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06-25-2015 09:03 PM  4 years ago
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erikb

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Blade 450 fly barless conversion
Im wondering why the motor is bigger in the flybarless helicopter. The flybarless is more efficient so why the bigger motor. I am getting new servos and a new head assy. I don't think I need to change the motor any ideas. Anyone try the tarot head for a direct fit?
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06-25-2015 10:00 PM  4 years ago
Str8wing

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You don't need the bigger motor. The manufacturers want to sell flybarless. So, they sell a flybarless kit (and a bigger motor). You go out and fly your heli and say "Gee, it really flies great with the FBL. Much better than the flybar...". You see the sleight of hand there? It flies better because of the bigger motor, not the FBL. A top level (pro) heli pilot might be able to tell the difference between a flybar vs. FBL with all things equal (servos, batteries, etc.). FBL and electronic stabilization are the way things are going now though.

Mark Twain said: "It's a whole lot easier to dupe (fool) a man than to convince him he has been duped. His pride won't allow it."

Erik, your question shows you're a little (maybe a lot) sharper than the average American consumer.
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06-25-2015 10:07 PM  4 years ago
erikb

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Thx ..although to me flybarless is on rails..I enjoy fff much more now
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06-26-2015 11:51 AM  4 years ago
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In response to the conversion,
I butchered my Trex 450 head and got rid of the flybar and there is definitely an improvement in the flight characteristics as well as the original motors ability to swing the blades

My motivation was a cheap FBL unit and being used to larger nitro was looking to stabilise the 'hard work' 450 lol.

With the addition of a stabilisation unit it also makes the little blighter feel a lot more stable (which of course is down to the FBL unit/settings)

Have a stab, keep your current motor etc.

Definitely worth it
Non-3D heli pilots are planker spys trying to bring down the heli community from the inside - Topher
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06-29-2015 01:07 PM  4 years ago
meowguy

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Ditto, you don't need a new motor. Keep the old one and fly longer flights. Biggest thing that improves performance is new batteries. I am using an Align 3GX V.5 controller with Spektrum receivers. So it started life as a 3D, then evolved into a 450X with BeastX, then into a 3GX 450x. The latter being the best so far.

And the only bling you should think about adding would be metal gear servos. The rest is unnecessary.
"Sweet dreams and flying machines in pieces on the ground." J. Taylor
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06-29-2015 04:24 PM  4 years ago
erikb

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yep new metal servo gears on the way..
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