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01-07-2016 06:48 PM  4 years ago
Aaron29

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recruit the bullets for suicide missions
lol
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01-08-2016 01:23 AM  4 years ago
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His foot stage on gun to be heard tonight
Obama is genuinely a f(>in idiot and lying selfish jack@$$.

He knew mass murdere is not going to place where guns is to carry out their atrocities they rather
They target unarmed citizen he knew dam well is intention.
I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,
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01-08-2016 01:34 AM  4 years ago
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I haven't watched the first video and honestly he's got nothing to say I want to hear. When months ago, he pointed to UK & Australia as models, that was the last straw for me. I now know his ultimate goal. Despite his promises that he is looking for moderation on guns, he showed his cards. I now know that nothing that comes out of his mouth promising moderation contains any truth whatsoever. There's nothing more I need to hear to know what he is and his true intentions.

He will fail, BTW, to tell you that the overall homicide rate in UK has been unchanged since passing all the gun laws. The subjects are no safer from crime. All the bans did was forever make it so that people will be slaves.

I fear the government that doesn't entrust its people and wants a monopoly on force. Why many others do not cringe at what is occurring blows my mind.
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01-08-2016 02:43 AM  4 years ago
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How Adolph Hitler, Stalin, Mau and the others started. History don't lie, but a liberal sure does. Or should we not insult a liberal and call them socialist democrats. Hmmm, who was it in recent history that was a socialist democrat?
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01-08-2016 02:37 PM  4 years ago
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I read a really good article about how the Nazis started gun confiscation with the Jews (which is what also started the round up of Jews) and how it progressed from there.
If I can dig it up, I'll post it. Very enlightening.
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01-08-2016 06:03 PM  4 years ago
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I'll concede that I don't think Obama is that evil. However, look at it like Trotsky and Lenin. They may have been looked upon as good saviors, but they unwittingly set the stage for Stalin to come to power.

Like them, Obama is unwittingly setting the civilized against the barbaric without any means of protection. And unwittingly setting people against tyranny with no means of resistance. Like sheep amidst the wolves.

Our forefathers weren't stupid. Flawed, but not stupid.

The irony is learning WHY we have a Bill of Rights. And WHY it seems tacked on to the end of the Constitution. Well, the first "constitution," called the Articles of Confederation, did not give much power to the federal government, and it showed right away. A new constitution was drafted up that gave more power to the fed.

There were two camps, the FEDERALISTS, those who wanted to increase the power in the federal government. And the ANTIFEDERALISTS, those who wanted to leave power in the states, and were leery of centralizing power. The ANTIFEDERALISTS did not want to sign this new constitution. Saying it centralized power too much. The FEDERALISTS had to SELL THE CONSITUTITON. The only way they could sell it at all and get it ratified by the states was by adding the BILL OF RIGHTS. And among these rights was the second amendment.

See that it is not the ANTIFEDERALIST PAPERS that you are typically referred to in order to see the arguments as to why the second amendment was written. It is the FEDERALIST PAPERS. It is very telling what the FEDERALISTS had to say about arms in the hands of people. They used this fact to alleviate fears of tyranny. That free men will always be able to stop it. Read the FEDERALIST PAPERS with an understanding that this was written by people wanting to centralize authority a little more, with promises in trade, and then consider for a moment. Would the states have ratified the Constitution if they knew the Bill of Rights would be eroded to the extent is has been today? No. They would not.

The other irony, is there actually WAS an ANTIFEDERALIST PAPERS. It warned against tyranny. It didn't want to sign the constitution at all as it gave the federal government more power. Only once the FEDERALISTS added the BILL OF RIGHTS and addressed their concerns was it ever ratified.

The democrats are basically the modern day FEDERALISTS, looking to centralize even more power. Problem is, they can only do this by eroding the promises they'd made 200+ years ago. Basically modern power hungry FEDERALISM is welching on its own promise. Well, isn't that convenient? You mean to tell me government lied?

The constitution is the agreement between a people and their government. We have the right to alter it. But is that really what we want to do? Why all the hubbub 200 years ago over rights? BECAUSE THEY'D BEEN STEPPED ON. It's so easy to forget that rights are fought for but once gone, don't come back without a fight. You can give up your rights without a fight, but all you are doing is setting up a future generation for struggle, violence, and a fight. If you won't preserve the rights for you, do it for them.

People do not know their history. Such ignorance. They see all problems as modern and don't consider larger impact. Doomed to repeat it. While we are concerned about safety from criminals, which isn't nearly the problem you think it is, we are ignoring the biggest potential criminals of all, unchecked government. Truth is, government is more dangerous than criminals. A look at what governments did in the 20th century should be enough to convince you of this. But if it isn't, look at what it did when it had ultimate power in monarchies. Then look at the wars they wage.

Truth is, government and criminals both need to be controlled. But gun control doesn't control either. Gun control only controls YOU. Figure it out, and see why well minded people are against gun control. Please, I beg of you to consider what it is you are bringing to the world by allowing a monopoly of force to exist in government and criminal hands. This is not the way to a better future. THINK.
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01-08-2016 11:33 PM  4 years ago
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Aaron, excellent summary of past history and the ongoing facts of today's government oversteps. How soon the past is forgotten, and in some cases rewritten and taught as fact to enhance the lie. It should be mandatory in American History class from elementary through college to study the original documents, the situation and timing of writing and what they truly mean. One of the biggest reasons we are in the shape we are now, the vast majority of Americans have no true understanding of their roots.
Same way the fourteenth amendment is being perverted now with these illegal intruders. Context and timing means everything.
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01-09-2016 05:34 PM  4 years ago
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well said.... both of you.
It just amazes me that the "radicals" of yesteryear were always fighting the man. Now, that same group of people has flopped to the other side, and in a lot of ways, conservatives have flipped as well.
I find it really intriguing to see the shift in the political leanings of the people over the last 50 years or so and the way they view their government.
If I had to pinpoint a moment in time, it would be the day LBJ took the oath. Nothing has been the same since.
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