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07-14-2015 04:33 AM  3 years agoPost 1
Double E

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So unless someone can help me find one of the older Vario UH-1D or Bell 205 build threads, I guess I'll have to start a new one.

I picked up an unbuilt Vario Bell 205 kit designed for the Jetcat PHT3-3 turbine and mechanics. I was also fortunate enough to find a used but in good condition PHT3-3 for a great price. So now the build begins.

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07-14-2015 04:42 AM  3 years agoPost 2
Double E

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Can anyone tell me how concerned I should be about the turbine exhaust hitting the tail. I've heard some stories of mechanical failures and damaged glass due to the heat. If it's a real concern what solutions have people come up with?

I'm thinking about inserting a stainless steel deflector inside the exhaust pipe. Something like a V shape that will deflect hot exhaust to each side rather than strait out the rear

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07-14-2015 04:48 AM  3 years agoPost 3
Double E

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Would it help to skin the front of the tail with a thin sheet of aluminum or something to help shield the tail unit from the hot exhaust?

Now that I've spooled up the turbine I can certainly see the potential for the hot exhaust damaging the tail.

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07-14-2015 06:19 AM  3 years agoPost 4
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I'm so jealous...lol. I want a turbine too...it'll be a few years...I have a friend on here I do business with and they have scale cobra that about 7 ft long...waiting for the day to go pick that one up.

Joel
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07-14-2015 06:20 AM  3 years agoPost 5
SSMKN2

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My century one has an aluminum side on one side of the tail so as to access the helo tail mechanics...it couldn't hurt. But also remember you will have the cooling effects of the rotor wash as well...

Joel
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07-14-2015 08:33 PM  3 years agoPost 6
Double E

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Joel,

If you're into scale helicopters then you should definitely make the trip up to Dalton for the event. It's a relatively small venue but you'll see lots of nice scale helicopters and meet some great people from the scale helicopter community.

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07-14-2015 08:52 PM  3 years agoPost 7
ssmith512

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SWEET!!

Will enjoy seeing this heli come together. I love me some Huey!

I too am curious about the exhaust heat and its effect on the tail fiberglass and mechanics. Didnt even think about that and I am knee deep into my first turbine build.

Steve

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07-14-2015 09:31 PM  3 years agoPost 8
modtron

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Double E,

I've done many of the turbine Huey's and 212 - yes the exhaust is hot but never had any issues with heat on the tail mouldings or gearbox.

modtron
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07-15-2015 12:13 AM  3 years agoPost 9
Double E

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So I'm enlisting the help of the entire community. I'm looking for a Vietnam era Huey as a subject helicopter to model my aircraft after. Anyone out there have any recommendations and detailed documentation on a subject helicopter? I'm most interested in a typical "Slick" configuration with or without door guns. I won't be scaling out the interior cargo or passenger area because the mechanics make that nearly impossible but I will be installing a scale cockpit with pilot and co-pilot.

If there are any subject helicopters in the Atlanta area or even the state of Georgia I'll make a trip to complete a walk around.

There is a memorial in South Georgia that has one on display but it is surrounded by a fence which will make getting detailed images difficult.

I'm open to a medivac scheme similar to the photo posted by Modtron.

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07-15-2015 12:44 AM  3 years agoPost 10
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For those that have built one of these large helicopters, how critical is it to eliminate all wobble in the head? I've spooled up the turbine with the scale head minus the blades and there is a minor oscillation. Obviously I'd prefer to have a completely smooth spool up but before I spend a bunch of time chasing it down I want to know if it's normal and whether or not I need to worry about it.

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07-15-2015 03:11 AM  3 years agoPost 11
Heli143

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Hey doubleE
I have some Huey pics of a Huey at the museum in Birmingham.

It is on a high pedestal mount but I think I have enough pics to replicate.

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07-15-2015 03:46 AM  3 years agoPost 12
Double E

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Heli143,

Those are some great photos. If you have some additional pics I'd love to have them for reference when I get started on my panels and rivets.

I don't think it's the same Huey variant that I'm building because the nose and air intakes are a bit different. I'd also prefer to model a helicopter that actually saw service during the Vietnam War. I don't think they used the white lettering and star and bars for the slicks that flew during the war.

Thanks for the help. Keep the submissions coming.

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07-15-2015 04:24 AM  3 years agoPost 13
Double E

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I think I hit the jackpot and found the Army Aviation Heritage Foundation in Hampton GA which is less than an hour from my house. Looks like they have several active Hueys in their hanger.

http://www.armyav.org/the-hangar.html

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07-15-2015 11:40 AM  3 years agoPost 14
Heli143

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PM me your email and I will send you all the pics I have.

If anything you can use it for scale details as I have a few of the bottom of the heli also, an area which is ignored a lot.

In Vietnam, there were various color schemes used and I have seen pics of helis with the white letters flying there.

Look forward to seeing your Huey at Dalton!
I may even have my Huey there (finally)

Roy Mayoral

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07-17-2015 02:08 AM  3 years agoPost 15
Double E

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I found my subject helicopter. Took a little drive down to Army Aviation Heritage Foundation and met a few of the people behind the scenes. Incredibly nice people. I took my model with me to show them what I was working on and they loved it, especially when I spooled up the turbine for them. I crawled around 624 for about an hour and took approximately 200 high res photos to capture as much detail as possible. Here is a pic of the two Hueys they have in the hanger.

624 has an incredible history which included multiple crashes in Vietnam. Check it out.

http://www.armyav.org/624.html

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07-17-2015 05:22 AM  3 years agoPost 16
Double E

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Here is a link to all the photos from my walk around.

https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B035oqs3qGdmnF0

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07-17-2015 05:00 PM  3 years agoPost 17
chopper37

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D E.
Fantastic photos thanks for sharing them, now I need one to build

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07-17-2015 06:44 PM  3 years agoPost 18
doorman

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Nice Project!!
Isn't if a great feeling when you can find your documentation right in your back yard..
Think that is why I like scale so much... the research is just another part of the build...
It seems that each scale unit that I have done, has always led me to great people that are always happy to share the info needed..
Good luck with your project, and hope to meet you at Dalton later in the season...

Stan

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07-18-2015 12:54 AM  3 years agoPost 19
Double E

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Stan,

We have probably met. I came out to Dalton last year with my 90 size Hughes 500D in the red and white paint scheme. I was the guy flying more aerobatic than scale. I had a great time and am looking toward flying the Huey this year. It may still be in white or grey primer but it should be flying.

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07-18-2015 02:27 AM  3 years agoPost 20
doorman

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Yes I Do..
I do remember seeing your 500 cruise'n around last year... you were definitely enjoying your machine
Looking forward to seeing the Huey...
C U there...
Stan

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