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11-27-2015 06:25 AM  34 months agoPost 1
Lotus7

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I HOPE THIS CLEARS UP ANY CONFUSION YOU MAY HAVE...
A highly restricted briefing document on Syria....
President Assad (who is bad ) is a nasty guy who got so nasty his people rebelled and the Rebels ( who are good ) started winning (hurrah!).
But then some of the rebels turned a bit nasty and are now called Islamic State ( who are definitely bad!) and some continued to support democracy (who are still good.) So the Americans ( who are good ) started bombing Islamic State ( who are bad ) and giving arms to the Syrian Rebels ( who are good ) so they could fight Assad ( who is still bad ) which was good.
By the way, there is a breakaway state in the north run by the Kurds who want to fight IS ( which is a good thing ) but the Turkish authorities think they are bad, so we have to say they are bad whilst secretly thinking they're good and giving them guns to fight IS (which is good) but that is another matter.
Getting back to Syria.
So President Putin ( who is bad, cos he invaded Crimea and the Ukraine and killed lots of folks including that nice Russian man in London with polonium poisoned sushi ) has decided to back Assad ( who is still bad ) by attacking IS ( who are also bad ) which is sort of a good thing?
But Putin ( still bad ) thinks the Syrian Rebels ( who are good ) are also bad, and so he bombs them too, much to the annoyance of the Americans ( who are good ) who are busy backing and arming the rebels ( who are also good).
Now Iran ( who used to be bad, but now they have agreed not to build any nuclear weapons and bomb Israel are now good ) are going to provide ground troops to support Assad ( still bad ) as are the Russians ( bad ) who now have ground troops and aircraft in Syria.
So a Coalition of Assad ( still bad ) Putin ( extra bad ) and the Iranians (good, but in a bad sort of way ) are going to attack IS ( who are bad ) which is a good thing, but also the Syrian Rebels ( who are good ) which is bad.
Now the British ( obviously good, except that nice Mr Corbyn in the corduroy jacket, who is probably bad ) and the Americans ( also good ) cannot attack Assad ( still bad) for fear of upsetting Putin ( bad ) and Iran ( good /bad) and now they have to accept that Assad might not be that bad after all compared to IS ( who are super bad).
So Assad ( bad ) is now probably good, being better than IS ( but let’s face it, drinking your own wee is better than IS so no real choice there ) and since Putin and Iran are also fighting IS that may now make them Good.
America ( still Good ) will find it hard to arm a group of rebels being attacked by the Russians for fear of upsetting Mr Putin ( now good ) and that nice mad Ayatollah in Iran ( also Good ) and so they may be forced to say that the Rebels are now Bad, or at the very least abandon them to their fate. This will lead most of them to flee to Turkey and on to Europe or join IS ( still the only constantly bad group).
To Sunni Muslims, an attack by Shia Muslims ( Assad and Iran ) backed by Russians will be seen as something of a Holy War, and the ranks of IS will now be seen by the Sunnis as the only Jihadis fighting in the Holy War and hence many Muslims will now see IS as Good ( Doh!.) Sunni Muslims will also see the lack of action by Britain and America in support of their Sunni rebel brothers as something of a betrayal ( mmm.might have a point.) and hence we will be seen as Bad.
So now we have America ( now bad ) and Britain ( also bad ) providing limited support to Sunni Rebels ( bad ) many of whom are looking to IS (Good / bad ) for support against Assad ( now good ) who, along with Iran (also Good) and Putin ( also, now, unbelievably, Good ) are attempting to retake the country Assad used to run before all this started?
I hope that this clears all this up for you.

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11-27-2015 06:37 AM  34 months agoPost 2
Dennis (RIP)

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It's all bad. The whole frickin thing.

It's to late for us to have any impact.

If we went in there in any serious numbers a bunch of our people would get mangled and killed and there would still be the same situation depending on how the political wind blows.

The Obummer and his pals blew it over there in a very, very big way. There were warned.

Stay out of there and let them kill each other.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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11-27-2015 09:25 AM  34 months agoPost 3
spaceman spiff

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Well done Lotus.

It is what we call a clusterfluck

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11-27-2015 12:07 PM  34 months agoPost 4
fla heli boy

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summed it up per****tly!!!

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11-27-2015 02:54 PM  34 months agoPost 5
baby uh1

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It is what we call a clusterfluck
Otherwise known as Obama's foreign policy! Who is paying him to be this inept? He has to be getting paid to do this because even a complete idiot gets things correct once in a while.

Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!

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11-27-2015 04:21 PM  34 months agoPost 6
es1co2bar3

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Well people know OBAMA wasn't certified to do foreign policy at the time he was being vetted.
We can't really blame him for we know what we was
Getting into.

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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11-27-2015 04:57 PM  34 months agoPost 7
fla heli boy

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be careful man. Remember.... we were all here when you defended him for the last several years. Glad you finally woke up, but we do remember you defending him STAUNCHLY for a loooong time.
Hopefully lots of people are finally waking up, like you finally did.

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11-27-2015 05:15 PM  34 months agoPost 8
Dennis (RIP)

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Don't depend on it.

It's a play that has already been played.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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11-27-2015 05:33 PM  34 months agoPost 9
es1co2bar3

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Well you can say that FHB my defense of him was somewhat moderate, why I changed the Demotrash
Is playing Pac Man game with people, if you don't see with a 3rd eye or listen with 3rd ears
You won't get theirs tactics.

OBAMA HAS become a very selfish brother who doesn't care about anyone else's thought but his.
Even if mean crushing those he claims he champion
For.

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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11-27-2015 10:22 PM  34 months agoPost 10
fla heli boy

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FYI.... he hasn't changed. He's been this way since day one. You just finally woke up to it.

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11-27-2015 10:29 PM  34 months agoPost 11
dilberteinstein

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Lotus7
Best explanation I've read. Thanks.

90% of life is "showing up"

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11-28-2015 12:05 AM  34 months agoPost 12
es1co2bar3

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FYI.... he hasn't changed. He's been this way since day one. You just finally woke up to it.
He's Radicalized in the last 4 years of office every president is kinda cool for the 1st 4 year of office, this give voters confident
To re-elect them.

My Objections of him 1st year in office is when he bail out
Wall streets.
I don't know why the f<k he would bail out a bank.

I Remember when these sucker when to get the money
They show up in private luxury jet.

After that all was good until he show his gay prides.

I never know he was a batty Man]

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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11-28-2015 01:38 AM  34 months agoPost 13
baby uh1

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And the idiot democrat voters got fooled by him twice!

Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!

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11-28-2015 02:41 AM  34 months agoPost 14
jharkin

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You guys are too funny.. Can't even be bothered to get your history straight.

You do realize the wall st bailout was enacted under Bush presidency don't you?

And the power vacuum that led to ISIS is in large part a legacy of Bush' war in Iraq.

Keep on believing those delusions....

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11-28-2015 02:47 AM  34 months agoPost 15
don s

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Isn't a bunch of IS leadership ex-Iraqi military from the Saddam era?

E820, Raptor G4N, X50F/E, E620, Forza 450, and some planks.

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11-28-2015 05:00 AM  34 months agoPost 16
Dennis (RIP)

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And the power vacuum that led to ISIS is in large part a legacy of Bush' war in Iraq.
Keep on believing those delusions
Actually, after the troop surge in Iraq, Bush succeeded there and Iraq was calmed before he left office at which time he warned what would happen if we abandoned Iraq.

Well, the Obummer abandoned Iraq and what Bush warned what would happen there actually happened.

The only delusions here are your own words.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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11-28-2015 06:02 AM  34 months agoPost 17
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You do realize the wall st bailout was enacted under Bush presidency don't you?
It seem Demotrash just like to be a Babble head ok, let me school you.

The Bush Administration draft upon a liason to salvage the economy
By mean of a bail out, it was the Democrat who was pushing for tax player to purchase bank bad debt in return for a stake in there cake.

The 1st bailout didn't work so the 2nd was too costly to implement
So he let the economy falter for a little for the next POTUS to be,

Now Batty man] Obama change the slogan from [in God we trust] to [in Fed we must trust]

[Partial impair and dying AIG need a Lil love of tax payer cash along
With their bigger Global killer [Lehman bro] failing as well.

What the hell did Bush have to do with their bail out? He was lon gone

It was Batty man Obama and Tim Geithner come out with them scare attic
That humanity will implode if the Fed reserve don't get the 700 bills
Needed to get them rich bastard to heaven.

And was going to Bail out Europe Barcley financial, where the heck was Bush then he was long gone.

Now Tim Geithner want the world to think he got conventional wisdom
He want to shore up the other dying firm that is dangerously interconnected global financial system that lost confident in the housing Relate assett.

After people start defaulting on their Obligation that sink Berk share, and Bear Sterns further into the Gutter.
Geithner usher JP Morgan Chase to buy their bad debt with Fed money

Where was Bush he was long Gone.

Remember Ben Ben Bernanke and Paulson Hank who invent the dangerous TARP] management that was rebuffed by the Congress.

Where was Bush he was long gone,

Who was all these man? Demotrash Remember this ok.

I could go on the stuff but it too much typing, so stop talking so much
And you will learn,

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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11-28-2015 07:44 AM  34 months agoPost 18
Lotus7

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Just to be clear, I did not write that piece, a friend sent it to a few of us by email, without credits to the author .

Here is something similar

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11-28-2015 09:52 AM  34 months agoPost 19
Dennis (RIP)

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Exactly.

And all the same reasons why I think we should stay the heck out of there, support Israel to the max and let those bast#rds kill themselves off.

Oh and by the way, if we get any serious indications that Iran is going to set off a nuke, we should completely destroy those nukes, their entire leadership and their complete military infrastructure.

Yes, it may mean all out war in the Middle East.

The alternative is to horrific to contemplate.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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11-28-2015 12:36 PM  34 months agoPost 20
fla heli boy

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^^ I couldn't have written that better myself D...

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