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11-25-2015 07:26 PM  34 months agoPost 41
revmix

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will win
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11-25-2015 07:58 PM  34 months agoPost 42
elmobad

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Will that sums it up.

You most be realy young or mabe just ignorant.

I learned I long time ago.

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A FREE LUNCH.

I am not going to explain it if you don't understand what that means, Google it.

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11-25-2015 08:02 PM  34 months agoPost 43
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sums it up
according to your amateur knowledge
Federal law (49 U.S.C. § 44101(a)) requires that a person may only operate an aircraft when it is registered with the FAA. An “aircraft” is defined as “any contrivance invented, used, or designed to navigate, or fly in, the air” (49 U.S.C. § 40102(a) (6)). In 2012, Congress confirmed that UAS, including those used for recreation or hobby purposes, are aircraft consistent with the statutory definition set forth in 49 U.S.C. § 40102(a)(6). See Pub. L. 112-95, §§ 331(8), 336. The FAA currently requires civil UAS operators who have been granted operational authority by exemption to register their aircraft. The FAA would also require registration for civil UAS that would be operating under the proposed rule titled Operation and Certification of small UAS (sUAS). See 80 FR 9544 (Feb. 23, 2015).
Although the FAA does not currently enforce the requirement for sUAS used for hobby or recreational purposes to be registered, the rapid proliferation of these aircraft in the national airspace has caused the FAA to reevaluate this policy in the interests of public safety and the safety of the National Airspace System (NAS).

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11-25-2015 09:22 PM  34 months agoPost 44
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I am so sorry for yours ignorants, I do feel bad for you.
FAA to reevaluate this policy in the interests of public safety and the safety of the National Airspace System (NAS).
The faa can say what ever the heck they want, it was and is a law that it don't matter what the faa wants to say. I am pretty sure would take a congressional committee, to make a decision on this matter not on a whim by the faa.

I am done wasting my time with you. It's 100% your right to lick the boots and kiss the pinky ring of your socialist leaders.

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11-25-2015 09:43 PM  34 months agoPost 45
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It's 100%
your hobby-thinking is waste of energy

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11-25-2015 09:48 PM  34 months agoPost 46
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Haha ...... have a wonder day.

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11-25-2015 09:53 PM  34 months agoPost 47
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Haha
brainwashed by modelaircraft.org

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11-25-2015 09:57 PM  34 months agoPost 48
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if there was any legal ground against registration then
pretty sure
AMA would have objected participating in the Task Force

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11-25-2015 11:55 PM  34 months agoPost 49
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AMA would have objected participating in the Task Force
I don't know about that. After looking at the participants it's easy enough to see that Modeling was outgunned, even the EAA wasn't invited to the table. This is all about money. After looking at the situation it's clear that this whole thing was cooked up along time ago, the Task force is lip service and the coming registration is nothing more than a make work scenario to let the public know that the FAA is on the job and doing something to control these dangerous aerial appliances. The only way to get control of the situation is diametrically opposed to what the FAA might do. The regulation needs to come on the manufacturers side not on the side of operators. Registering operators changes nothing.

Even if the AMA was a no show on the Task Force what would have changed. They clearly said on the AMA website that they wanted to put a dissenting opinion into the recommendation and we all know that didn't happen which leads me to come to the conclusions that I just made.

If the FAA had put the onus of registering new owners on the retailers and the manufacturers we would have heard them howl all the way down here in Tennessee. No way that was going to happen.

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AMA SECTION 336 = Good
Drones = EVIL

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11-26-2015 12:12 AM  34 months agoPost 50
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Totally agree...

The only people not represented at the table were the Joe Bloke pilots. All the responsibility for registering and marking aircraft falls on the shoulders of the pilot. I am not so sure the AMA is really even part of this. Keep them out.

When something nasty happens, the FAA and FBI will not have the tools to backtrack the key components to the individual to which they were sold. The FBI would be left with fingerprints and aircraft types.

The only way the system could possibly work is to have serial#s on motors and engines together with radio receivers. I would propose that when sold, the serial#s would be recorded to a pilot with a registration#. I know that all these components currently do not have numbers, but they are the key components in making these systems work. The owner would register a sale if any of these items are resold. Items damaged beyond use could be recorded as such.

Manufacturers do not want the headache, so they are pushing an ineffective DOA system that is no better than an e-mail list of names.

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11-26-2015 01:20 AM  34 months agoPost 51
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I am more worried about the potential abuse of the registration system.

How is the pilots information going to be validated?
If all you have to do is go to the web site, enter a name and address, and maybe a burner email address, then anyone can register anyone else.

One could easily set up someone they had a beef against for a bout with the Feds that would take them years to recover from.

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11-26-2015 02:04 AM  34 months agoPost 52
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Y'all should keep your own counsel during this time. It's going to be an interesting few months.

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Drones = EVIL

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12-13-2015 03:20 AM  33 months agoPost 53
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Here is another update: http://www.politico.com/tipsheets/m...n-advice-211692

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Drones = EVIL

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12-13-2015 04:22 AM  33 months agoPost 54
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Of course they will ditch the recommendations, because they were silly at best (and free).

E820, Raptor G4N, X50F/E, E620, Forza 450, and some planks.

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12-13-2015 05:25 AM  33 months agoPost 55
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Five dollar fee. Most likely not a self registration anymore.

Will that be $5 per person or $5 per vehicle.

Retailers will apparently bear the brunt of making sure the buyers are registered. That will certainly kill shops like Ron's, GrandRC, Helidirect, AMain....and others. The Government red tape and record keeping will more than eat up any operating margin the retailers have

Will you be able to sell your stuff or give it away without some form of transfer proof?

And will this all be in place and ready to go by Christmas?

And so it begins.

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12-13-2015 07:20 AM  33 months agoPost 56
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And my latest AMA Magazine has "how to build an FPV racer" in the RC Helicopter section.

I'm absolutely disgusted and betrayed.

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12-13-2015 03:40 PM  33 months agoPost 57
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People relax, all this pandering to the faa fear tactics is unwarranted.

I have first hand knowledge that that there is a "ORGANIZATION" simply waiting to see the full extent of the illegal rules that the faa will "TRY" to impose on our beloved hobby. At that point legal action will be taken.

So please STOP listening to the BS that is being put out by foolish media sources.

No, I dont care how sheeple will attack what I say and I will not be responding.

What I wrote above is true, so can we just see how this plays out before we start "THE HOBBY SKY IS FALLING", it is not.

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12-13-2015 04:04 PM  33 months agoPost 58
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Now I agree the "drone" (puked a little when I wrote that word) trend most are not traditional hobbyist. FPV racers, those guys are/can be hobbyist, there is a lot that goes into most FPV racers. They are like RC cars that fly around its kinda cool, not my bag(yet) but looks cool. How many of us have been harassed by the "old plankers" for years. Lets not start the trend of the harassing the FPV racers by the "the old pod and boom heli guys".

If we embrace the hobbyist quad guys, and distance ourselves from the guys who fly "drones" this can work to our (the HOBBYISTS) advantage.

I am sure when the AMA embraced model r/c helicopters, the plankers said a lot of whats being spoken about FPV racers today.

I don't know the AMA's motivations of getting on board with FPV racers. Look at what Bert and Bobby are doing, are they sell-outs too. They are/where 3D HELI superheros. Now, just following the money, not entirely?

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12-13-2015 04:05 PM  33 months agoPost 59
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They need to close down the Fun Fly Loophole. Did you know that you can go to a funfly and buy a helicopter, quad, airplane without even a simple background check?

Mike

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12-14-2015 11:28 AM  33 months agoPost 60
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whirly I like your style...that's funny no matter who you are.

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