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12-24-2015 04:31 PM  3 years ago
revmix

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why not
sure can; upgraded lighter version
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12-24-2015 05:11 PM  3 years ago
Aaron29

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EE - nope. Did you?
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12-24-2015 06:01 PM  3 years ago
wrongler

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I would rather use PP to pay if I do register! I wonder if that can be arranged?Bill Whittaker
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12-25-2015 01:37 AM  3 years ago
Aaron29

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That'd go along way to un ruffling feathers. The cc requirement is nuts.
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12-25-2015 01:45 AM  3 years ago
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maybe we all should stop by Droneflyers and thank them.lol RIGHT. I think only drones that can fly by gps and way points needs the rules. FAA needs to back of the good guys, Maybe the AMA needs to point that out. The other day I was talking on the phone to a blade dealer. He said a 350 qx could make it up to 1000 ft. But would not have the battery power to make it back safly, So why one any one want to lose one.. Its just the nuts who are doing this. Go after the, and Let us good guy, have fun with no FAA. we have AMA they have your info.

I think our name and info, needs to stay prv.
FAA need to hunt down the bads guys not us

ps you all have fun. I'm going flying
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12-28-2015 09:39 AM  3 years ago
dialarotor

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FAA now educating law enforcement to get us
http://www.faa.gov/uas/law_enforcem...idance_card.pdf
RapRexSynLogo Pilot
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12-28-2015 05:54 PM  3 years ago
raholek

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LEO and UAS
So now LEO takes direction from the FAA??? The guys are out of control.
www.redstickrc.net ama#: 968515
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12-28-2015 06:05 PM  3 years ago
jschenck

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AMA email just sent out Dec 28th - :
The AMA has recommended that our members hold off on registering their model aircraft with the FAA until advised by the AMA or until the FAA's legal deadline of February 19. Holding off on registration will allow time for AMA to fully consider all possible legal and political options for alleviating this unnecessary regulatory burden on our members.
In the meantime, you can help by making your voice heard with the FAA. Specifically we are asking all AMA members to submit comments on the FAA's interim rule on registration. The deadline to submit comments is January 15, 2016. All comments can be submitted at http://1.usa.gov/1Jegj0C.
Below are recommended messages to convey in your comments:
Express your disappointment with the registration rule. As a member of the Academy of Model Aeronautics (AMA), I am disappointed with the new rule for UAS registration. I am a long time model aircraft flyer, who has operated under the guidance of the largest community-based organization (CBO) in the world for many years.

Highlight AMA's history and safety record. Since 1936, AMA has published safety standards and offered training programs for our members - more than 20 years before the FAA was created. Our National Model Aircraft Safety Code has been recognized by Congress as well as by state legislatures as a safe and effective means of managing model aircraft enthusiasts like me
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Note that you already register with AMA. Additionally, AMA's safety program already instructs me to place my AMA number or name and address on or within my model aircraft(s), effectively accomplishing the safety and accountability objectives of the interim rule.

Make it clear this rule is contrary to the intent of Congress. The new rule is contrary to the intent of Congress in Section 336 of the 2012 FAA Modernization and Reform Act. Section 336, also referred to as the "Special Rule for Model Aircraft," clearly prohibits the FAA from promulgating any new rules for recreational users operating within the safety guidelines of a CBO. In addition, the FAA's contention that model aircraft should be considered aircraft is currently the subject of pending litigation.

Affirm that as an AMA member you should be exempt from federal registration. The registration process is an unnecessary burden for me and the more than 185,000 other AMA members. AMA members should not be required to register with the FAA.

Thank you,
AMA Government and Regulatory Affairs Team
amagov@modeliarcraft.org
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12-28-2015 06:42 PM  3 years ago
jschenck

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Here is what I wrote as a response and posted on the FAA comments website:
I have been flying R/C aircraft for over 30 years, most of my life. Requiring me to register with the FAA and threats of $27,000 fines is an absurd and pointless over reaction to the concerns of the new generation of quad copter "drones".

Please exempt all model aircraft that are properly registered with the "Academy of Model Aeronautics" e.g. the AMA

1. This registration requirement that appears to be in direct conflict with section 336 of the "FAA Modernization and Reform Act of 2012". Can the FAA please clarify how the new "requirement" for registering does not violate this existing law?

2. I *already* register myself as a model aircraft pilot - AMA number should be in the aircraft we active members fly. If the FAA wants to identify a legitimately registered model aircraft because of some incident, a simple subpoena to the AMA would get that information.

The FAA does not need a completely separate way to register and track my information above any beyond the AMA.

3. Since 1936, AMA has published safety standards and offered training programs for our members - more than 20 years before the FAA was created. Our National Model Aircraft Safety Code has been recognized by Congress as well as by state legislatures as a safe and effective means of managing model aircraft enthusiasts like me
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12-28-2015 07:14 PM  3 years ago
wrongler

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Maybe I all make a copy of your letter (change a few things) and send it in.
I have already voiced my opinion once.
Another letter can't hurt!
Bill Whittaker
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12-28-2015 07:51 PM  3 years ago
Stephen Born

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12-28-2015 07:52 PM  3 years ago
TMoore

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IMHO, we all might be better served if you were to forego the FAA comment site as it will do little good and just forward that to your Congressman or Senator. That's what I did and I also requested that they contact every other Representative in the state and the Senators so as to include everyone in Congress. In my case I made it personal as all the Congressman and Senators in TN voted for the 2012 Bill. Congressman Cohen in Memphis was a co-sponsor of the bill and I wanted to make it personal to them because this is such a power grab by the FAA.Delayed Response Operator Not Engaged
AMA SECTION 336 = Gone, replaced by the FAA
Drones = EVIL
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12-28-2015 09:59 PM  3 years ago
jschenck

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sent this to my senator:
Hi Senator Fisher,

I have been flying R/C aircraft for over 30 years, most of my adult life.

I have a few concerns with the newly established requirement by the FAA to register with the FAA in order to continue with my R/C hobby. Some of my concerns are outlined:

Requiring me to register with the FAA and threats of $27,000 fines is an absurd and pointless over reaction to the concerns of the new generation of quad copter "drones".

1. This registration requirement that appears to be in direct conflict with section 336 of the "FAA Modernization and Reform Act of 2012". Can the FAA please clarify how the new "requirement" for registering does not violate this existing law?

2. I *already* register myself as a model aircraft pilot - AMA number should be in the aircraft we active members fly. If the FAA wants to identify a legitimately registered model aircraft because of some incident, a simple subpoena to the AMA would get that information.
The FAA does not need a completely separate way to register and track my information above any beyond the AMA.

3. Since 1936, AMA has published safety standards and offered training programs for our members - more than 20 years before the FAA was created. Our National Model Aircraft Safety Code has been recognized by Congress as well as by state legislatures as a safe and effective means of managing model aircraft enthusiasts like me

4. The FAA does NOT require any registration for PART 103 Ultra-light aircraft - but the exact same aircraft in model form and weighing 1 pound IS required to register. - THIS does not make sense!

5. A $27,000 fine and criminalizing participation in the radio control airplane hobby will not make our airspace any safer but will detract from a great hobby. A father buying a toy for his kid could turn into a nightmare for the family.

thank you for the time and consideration.

I would ask that you contact your colleagues in the senate and congress to reconsider the FAA requirement. Please exempt all model aircraft that are properly registered with the "Academy of Model Aeronautics" e.g. the AMA
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12-31-2015 12:29 PM  3 years ago
Fall2Fast

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Aircraft search
Have any of you seen this, or tried searching yet?
http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinq...ef_Inquiry.aspx

you can go to this link, just type in a model manufacturer's name and see what pops up. DJI has quite a few registered pilots, there are only a few for Align, I didn't really search for much more.
Anyhow this will give you an idea what information is actually available to just anyone out there. I'm also sure there are other ways to search on the site.

Closing thoughts... this could get out of control, if they give local law enforcement control and you get a drone hating cop and judge on you, it's going to cost a lot of money.
Me personally, I have only met nice people when I fly in the park. I sure hope this wonderful hobby does not get ruined by ignorant and closed minded people. I too will send in some more letters that I seen posted here.
if you see the pilot running....try to keep up!
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12-31-2015 01:01 PM  3 years ago
banshee rider

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After looking thru that link
I find it hard to think 45000 people registered
ageing is manditory maturity is optional
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12-31-2015 01:08 PM  3 years ago
Mike0251

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You can also type in a last name of whatever you choose (under name right side), see the list, pick on the N number, and get their address.
Or you can enter DJI and still pick on links as well to see addresses too.
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12-31-2015 01:45 PM  3 years ago
revmix

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public record
the type & model info is for sUAS/aircraft registered for commercial purpose
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12-31-2015 02:24 PM  3 years ago
1helimech

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Revmix will you ever stop defending the indefensible ?

PS,
Still praying for ya thou....
I dream of a better world, A world where a chicken's crossing a road IS NOT questioned
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12-31-2015 03:17 PM  3 years ago
revmix

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model is not listed in the hobby-registration, only the r/c player's info
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12-31-2015 04:43 PM  3 years ago
TMoore

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Rev doesn't add to the conversation and it's hard to tell what side he's actually on. His comments add to the noise floor like static on an old TV set when the TX wasn't on.Delayed Response Operator Not Engaged
AMA SECTION 336 = Gone, replaced by the FAA
Drones = EVIL
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