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02-01-2020 12:38 AM  6 months ago
X-Cell Man

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No ... just sandable primer. I use either light gray or white primer in spray gun. Small objects I use rattle can. The color of primer determines the colors being used. White or Yellow I use White primer, dark colors use gray. If you use gray primer it will take more coats of white to cover which will add more weight.

Dan
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02-06-2020 07:11 PM  5 months ago
Grimracer

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Eau Claire WI

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Butch,

We are all Jonesing for an update.. Fill us in when you have time.

FLY SCALE!

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Michael J Zaborowski
Futaba USA
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IRCHA 5453
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02-06-2020 10:47 PM  5 months ago
bwellmaker

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UIH Grim,

67 is about in the same place since the last update. Pretty much ready for primer with a few touches here and there.

I have actually been working on my 76 getting the torque tube installed. I have a few pics to upload for “winter projects” on that project as well.

My boss is thinking about buying another 76 so that discussion is taking up some time as well.

Uih

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02-24-2020 08:37 PM  5 months ago
bwellmaker

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Uih,

This junker is in primer. Spent a lot of time on the join seams that paid off. Have a few very small edge joints that need a little attention but over real happy.

Once the few edges are addressed, a finish sanding rivits and some color.

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02-25-2020 02:53 AM  5 months ago
FenderBean

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Wow no words, if you decided to ever do a large Apache I will need your address for the check!!!!https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCE_rywpdgBAxA8bHVCw3VQQ
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02-25-2020 03:45 PM  5 months ago
bwellmaker

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UIH,

Thanks Fender,

I do have a couple subjects in mind for my next project but sorry to say it will not be an Apache. Will be a good winter project for next winter as my 67 will be "finished up", well as finished as a scale helicopter can be. HA

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02-26-2020 03:21 AM  5 months ago
FenderBean

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Well as a former Apache guy I can help with details if you ever do. None of the current Apache kits are right.https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCE_rywpdgBAxA8bHVCw3VQQ
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03-11-2020 09:17 PM  4 months ago
bwellmaker

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Pressing on UIH,

All primed and sort of ready for color. Have the rivets all laid out for the tail. Fitting the Cockpit glass and made some new stab molds. I have this sign in my shop which affords me the ability to do things several times before they are correct.

Thing is looking pretty good.

UIH,

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03-11-2020 10:05 PM  4 months ago
Notar

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Looking good Butch
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03-28-2020 04:57 PM  4 months ago
bwellmaker

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Dang, I am on a friggin roll.

Work on 67 progressing. Have all the windows fit. Still need a little attention here and there but happy. Also about ready for some rivets. Going to use the glue type. My fingers are not too happy about this.

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03-28-2020 06:27 PM  4 months ago
hrc37

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That is some SWEET work Butch!!!!!

Mark
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03-28-2020 06:33 PM  4 months ago
v22chap

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Looking really awsome Butch !!!! When your done with your rivets I will send you my cheyenne to do ,, as with my 73 yr old arthritic fingers and wrist I don't think I am going to do them this bird . Maybe just a few here and there Larry C ----------Bergen R/C helicopters
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03-28-2020 11:39 PM  4 months ago
g5sean

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Looking great Butch!
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03-29-2020 01:22 AM  4 months ago
BeltFedBrowning

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Please show the rivet making in detail. I am about to start riveting my Apache, my first.
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03-29-2020 07:56 PM  4 months ago
bwellmaker

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Dang. Rivet detail. I am not the best at it but they look ok when all installed and painted.

For me I lay out a few lines on a paper plate to get the hang of laying them down. Its more of a pressure and timing issue To get them uniform.

I use the Starwood Kit and for this application I used the aqua colored large tip. The spacing I use on this model is 5mm. That spacing is enough but not to many in my opinion. I mark out the stringer and rib lines then place a tick mark every 5mm along those lines. The structure you try to replicate with a rivet pattern is pretty basic. You can see where the tail pylon spar runs all the way to the bottom of the tail cone. Makes sense to follow that structure line. Also every so often you may see a double row of rivets as sheet metal is only so big especially with a model such as the 67 that was hand built in the late 60’s. Now days this stuff in all Chem milled and CNC pilot holes are drilled or its all plastic.

Once you are comfortable with finger pressure the size of the glue dot on the end of the tip just get the timing right and let-er-rip. I try not to touch the fuse with the needle but only let the glue ball touch the fuse. To me it makes a more symmetrical looking rivet. I also use a pair of the magnifying lens things that have about 12-14 inch focal length. I also use two hands. One to keep pressure on the syringe and the other to steady it. I also place the hand squeezing the syringe on the fuse to help steady everything. Once you lay down a few test lines you will find what is comfortable and works best for you. As the glue drys the Rivet shrinks a bit and does not stand up as tall. I work to get the lines as straight as possible but once in color a very minor deviation will hardly be noticed.

If you do mess one, or a row of rivets do not light your hair on fire. Let the glue dry and come back with a #11 exacto blade and pop the bad rivet or row of rivets off. They pop of very easy.

Hope this helps

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04-05-2020 08:17 PM  4 months ago
bwellmaker

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UIH,

Put a little primer on the tail after the rivet job. Looks pretty nice. Have a few detail things to add then almost ready for color. A bit of history as well.

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04-05-2020 10:27 PM  4 months ago
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Looking good... Rich
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04-05-2020 10:54 PM  4 months ago
chopper37

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Wow great work on the windows and rivets
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04-06-2020 12:52 AM  4 months ago
cobieg

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Very nice Butch. I like the final paint scheme rendering

Ron
I didn't crash. I just ran out of airspeed, altitude, and ideas all at the same time!
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04-06-2020 01:55 AM  4 months ago
BeltFedBrowning

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Ordered a rivet kit. What did you use for the panel lines? Did you cut your own tape?
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