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12-22-2015 02:47 AM  3 years ago
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airmontBill

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castle Talon 90 and Ikon
I need a little help from someone out there that is more educated on these issues than I am.

I just set my Talon 90 endpoints on my DX8 radio. I also set the Talon 90 up in governor model.

When I go in to the Ikon setup menu, it directs me to adjust my throttle endpoints based on what I am seeing on the setup guide. Do I touch my throttle settings in the DX8 or leave them alone since they have already been adjusted so that the Talon 90 knows the high and low ends?

Any help with this would be well appreciated as the Ikon directions are not very good to say the least and I haven't been able to find anything online to help me through this.
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12-22-2015 04:23 AM  3 years ago
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If you are using the governor in the Talon Set your transmitter end points so you get 100% high and low in the iKon setup (believe it was 134 endpoint in my DX18) and then set the iKon throttle points at 1073 for the low and 1970 for the high and all should be perfect.
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12-22-2015 12:08 PM  3 years ago
airmontBill

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Still struggling with getting this right. When I set the high and low end points in the Talon 90, I'm showing numbers like 115 or so on the DX8. When I go in to the IKON, I need to move these up to 130 or more to get the IKON throttle to show 0 to 100% in the wizard. I haven't field tested it yet but doesn't this mess up the Talon?
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12-22-2015 04:10 PM  3 years ago
pctomlin

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The iKon will output the throttle signal according to the input from the transmitter. The Talon doesn't care who sends it. In Castle governor mode zero throttle signal is 1100 and 100% throttle is 1900. Just like Castle video that tells you to go a couple of more clicks after getting high and low settings from the transmitter, that is where the 1073 (lower than 1100) and 1970 (higher than 1900) come from in the iKon settings. The iKon is a little bit different because it does not send the throttle signal straight through to the ESC like some other FBL controllers do. Part of the iKon governor setup whether you use the internal governor or not.
Hope this helps to clear things up.
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12-22-2015 07:59 PM  3 years ago
airmontBill

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I think it is becoming a little clearer and I'll go on the bench tonight and try to finalize the setup with the Ikon and transmitter set up to 0 and 100% on the Ikon wizard leaving the governor control with the Talon.

So let me try and explain the logic back to you.

(1) Castle has low end ( zero output to motor ) and high end (100 % output to motor ). When I use the wizard, I'm adjusting the Ikon so that it outputs the 100% end when my transmitter is up at full throttle and 0% when the transmitter is a low end of throttle.

Question 2 - Talon governor tells me to use 30%, 70% and 100% for the RPM settings that I am choosing. Ikon governors use 40%, 60% and 100% outputs. Since I'm using the Talon governor, I stay with 30%, 70% and 100% and ignore the Ikon numbers. Is that correct?

Also thanks for helping.
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12-22-2015 09:11 PM  3 years ago
pctomlin

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(1) Castle has low end ( zero output to motor ) and high end (100 % output to motor ). When I use the wizard, I'm adjusting the Ikon so that it outputs the 100% end when my transmitter is up at full throttle and 0% when the transmitter is a low end of throttle.
Question 2 - Talon governor tells me to use 30%, 70% and 100% for the RPM settings that I am choosing. Ikon governors use 40%, 60% and 100% outputs. Since I'm using the Talon governor, I stay with 30%, 70% and 100% and ignore the Ikon numbers. Is that correct?
Question 1: yes, you are adjusting the iKon to output the throttle signal to the ESC. Set low at 1073 and high at 1970 and you are good to go in Castle governor mode.

Question 2: stay with the Castle numbers for the throttle curves in the transmitter. In the iKon bank settings (tab 10?) do not check the governor box in any of the banks so it will use the Castle governor. You may want to eventually make the transition to the iKon internal governor, works great and has an excellent built in soft start function.
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12-22-2015 11:26 PM  3 years ago
airmontBill

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Thanks again. I'll finish the setup in the Castle this PM. In going through this, it does appear it may have been easier just to set it up in the Ikon. The reason that I didn't was that in parallel I'm changing over a few other heli's to governor mode and they have AR7200 flybarless's on them so the only choice is to have the Castle governor. Will be raining here so I won't be able to test this out until Thursday.
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12-23-2015 01:27 AM  3 years ago
airmontBill

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OK. All set up and it seems to work. I ran the motor through the 3 positions (N, 1, 2) with the blades off and there was a clear difference in the motor speeds. So I'll let you know after the rain ends hear in NY.

Thanks again. Learned a lot this past week setting up the Talon with both AR7200 and Ikon.
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12-23-2015 01:58 AM  3 years ago
pctomlin

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Glad you were able to get all things sorted out and setup. Have fun.
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