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12-25-2015 02:39 PM  3 years ago
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icanfly

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Crashing Your Heli Is A Beautiful Thing,
ever crash your heli and when rebuilding or replacing you actually end up IMPROVING the heli? This is a grand luxury the rc heli fans have that fs cannot, the ability to rebuild.

Imagine however that if you didn't crash then technology would stagnate, that's because you would be content with what you have and not seek room for improvement, this is how all objects of interest become better, BY DESTRUCTION. Call it a metamorphosis of iteration when you take your heli, smack it to bits and find yourself looking for a better heli, looking for a "rescue mode" gyro, looking to somehow lesson the damage from impact by learning to auto rotate better, by looking for a heli that doesn't come flawed from the factory like one that "performs" better, and /or you spend more money on "UPGRADE" parts than buy into the same old cheap ship originals.

After a crash who hasn't blamed the electronics or loctite or blades or belt or bearings or canopy color against the backdrop or some other nuisance like esc failure, motor/pinion issues, or whatever. You know when you crash it's an opportunity for IMPROVEMENT. Embrace it, love it, enjoy it, inspire it for the every very special moment it is, it doesn't come but only once in the moment, lol, sing WHOORAY alleluyah Jesus, it'll be good,,,,,,,,,,promise.

Out of the many small wrecks my rc helis endured flying in close proximity to solid objects in my back yard flight space it has only given me an opportunity to change and improve my helis,the result quite phenomenal compared to when they were first acquired, an Al450se, a Blade300, my Hirobo Shuttle (which has crashed but at a large field, back yard involvement limited severely to hover tests). Last time my 550 took a nose dive after an over speed where the gyro reset from too many vibes so what did I do? I replaced all the main bearings and straightened a slightly bent main shaft and am designing a new canopy while I rebuilt the internal front end making it BETTER.

My se 450 got a very nice experimental boom a few days ago when I took off the old strut type boom. In so making my se strutless I discovered a sensitivity to tail blade imbalance and the tail vibe'd badly upon spool up. What I did was balance the tail blades after reasoning the boom mod could not be the problem, main blade balance was off but I still got the tail to behave perfectly after balancing the blades by less than a half gram. The main blades were off balance by 2 grams and only affected the gyro with some blade wobble on feedback. The original boom was fine, didn't need no changing nor improobment, but man does it look and perform fantastic now. The new boom was a carry over from a 450ttprodfc stretch I did with 360mmblades last year, AND CRASHED IT. I should explain the first boom made was a little messy so I spent extra attention to detail the next one. The first example was to test a theory and structure so the next version went a little further overboard in design, the first mistake costing ten bucks but what's that compared to 6 billion lbs of food waste the USA throws out (every day? week? month? what? a LOT) never mind the MILLIONS of dollars of scrap/waste/byproduct thrown out EVERY DAY.

The 450 single strutless boom? awesome. There's only two things original on my 450se, the two upper frames. All else has been changed with IMPROVEMENTS and usually after a crash, most always after crashing, except the boom. I'm the kind of person who can "scratch buid" lots of things, not one cm2 is original except the upper se frames and I'd like to build new ones soon, those are next.

so there you have it CRASHING IS GOOD,,,,,,,,,,,,,hehe, go on, you know what to do,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,.caution to the wind uhuh.
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12-25-2015 06:02 PM  3 years ago
Old Swashplate

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I Concur!
As crazy as it sounds I really enjoy working on my heli. At first I always got upset after crashing but it didn't take long before I realized I almost always improved my heli in some way. While it's much more fun flying I always enjoy working on my heli.....

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12-25-2015 07:16 PM  3 years ago
artimus

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I have always said that a crash is an opportunity to upgrade.

So with that said happy hard landings.....
Fly Hard......Team Viagra
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12-26-2015 04:39 PM  3 years ago
Aaron29

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Life, lemons, lemonade
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12-26-2015 06:58 PM  3 years ago
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With my Goblins it is not as much about adding improved parts, but taking preventative measures. After I demolished my 570 about 6 months ago, I switched to Futaba radios for dependability. I also bought vbar Neo units with rescue for both of my helicopters. The rescue was one improvement that has saved me a lot of money and time.

On my radio, I had to change the switch configuration for motor off after I accidentally killed the motor hitting rescue. After I had a tip over and was still in idle doing a slow motion chicken dance, I made one of the sliders an emergency motor stop. I also added mah usage telemetry, so I don't accidentally plug in a discharged pack.
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12-27-2015 03:20 PM  3 years ago
icanfly

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preventative measures
exactly what this was all about. My own improvements include not ruining a head and grip set with an improvement, an additional item, examining and tightening up any servo and ball link play as much as doable especially tail slider crank, new bearings after the grip bearings wear due to crashing and vibes (how they deteriorate quickly afterward), then some lower frame improvement on my se where the base from a prov2 was adapted and a section added just below and parallel to the main gear, etc. Since switching to a helical cut gear I haven't changed but one out in 2 years of flying the one 450se, instant and lightning quick decision making responsible in large part. Then there are tail mods, nose/canopy ones, skids that will NEVER EVER break, ever, my own blade designs with focus on re-enforcement of areas most likely to crack (there were common locations in many broken pairs and they were redone with more material, crashed and for the most part held together better than before without adding but a few extra grams here and there), and more things of this nature.

Regarding mods to my tx they include chopped down switches, cut to half length and capped with a urethane end nib as well as going as short as possible on the main sticks and getting used to it, quick micro adjustments and re-center were the heli is supposed to be.

Much of what has been managed mod wise is to mitigate crash damage while many little improvements have lead to incremental benefits in overall performance. It's been an inspiring personal tangle with rc helis to date, now to make a "normal" one and keep at f3c/3d and throw an ultra light scale looking body just for fun, I'm not the only one with that angle in mind.

Much of my 450se's crashes 2 years ago were due to static and wire to cf contact issues I chased from it much too late, probably cost me 2 450 helis by time it was done with.

Wonder what the grand point is? How many guys would love to crash? and then be able to pick the heli up and either fly again right away or swap a few parts and be back in the air right away? answer,
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