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11-04-2015 02:02 AM  4 years ago
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dkshema

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Decent Fuel Pump that lasts...do they exist?
Are there any good fuel pumps on the market these days that will handle 30% nitro fuel, and last more than a season?

Seems like the Hangar 9 variety (and all their private labeled look-alike spawn) last about a year, then start leaking. Nothing's more fun than fueling your heli then ending up with a slobber of fuel all over your hand from the leaks.

I switched to a Sullivan Streamer, electric powered pump a little over a year ago. It started leaking this summer. At least I'm not holding it when it leaks, but it leaks, just the same.

Many years ago, I purchased a Royal hand-crank pump. That baby lasted for year after year after year, but finally wore out. And Royal is gone.

I followed that one with a pump that I recalled as being made by IM Products, or perhaps KSJ. It, too, lasted several years.

Please don't tell me to buy the Dave Brown Six Shooter. It's big and bulky, and designed for yesteryear when fuel came in a gallon can like lacquer thinner.

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Was wondering if a windshield washer pump could be adapted, but I read they are good for only intermittent, short blast kind of use, not for continuous operation while filling a 90-sized heli fuel tank and header. They should handle methanol well, as that is the usual base for windshield washer fluid.

A small, battery operated peristaltic pump using silicone tubing would be nice. I've seen some on Ebay and elsewhere, but it seems they are limited capacity and would take a week to fuel my helis.

Electric would be great, but a good, solid hand-cranked pump would be welcome. Any suggestions?
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11-04-2015 02:08 AM  4 years ago
jbjones

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Dave,

For years (when I ran electric pumps) I ran a McDaniel (Sonic Tronics) pump. What's so great about it? Not much..it's fairly boring, pumps fuel and is cheap. What's the best part? I would turn it in every year, add $10 and get a new one in return. Same goes for the NiStarter. Can't beat it.

Also, I just checked their site, and a refurb/scratch-dent pump is $10.

Sonic Tronics - Scratch and Dent

Edit: I should add that I don't have any affiliation with them...they've just been around forever and I like supporting those guys.
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11-04-2015 02:19 AM  4 years ago
dkshema

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Thanks for the tip, I had completely forgotten about Sonic Tronics stuff.-----
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11-04-2015 02:21 AM  4 years ago
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Over the years I've tried many manual and electric pumps as well. The only pump that's stood the test of time for me after years of use w/o leaking is the Slimline SL2000. It's a peristaltic pump so it can't leak unless the internal fuel line breaks.

Unfortunately, it's my understanding Slimline is no longer in business.
  
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11-04-2015 02:28 AM  4 years ago
fastflyer20

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Did you check out the Secraft at Esprit? I have not run them, but they seem to offer a higher quality option.Tom
CAUTION - my posts are based on my experiences, yours may be different.
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11-04-2015 02:34 AM  4 years ago
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Ace Dude: Unfortunately, it's my understanding Slimline is no longer in business.
Something like that. On the R/C Boat forum that I frequent, there is a guy that has spent many hours and labor creating a maintenance kit for that pump, I believe. I think it was last week that he was nearly ready to release pricing for those kits. If you're interested, I can PM him and find out if you want.

They were popular pumps, for sure.

-JB

Edit: He said in his post that it's looking like between $25-$28 for the kit. He posted a video of his initial tests.

Watch at YouTube

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11-04-2015 02:41 AM  4 years ago
dchekas

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Been using my Slimline SL2000 for over 5 years. It's pumped hundreds of gallons.

It's a peristaltic pump, so your fuel is only exposed to the tubing, minimizing contamination opportunities.

If you can find one, it's the best.
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11-04-2015 03:04 AM  4 years ago
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Something like that. On the R/C Boat forum that I frequent, there is a guy that has spent many hours and labor creating a maintenance kit for that pump, I believe. I think it was last week that he was nearly ready to release pricing for those kits. If you're interested, I can PM him and find out if you want.

They were popular pumps, for sure.

-JB

Edit: He said in his post that it's looking like between $25-$28 for the kit. He posted a video of his initial tests.
Thanks for the offer, but I have a few rebuild kits I acquired before Slimline closed. Really shouldn't have taken much time to create the rebuild kit as it's nothing more than a piece of fuel tubing, 3 Delrin rollers (these are machined) , and an o-ring in the case of the SL2000 since it screws on the top of the fuel jug. I'm going to say my pump is 12+ years old and I've only ever used one rebuild kit and that was because I changed it after about seven years of use.
  
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11-04-2015 03:11 AM  4 years ago
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If buying new today, I'd probably investigate one of these. Would need to check with the manufacturer to confirm glow fuel compatibility.

http://www.greylor.com/pumps/detail/rf100
  
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11-04-2015 04:43 AM  4 years ago
dkshema

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BINGO!!! Of all the places to look, after determining that Slimline has gone the way many other hobby related manufacturers, I found a Slimline Boxxer at Ron Lund's store. "Priced to sell", said there were two in stock. Now there's only one.

As an aside, one of the sites in my search for Slimline indicated that the company went belly-up, due to a... drum roll, please,.....

...divorce.

Thanks for the suggestions.
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11-04-2015 05:02 AM  4 years ago
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Great! Glad you found a Slimline pump.  
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11-09-2015 06:30 PM  4 years ago
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Go on EBay and you will find a company that sells fuel pumps for gas or glow. They run about $40 USD and are well worth it. I have been using mine for three months on glow with no problems.
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11-09-2015 06:52 PM  4 years ago
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I use the MK pumps from CentralHobbies.com
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11-10-2015 01:38 AM  4 years ago
dkshema

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No more need for pump suggestions. I bought a Slimline Boxxer from Ron's. It got here last Saturday, looks like a very nice peristaltic, powered pump. It should last for years and there is nothing to leak.

As for $40 pumps from Ebay, well, three months isn't what I'd call a qualified period of performance to get me to lay down $40. The cheesy Hangar 9 and even the Sullivan Streamer lasted maybe 1-1/2 years before they leaked...
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11-12-2015 01:21 AM  4 years ago
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Just for future or others use, I have been using a Sonic-Tronics Mark X Fuel Pump for twenty years and it is only now leaking slightly.Blades; what goes around, comes around!
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11-12-2015 02:53 PM  4 years ago
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Dave has lost interest. He is the OP. Close the damn thread Dave !
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11-12-2015 03:58 PM  4 years ago
dkshema

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I may have an alterior motive for keeping it open. If you don't care to see additional posts for this topic you may wish to unsubscribe.-----
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11-14-2015 02:44 AM  4 years ago
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Pretty Old School :

In a Pinch ? I will place the Bird on the Ground - Put the Jug on the table to fuel, and let Issac Newton do it for FREE !

To de- fuel ? I will place the Bird on the table - Put the Jug on the ground, and again let Issac Newton do it for FREE !

IF I want absolutely ZERO chance of rubber " Bit's " impeller parts or rotten fuel tubing cast off or little plastic gear parts entering the fuel micro circuits -

I will use a shot of compressed air from a volley ball pump and keep the jug hermetically sealed : To Fuel / De-Fuel. No Electro Motive Pump or battery and No Hand cranking.

I also collect those wonderful pumps ! 35 Years worth +

Do the above methods work ? Fast ? Well if your a space cadet and do too much jaw boning you will quickly learn how fast you can drain a jug of fuel on the ground or wash down a table.

Then once learned ?? You don't do that any more You got taught -
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11-20-2015 03:10 PM  4 years ago
Richardmid1

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I can't find them now but you can get a nice little full aluminium pump that worked off your starter. They did a slow rpm version for use with the Align starter. Bit pricy though.60% of the time, it works every time!
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11-20-2015 06:09 PM  4 years ago
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That pump you are talking about is made by Secraft. Esprit Models carries them.Nick Crego

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