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12-07-2015 04:04 PM  35 months agoPost 1
wc_wickedclown (RIP)

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Insha Allah made in america

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12-08-2015 03:55 AM  35 months agoPost 2
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You never fly a flag above another. They can be equal height. But anything else is actually a symbol. DO NOT MISTAKE what the message is. It is a message of domination to fly a flag over another.

International usage forbids the display of the flag of one nation above that of another nation in time of peace.

Think about that.

Had it ONLY been the Mexican flag on that pole, or if there were two poles and two flags at equal height, the vet would have been completely wrong in desecrating the Mexican flag. But the way this was flown, if you speak flag, was a provocative statement. Being provocative, the vet response was understandable.

Still, one must ask, was the store owner questioned about this before just hacking away and tossing the Mexican flag on the ground? That isn't right either. Address it with words. If he refused to act, then I could see harsh measures. There wasn't much to go on in the video. After the incident the store owner said on the phone that he didn't know. If that is true, the vet kinda went nuts. On the other hand, if there had been words prior, "hey you need to fly them equal height" and the store owner gave the finger, I could understand the vet's actions.

If the store owner lied to those reporters and was told to remove or fly it the right way, and refused, it would be extremely ballsy. Who among you would have the guts to try this in any other nation in the world? Would you try to fly the USA flag above a native country's? Hmm? Now consider the bravado and attitude it would take to do that.

Now consider what we saw on the video. Which scenario is more believable, the extremely aloof on camera owner accidentally flew the flag wrong, or the extremely aloof on camera store owner was secretly of the bravado it would take to refuse a request to fly it properly? Unless my eyes deceive, I think the extremely aloof store owner didn't know, because he was shocked and submissive at the assault on his flag. He didn't confront. So it seems the vet probably went nuts without giving this store owner a chance. I'm a vet myself, so I don't like what it appears happened. A vet bullied a foreigner for a simple mistake. This is America. We have people from many many nations. We have to live together, no reason to alienate unnecessarily. I think a simple conversation would have fixed this issue.

If there is any information condemning the shop owner, I might change my mind, but I think given what we see and know, the vet just took it too far.

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12-08-2015 04:59 AM  35 months agoPost 3
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I never knew this wonder was that owner cited bet he didn't get fined or anything.

Insha Allah made in america

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12-08-2015 05:03 AM  35 months agoPost 4
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Pretty sure international flag etiquette is not "law."

The only laws we for sure saw broken were theft and destruction of property. Arguably aggravated due to the knife.

More evidence that the store owner just made a mistake is we never heard him bring charges against the vet.

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12-08-2015 05:04 AM  35 months agoPost 5
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That vid is at least 5 years old.

Possibly more.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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12-08-2015 05:06 AM  35 months agoPost 6
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Derp

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12-08-2015 08:00 AM  35 months agoPost 7
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Yep, that video is few years old. The store owner admitted to flying the Mexican flag at the top to support the mexican community.

Really? The mexican community is in the US. No excuse. The vet did the right thing....

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12-08-2015 08:42 PM  35 months agoPost 8
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Our Flag
Not everybody among us is a Patriot. I didn't want to call you out but there is a consise set of rules and regulations on how
the flag may be displayed.
No forign flag may fly over the US flag on her own soil. Its right here in the internet.
Junkpilot

When you fly JUNK it's hard to tell when you've crashed!

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12-09-2015 02:23 AM  35 months agoPost 9
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The owner didn't know the rules of the game
, but that vet was somewhat rude as far as I can see
He could've gotten himself hurt over BS.

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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12-09-2015 06:04 PM  35 months agoPost 10
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12-10-2015 03:56 PM  35 months agoPost 11
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lol yep good vid

Insha Allah made in america

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12-10-2015 04:21 PM  35 months agoPost 12
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Yes, gender, race, and nationality. These are HANDED to you at birth.

I like the part where he says you can be HAPPY to be American, but not PROUD. That's how I feel. I love being an American. I love my country. I fought for it because I believe it's the best country in the world. But I did nothing to earn my citizenship. It's impossible to be PROUD of something handed to you.

I am PROUD of the forefathers for having the vision and balls to create this nation. I'm proud of the progeny that righted the wrongs that weren't initially addressed. I hold absolutely no familiar relation to these "fathers" but as men that came before me and paved the way, I can say that I am PROUD of them for their humanity and intelligence and bravery.

Be PROUD of what you do. Not who you are.

As to what's handed to you, BE NOT PROUD. BE THANKFUL.

To GOD for having given me by birth conditions. It's impossible to be PROUD of what GOD gave me at birth. He gave me health, birth in a prosperous nation, to flawed but loving and capable parents. I have life, love, health. These are GOD's gifts to me. Nothing I can be PROUD of. In fact, being PROUD of these things takes from GOD. Praise Him for what He gave you, not yourself.

What you do after you are born, that's what you can take PRIDE in. Did you build business, save people, support causes, create? THOSE are things to take PRIDE in. But even then, I praise God for giving me the talents and conditions to be able accomplish these things. Talents are still a GIFT.

Carlin was hilarious. But he also had some philosophy in there. He was irreverent as hell and funny. In the beginning, he was corny, in the middle, he was crass, in the end, he was a philosophical granddaddy type. LOL. Watch old videos and you see his transformation.

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12-10-2015 05:19 PM  35 months agoPost 13
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What if someone calmly explained it to the shop owner, and asked him to reverse the flags order. I bet he did not even realize his mistake, and would have done it.

If he would have refused, then get out the knife.

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12-10-2015 05:25 PM  35 months agoPost 14
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That's what I was saying earlier. I doubt any approach was made and this was jumping the gun. The video shows a submissive, not defiant, shop owner.

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12-17-2015 03:09 PM  35 months agoPost 15
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I don't think they can be at equal heights. I think what country you are in that flag is higher then then the rest. So if you are in USA the American flag is higher then the rest. So with the video the guy is correct. The American flag should of been on top then the other could be flown below since this was in the United States.

Now flying the American flag upside down is not being disgracing the flag. It mean in trouble / distress signal. Which the US is.

Being a Vet like myself I would of done the same thing. I treasure this land and freedom ( what we have left).

Maybe we need Trump to wake up some of the people here!!

Dan

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