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11-03-2015 04:06 PM  4 years ago
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Flying scale without stabilization
I have a Flybarless Kavan Jet Ranger I modified slightly from the original seperating throttle from pitch. It has original weighted blades as well. Im going to test it as is, but was wondering if I use an AR7200BX do the mechanix have to be CCPM? I know the radio is supposed to be set at, 1 servo 90 degrees. Thanks
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12-04-2015 11:50 PM  4 years ago
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don't use the ar7200bx for scale its too Fast...that is if it has a 90 degree swash option like on the helicommand
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12-05-2015 01:43 AM  4 years ago
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Thanks, decided I'm flying without stabilization. Check out the video
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12-05-2015 01:44 AM  4 years ago
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12-05-2015 02:26 AM  4 years ago
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nice !! have u tried Fast forward w/o stabi?...tried it on a t500....yikes... !!!
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12-05-2015 06:27 AM  4 years ago
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I'm sorry but I have to disagree on the beastX. If it was to twitchy then the rate must of been to high or ur geoumatri was well over 6*degrees on the swash which would appect for a pod and boom setup but for scale it needs to be turn down on the rates and swash. Yes u can put a beastX on 90* degree swash and it will fly nice even in fff. I have beastX on two raptor 50scale Heli and both r not ccpm and they fly like it on rails. Here's one of rappys 50 with a scale head and she fly smooth with a beastX.

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12-06-2015 12:48 PM  4 years ago
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I would add the BeastX without question... I have them on some of my 800 size helis, and have helped several people dial them in on their scalers also...
As well as your machine is working, in no wind conditions, the Beastx would only improve the all around handling...allowing for a much "calmer" flight
I have never witnessed a "twitchy" Beastx...(dual rates and expo can be used after set up)
I would mount the unit in the same location as the existing gyro is in to keep vibes to a minimum...
Nice looking Jet Ranger/old timer!!!
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12-06-2015 03:24 PM  4 years ago
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I have read the manual on line and believe it would work no problem. Thanks for your help guys. I fly many helis, a bunch are vintage flybar, this is Kavan's flybarless and is a fun challenge. I have never used electronic stabilization but will use my Beast X in the near future on something.
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12-06-2015 06:56 PM  4 years ago
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+3 on the beastx I have them on many (large) scale birds and they perform great!!!!Home of the "Sea Cobra".....
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12-06-2015 10:28 PM  4 years ago
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I have never used electronic stabilization but will use my Beast X in the near future on something
I can certainly understand your situation, I too am old school when it comes to flybarless/multibladed heads. I have been flying without stab units for a few years. in the past I have flown a few scale setups that use a stab unit and for me it just felt kinda funny. theres a rule of thumb with some of the units that you want to stay off the cyclic til you are airborne. that is a hard habbit to break for me. I tried a beastX on my Lakota for the nats this year and while I was able to get the 2nd place spot in sport scale with it, I had a hard time but I think much of that is I hadn't had much time to get it installed and tuned and also I have no clue what I was doing. the result was almost having a really bad round at the nats, Stan (Doorman) can tell you all about it since he had a front row seat to it
what has worked for me is choosing a head that works well and more importantly choosing blades that are ideal for multi use. it can be done, I did it with my Nats winning 407.
now with that, if a stab unit is added to that mix, I think your world will be like butter.
my latest project (a Roban A-star) is currently flying the mechanics without a stab unit and very nicely so far. I will give the beastX another shot on a future machine but will wait til I can get help form someone (That's you Stan) who can teach me how to set it up properly.
I have heard great things said about the V-bar and a few others
your jetranger seems to be doing well as it is right now. I would like to suggest some blades just to try and see. there are many blades on the market now specially designed for "flybarless" use.
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