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12-12-2015 02:00 PM  35 months agoPost 1
Pitchpump

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Just for fun and informational purposes. Lets start a thread. If you could only pick 1 heli to keep to fly where ever.parks.small field big field.... what would it be. When deciding take the following into consideration
Flying space
Performance.
Ease of use
Maintience
Cost or repair and ease of repair

I think mine would be a logo 480 or gaui x3

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12-12-2015 02:45 PM  35 months agoPost 2
TattooArtist

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Gaui NX4

Team Synergy ,RcRcc,

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12-12-2015 03:06 PM  35 months agoPost 3
prototype3a

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Logo 550. Single pack convenience, low or high headspeed, mild to wild.

~Drew

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12-12-2015 04:00 PM  35 months agoPost 4
rpat

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Weirton, W. Va.

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Logo 500 all the heli you could ever want.

trex 700fbl cal30,minititan,, trx600fbl,trex250,logo 500,Velocity N2

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12-12-2015 04:47 PM  35 months agoPost 5
McCrasher

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Ventura, Ca, USA

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Logo 500
Prôtos 500

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12-12-2015 04:54 PM  35 months agoPost 6
gcm2

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Ft Worth, TX

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The one I take out every time, unless it's been crashed and I'm waiting on inexpensive parts, as I am right now : DT520e

TREX 700e, Goblins 500 & 570, DT520e, Gaui X3, Synergy E5

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12-12-2015 05:38 PM  35 months agoPost 7
Aaron29

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USA

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Honestly, you lost me at park flying. By including that, you cut out every decent heli. No way I'm taking a Logo 480 to the park. That's unsafe. And then smaller than that, they don't fly as well.

I'll fly a Logo 600 at a field and pass all parks along the way. Or maybe I'll find some unused land. But not a park. Once it's a park, you'd need like a Blade 130 to be realistically safe, and that's such a lesser model than a 600 that I wouldn't bother.

I guess my issue is you want it to do everything. There's a reason we have everything from 130s up to 700's or bigger. Nothing is suitable for all flying you can come up with.

Sorry for the BS answer, here. But you asked a BS question.

I'd say Logo 600 is my favorite, but find a suitable field.

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12-12-2015 05:41 PM  35 months agoPost 8
Pitchpump

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Not bs at all
And i disagree. Guess your parks are living room sized. All mine are multiple ball field sized and have flown 700s in them with no issues.

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12-12-2015 05:43 PM  35 months agoPost 9
Aaron29

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Disagree all you want, but please let me know which park that is so I can steer everyone I love away from it.

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12-12-2015 05:45 PM  35 months agoPost 10
prototype3a

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I think 'park flying' depends on your definition of a park. There are some parks around where I live that are barely big enough for a picnic table but there are others that must be 10+ acres.

I think the 550 size is a good medium sized heli. The fact you can share packs with a 700 just makes it even better. I was thinking earlier that the 550se is a good option as well if you have 550s and 600s for it. Swap blades and drop a few teeth on the pinion and you suddenly have a very different flying lower headspeed 600.

~Drew

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12-12-2015 05:46 PM  35 months agoPost 11
Aaron29

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Sorry but a 700 is a known killer. We've lost a few guys to them. Anyone who tries to justify flying this in a public park is just throwing caution to the wind.

The drone phenomenon is hurting our hobby enough. A fatality at a park? I'm going to do anything I can to avoid that.

We already had that one unsuspecting girl carved up at a park by what was likely just a 450. If you recall that one.

This isn't a park hobby, dudes.

So, if I have to answer within the constraints of the original post, I guess it's Blade 130X.

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12-12-2015 06:33 PM  35 months agoPost 12
1helimech

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Synergy N5c parks excluded cuz I need lotza room and NO eye witnesses

I dream of a better world, A world where a chicken's crossing a road IS NOT questioned

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12-12-2015 07:16 PM  35 months agoPost 13
banshee rider

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Phoenix AZ.

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this question is to easy

T rex 700 gas conversion

fuel fly for 12 minutes
refuel repeat

so reliable just have to wipe it down when done

no muss no fuss no charger no generator
no messy glow fuel to clean off

will do any type of 3D flying
just not as fast doing pitch pump maneuvers
weight and lack of extreme power will make a person a better pilot
not as easy to cover up a screw up

get T rex parts almost any where

fly at local club field

ageing is manditory maturity is optional

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12-12-2015 08:03 PM  35 months agoPost 14
artimus

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Buckley WA

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Synergy E7...No wait ...my Gobin 500.....no wait.....my Trex700E.....oh man dont make me pick one.....
The op states at parks ,small field or large or where ever. Not just parks.
I fly at a State Park.....Flaming Gyeser State Park..... complete with AMA sanctioned flying field. So you can fly at a park safely. But we dont fly near the picnic area either. Not all parks are the same.

Fly Hard......Team Viagra

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12-12-2015 08:13 PM  35 months agoPost 15
Heli Fanatix

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I would have to agree with Aaron on few of the topics. Such as flying at a park. It's not the size of the park but the reclusiveness of it. If it has more than one person (in close proximity) other than yourself or fellow pilot, it's too many. We are responsible for each person and everything when we lift off. I say one mile away from anyone is good. If you must fly at a park, a 130X is good ... 180CFX is the biggest I'ld go, but they don't fly as well as the bigger birds along with the up keep horrors.

This has been a topic I have been mapping out in my head for a very long time. I have several locations I can fly at within 12 miles:
- school yards
- school yard connecting to a neighborhood park
- park about the size of 4 soccer fields
- river bed that has a 30' drop and 200' x miles either side
- vacant dirt field a square mile (this is where is fly mostly)

I have amast a collection of heli from 130X ~ Logo 700 XXtreme with all the sizes in between. I made a chart outlining each flying site's pro's and con's regarding:
- biggest heli to fly in the area alotted while being safe
- what types of maneuvers that heli can do

But it was only after I did an experiment and concluded the project that I was able to find my answer.
I did not fly for 1 month
- Not picking up a TX
- No actual flying
- I did SIM maybe 3 times throughout for no more than 5 mins each session

I understand some folks can't fly for 3-4 months b/c of weather. But if that was the case, they can't fly anywhere period. It's almost sunny all year long, so the temptation to fly anywhere is more for me. You can modify the time frame to maybe 2 or 3 weeks, see how it does for you. I'm personally gonna try to shoot for 6 weeks.

I was able to fly with no issues. If I had warm up, it would be easier but I wanted to see if there was any regression. So I did not warm up, went straight to my routine:
- autorotations (tail in / nose in / inverted to tail in)
- funnel figure 8's (all orientations)
- traveling pirouette figure 8's (all orientations)
- pirouetting flips both directions
- pirouetting tic tocs skid in and out

These are intensive maneuvers but I was able to execute them like I normally do. All within 4 packs on my go to Heli:

Logo 500SE
- 6S
- 603mm FB
- 2100~2350 HS
- boom to 25mm
- aluminum tail box with existing CF fins
- Logo 600 canopy
- Logo 500 blade grips
- Battery tray system on v1 frame for good CG for any pack size

After this, I concluded:
- if you can manage to fly a month apart
- you can refrain from fly @ the small school fields and parks
- make the pilgrimage to the heli meca field
- will reinvigorate your drive for flying (if it's on the decline)
- don't have to fly the smaller heli's just accommendate the situation
- don't have to worry about the frustration associated with the small birds
- people, people walking their pets, onlookers asking questions while you fly

So my all time favorite heli to Rule them all is the Logo 500SE since it will swing 600mm on 6S.
- Easy on packs
- Single pack convenience
- will share packs with your 600 and 700
- great for keeping your collective management

I fly my Logo with 6S 3700mah ~ 6S 5500mah. They all work! With the 600 canopy, great visibility and auto's terrific as well.

Another thing I want to point out is autorotations, I do them every time I go fly. Sometimes a pack full of auto's. I'm planning on fly my gassers and it could mean the difference from a $50 crash vs a rekit. I practice all types of auto's...:
- while inverted to upright nose in or tail in
- inverted full collective punch out
- hurricanes
- tic toc (tail or nose down while skid in or out)
- situations that may cause a motor to flame out or shut down

This would dictate the size heli you would fly while practicing. I would say a 550 with 520mm would be the smallest I can auto. I'm sure folks can auto 450's and I've even seen 130X. So there is no way I would auto at a park, areas with obstacles or that's populated. I hit the only tree once doing an auto and the back of my bumper in a big empty parking lot all by myself.

To be truthful, I can turn my HS down to 2000 and fly my Logo 500SE in a small park or an area small as 100x100, do my whole routine will full control; slow or fast, but it's not the place or worth the risk.

Of course you can fly a 450 ~ 480 at place in population ... But it's a gamble.
130X - it'll leave a mark but you will live
450 - you'll be injured (I heard of a guy that went to the same LSH that got hit in the face but flew the next day after stitches in hospital)
500 - you will be in the emergency room
550 and up - you are done

Every decision is full of compromises and consequences. Do the evaluation to make an informed decision. So in the end, no drama since you made a bad choice.

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12-12-2015 08:41 PM  35 months agoPost 16
Pitchpump

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My parks are not your typical full of people and trees parks. They are township fields that are occasionally used for soccer.and when they are i dont fly.im not dumb. My closest real ama field is hour away. And im not driving a hour if i want to get a flight in after work.

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12-12-2015 08:46 PM  35 months agoPost 17
ticedoff8

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Anytime I think "Park", "Soccer Field", "Softball Complex", I also think "People", "Kids", "Dogs".

IMHO: "Heli > MCPx" + "Park" = "Stupid".

I fly my Trex 450 Pro at the local High School - but only when I am the only one there (which is rare).

I fly my 600N, 600E & 700N at large fields with no houses or neighborhoods around.

Back in the day, I used to fly 2m & 3m gliders out of a High School surrounded by a neighborhood.
That is, until the flight pack battery died and my F3B ship came down like a spear and punched through the roof of a parked truck.

Sh!t happens. And, it happens quick.

In answer to the OP:
I keep my Trex 450 Pro with Speed Fuse and 4 or 5 fully charged packs in the back of the car - just in case I see an opportunity to fly at lunch.
Parts are cheap and easy to find parts for.
It is almost maintenance free and stands up to flight after flight.

Believe 1/2 of what you see and none of what you hear.
Fake News will be the downfall of our Republic!

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12-12-2015 08:52 PM  35 months agoPost 18
ticedoff8

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My parks are not your typical full of people and trees parks. They are township fields that are occasionally used for soccer.and when they are i dont fly.im not dumb. My closest real ama field is hour away. And im not driving a hour if i want to get a flight in after work.
I don't know you.

I assume people that fly their RC stuff around unsuspecting / non-RC people are dumb.

If you won't drive 1 hour to get to a decent flying site, then you may be temped to do something dumb.

I used to be dumb.
When it comes to RC: not so much now.

Believe 1/2 of what you see and none of what you hear.
Fake News will be the downfall of our Republic!

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12-12-2015 10:19 PM  35 months agoPost 19
jharkin

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Holliston, MA - USA

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his question is to easy

T rex 700 gas conversion

fuel fly for 12 minutes
refuel repeat

so reliable just have to wipe it down when done
Bingo... yet I manage to get 25 minutes on a tank on mine (do you have a small tank??)

Actually if I could only keep one I probably would keep the Whiplash Gas, especially when the new OWB design is out. Id have to swap over the 300 motor to it however

(I do not fly at public parks, ever)

-Jeremy
Whiplash-G
Helix 700G
T-Rex 450 fbl conversion
alot of planks

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12-12-2015 11:41 PM  35 months agoPost 20
Pitchpump

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Still everyone over looks the part where i say its not a play park. Its fields thats it. No houses. No play ground no roads close so i think the "dumb" and "stupid" comments are a little un called for. I also said when there are people there i dont fly.

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