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09-06-2015 05:28 PM  3 years agoPost 41
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Kim Davis is a democrat and throwing up civil rights roadblocks today. Much like democrat George Wallace during the racial desegregation movement.

Why on earth blacks and alternative lifestyle folks tend to vote democrat is beyond me.

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09-06-2015 05:34 PM  3 years agoPost 42
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Kim Davis is a democrat and throwing up civil rights roadblocks today. Much like democrat George Wallace during the racial desegregation movement.
How is she throwing up civil rights road blocks?

She is the one in jail.

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09-06-2015 05:38 PM  3 years agoPost 43
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Denying the right of gays to get married. That is now their legal right to do so, Is it not? or did I miss a reversal of that.

Well she tried anyway.

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09-06-2015 06:06 PM  3 years agoPost 44
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Denying the right of gays to get married. That is now their legal right to do so, Is it not? or did I miss a reversal of that.
Sure, it is their right to get married all they wish to.

All they go to do is find a county clerk to give them a license, then go to a justice of the peace and get hitched.

It's that simple.

To go to a county clerk where they know they are going to get rejected is called activism.

This is where SCOTUS really screwed up the decision on gay marriage. They either should have given accommodations in the law for first amend rights of freedom of religion or dropped the case altogether and sent it back to the states to resolve themselves. Instead, they created new law and trashed the traditional definition of marriage that has been with us since the beginning of time. Dumbsh#ts.

Read the first amendment:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Ok, gays have new rights. So what. So do Christians guaranteed by the 1st amend.

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09-06-2015 06:12 PM  3 years agoPost 45
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Glad you agree. BTW, without activism, change doesn't happen so readily. Squeaky wheel / grease. If you are on the side of the fence demanding change then it helps your cause. Does it not?

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09-06-2015 06:37 PM  3 years agoPost 46
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BTW, without activism, change doesn't happen so readily. Squeaky wheel / grease. If you are on the side of the fence demanding change then it helps your cause. Does it not?
Depends on your style of activism.

When gay activists go to a county clerk and get rejected , why not go to the next county and get their frickin license. After all, they are claiming love for each other. If they were truly in love, would they not ignore the road blocks and find another road instead is disrespecting someone's religious beliefs and get them thrown in jail? Is that not going a bit overboard for your love?

How about the "black lives matter" movement. Don't all other lives matter equally? Is it necessary to promote the killing of police officers to get your point across? In a jam who are you going to call? A crack addict?

That's what today's style of activism is my friend.

Do you support that style of activism?

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09-06-2015 06:40 PM  3 years agoPost 47
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Instead, they created new law and trashed the traditional definition of marriage that has been with us since the beginning of time.
This is what I found extremely funny. We have a bunch of people who have been married and divorced a number of times, including this lady, defending "traditional marriage" based on religious belief -there are plenty here on RR too.
Go figure!

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09-06-2015 06:49 PM  3 years agoPost 48
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This is what I found extremely funny. We have a bunch of people who have been married and divorced a number of times, including this lady, defending "traditional marriage" -ee have several on RR too.
Go figure!
That's a fair point.

However, if I were to choose, I would still support traditional marriage.

I have said on this forum many times that I mean no harm to gays. But, to trash traditional marriage as between a man and a woman goes to far in my mind. Especially when the 1st amendment guarantee of freedom of religion is set aside for the benefit of gays.

They went to far and totally ignored the 1st amend.

I am not a very religious person as some would think of. I don't go to church and I don't preach to others or quote scripture to others. But, I still believe in a superior being that created us. Some others have a much deeper faith than I do. I try hard to always give them at least a proper level of respect for that.

I always try to give a proper level of respect for atheists as well. For, as we choose a religion for faith, they should be thankful that they don't have to choose a religion and leave others be that do.

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09-06-2015 07:18 PM  3 years agoPost 49
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we all have the exact same rights, no one has more or less than another.
We should all have respect for one another regardless of their belief system/s.
If the governance wants to acknowledge non traditional marriage then the authorities who has granted such rights should provide a means for "gays" to be married and by respecting the rights of others including all other establishments.

I say let them go to a court house where employees don't have an issue with this.

what's the big deal.

if you don't like your job because you find it immoral then quit or find a new location.

now if the person already had their job before the new "law" then said person should have the opportunity to work elsewhere with out loss of current employment status.

might help them think twice before making laws

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09-06-2015 07:44 PM  3 years agoPost 50
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now if the person already had their job before the new "law" then said person should have the opportunity to work elsewhere with out loss of current employment status.
But, in this case, Kim Davis is an elected official as county clerk. The gay marriage law was passed after she was elected to office.

She cannot be removed from office other than through impeachment, special election or regular election. There are large risks involved in each action. The risk being that is she wins, then her little battle is over and the gays loose. Of course, the war is not lost. Just a small field victory. But, Christians all over the country are starting to refuse to marry gays.

That is where the war will be fought. Peaceably, I hope.

Could get interesting.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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09-06-2015 08:11 PM  3 years agoPost 51
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In this case since she is an elected official then she may resign her post, her job depends on what people vote for not the other way around. She has the right to resign or look for another position that won't interfere with her belief system/s.

I say replace her with someone who is able to do the job with out their personal beliefs getting in the way of them doing their job.

by for forcing other religious establishments to perform an act for which they believe is immoral, such act itself is immoral and won't
be tolerated.

if the government isn't careful they may have to battle almost all of the religious groups, in which case the government will lose 3:1

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09-06-2015 08:17 PM  3 years agoPost 52
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Do I support threats and killings to further a cause? Of course not. That is a helluva leap to make. I see what you did there. Attempted to plant that seed in everyone's mind.
Especially when the 1st amendment guarantee of freedom of religion is set aside for the benefit of gays.
How is that even possible? The duties of a job may not necessarily line up with your beliefs, soooo find some thing else to do. I'm sorry if job descriptions change. Should we be guaranteed a job if we can't fulfill it?

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09-06-2015 11:12 PM  3 years agoPost 53
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How is that even possible? The duties of a job may not necessarily line up with your beliefs, soooo find some thing else to do. I'm sorry if job descriptions change. Should we be guaranteed a job if we can't fulfill it?
As already said, there is no distinction in the first amend about employment and religious freedom. None what so ever. NADA, zero, zip.

In addition, the argument goes both ways. If those gays were truly in love like they claim, they could have gone to another county to get their marriage license and not bother others about it. Lovers find a road block and they find another road.

What is this about guaranteeing a job? How does that enter into this? Are you running out of arguing points?

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09-06-2015 11:14 PM  3 years agoPost 54
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Do I support threats and killings to further a cause? Of course not. That is a helluva leap to make. I see what you did there. Attempted to plant that seed in everyone's mind.
All I did was ask a simple question.

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09-06-2015 11:16 PM  3 years agoPost 55
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09-06-2015 11:27 PM  3 years agoPost 56
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if you don't like your job because you find it immoral then quit or find a new location.
now if the person already had their job before the new "law" then said person should have the opportunity to work elsewhere with out loss of current employment status.
That would be great but I don't think it will happen. She is getting a lot of attention and that must likely will translate into money.
My prediction: she will became an activist (anti-gay marriage Christian).
Now, how people support her is beyond me. Married multiple times, having kids out of wedlock, etc. I mean, she represents everything a Christian should not be.
As I said before, many complainers are people that married multiple times! Sanctity of marriage, yeah right.
PS. Here on RR, we have guys with multiple women, multiple kids out of wedlock, etc., complaining about guy marriage. Every time I read their posts I go like, seriously dude? How about fixing those issues at home before complaining about your gay neighbor?


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09-07-2015 12:06 AM  3 years agoPost 57
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Married multiple times. I mean, she represents everything a Christian should not be.
Good point.

But, is there something about gay marriage that makes them better or any different than the hypocritical Christians?

Will gay marriage show us all the perfection of love? Will gay marriage teach us all how to spend our lives together in wonderful and peaceable harmony? Will gay marriage teach us all to get along
and live peaceably forever? Will gay marriage end all wars, heal all wounds, feed all the people and make global climate change no longer an issue.

Somehow I think they won't be any better.

You think?

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09-07-2015 12:24 AM  3 years agoPost 58
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But, is there something about gay marriage that makes them better or any different than the hypocritical Christians?
Gays are gays, this is not about being better than the other group. In my opinion, hypocritical Christians, like this lady, are incredible annoying. Every time I hear their complain is like, really? You are kidding, right? I mean, they set such an example for other Christians, yeah right. It is more like "do what I say not what I do" while I check my Ashley Madison account
Will gay marriage show us all the perfection of love? Will gay marriage teach us all how to spend our lives together in wonderful and peaceable harmony? Will gay marriage teach us all to get along
and live peaceably forever? Will gay marriage end all wars, heal all wounds, feed all the people and make global climate change no longer an issue.
Somehow I think they won't be any better.
You think?
Of course not! But that's not even the goal. The goal is to grant exactly the same legal rights heteros have. MAny of them will make the same stupid mistake of marrying the wrong person -that's their right just like yours or mine.
Why would they need to look for a different office to get married? She is a public server. I say give her hell, let her think about her messed up Christian life in jail for a little while. My opinion only though
Cheers!
PS. To top it, Tebow was released by the Eagles! I sincerely feel bad for him. Not NFL caliber but an all around good guy. We Christians can't get a break.


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09-07-2015 12:32 AM  3 years agoPost 59
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What is this about guaranteeing a job? How does that enter into this? Are you running out of arguing points?
That is actually the last argument I think you could have possibly made. Maybe I'm wrong. The argument being that Kim Davis should be able to keep her job even though she cannot fulfill it.

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09-07-2015 12:57 AM  3 years agoPost 60
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The argument being that Kim Davis should be able to keep her job even though she cannot fulfill it.
I think she should vacate if she wants to make a stand for her beliefs.
since she was ELECTED if she can't fulfill her role then she must stand down.
If the person had been hired and not elected then they should be given the choice to quit or re-assignment.

the govern ment and religion are suppose to be kept from one another
so that government could continue serving all the people regardless of their faith.
If they start letting religion into government policies then it all goes to poop.

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