. Pilots will have to take a test, but no sport pilot flight time."

Interesting read.
http://www.netar.us/briefs/drones-f...s-from-webinar/

Maybe this isn't news to some of you, but its telling me that there are possible plans in store.

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03-14-2016 11:18 AM  33 months agoPost 157
EEngineer

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TX

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sUAS/model ain't toy when push comes to shove
check the latest version; page 85 § 44808.
Under current FEDERAL LAW, any RC aircraft used by RC HOBBYISTS are exempt from any ARBITRARY and CAPRICIOUS....BS....PERPETRATED by these FAA POLITICAL fools.

These people can't pass law....including rev.

LMAO

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03-14-2016 12:34 PM  33 months agoPost 158
1helimech

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We had a model aircraft display at a local hockey game last weekend. I had five of my helis there. The number one question asked of me was, where is the camera. The helis on display where a Goblin 380, a goblin 500 sport, a TSA 700N , a Mostro, and a MSH Protos Max....just say'n

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03-14-2016 01:09 PM  33 months agoPost 159
dkshema

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EE..

The current legislation being passed through Congress - the House of Representatives and the Senate - will become law if and when the two bills are reconciled and agreed upon, and when signed by the President.

These people DO make law and the process is defined in the Constitution.

Currently, the bills in the the House and Senate differ. BOTH bills repeal section 336 of PL 112-95.

The House bill reinstates the wording of PL 112-95, section 336, and strengthens the definition of model aircraft, adding language which essentially defines the community based organization to be the AMA.

The Senate bill also reinstates much of the wording of PL 112-95 section 336, but adds some troubling wording requiring people to pass an FAA safety test, and keep records of passage before they can fly.

That is a problem.

For those who said registration was no big deal and was only a paper formality, it is time to wake up. By obtaining your registration number, you agreed to be fined anywhere from $27,000 to $250,000, and perhaps spend 3 years in jail for not following the rules. If you recall, when applying for that piece of paper, you had to click a check box stating all the information supplied was accurate, under penalty of perjury.

Now, as new legislation is crafted we see the Goverment beginning its creeping incrementalism by adding seemingly innocuous additional regulations into the law.

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03-14-2016 01:22 PM  33 months agoPost 160
conbones

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I hope the guys who signed up get what they deserve.

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