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06-21-2015 09:03 PM  5 years ago
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Agilefalcon

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Hatori out of business
I've been using Hatori products since 1984 on helicopters and pattern planes - well, like all good things, they are coming to an end and going out of business.

Apparently, a new company "M-Studio" will be making products similar to Hatori's, but I've no idea how good they will be - I'm going to order something to try and find out.

For now, these new mufflers are only available to international customers via rcjapan.net.

http://mufflerstudio.web.fc2.com
Chris Berardi
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06-21-2015 09:09 PM  5 years ago
Jason Cummings

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copied from another site
Hi
Sorry about the refund. The story being spread by R C Japan is wrong. Hatori Models is not out of business. He discontinued the 120 and 105 pipes. They were selling poorly in Japan. He ran out of 45mm dia pipe and to keep the price the same would have had to buy enough material that would last 3 years at the rate they were selling. So he made a decision to discontinue them.
Hope this help clarify the situation. I have plenty of stock of the other pipes
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RIchard
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06-22-2015 01:46 AM  5 years ago
EEngineer

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pattern planes
Me too, since 1985, when I first got a YS 60 2-cycle for pattern.
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06-22-2015 03:20 PM  5 years ago
Rob43

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I am becoming skeptical. When I first caught wind of this, I simply emailed Richard at Hatori USA. He didn't say Hatori was going out of business, but went on to say that the owner may retire. Becoming too hard to run the small factory with his employees with low demand for nitro products.

That doesn't simply sound like discontinuing only the big OS105 and YS120 pipes like the more recent update I read.

I can't see another investor buying this business at this time, so call it like you see it. Just not enough nitro demand.
Rob
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06-22-2015 04:50 PM  5 years ago
Glenn Goodlett

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Anybody else notice that the M Studio pipe looks just like the Powerboost pipe?
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06-22-2015 04:55 PM  5 years ago
don s

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I thought OS PB was Funtech?

Also, RCJ hasn't sent a retraction...
E820, Raptor G4N, X50F/E, E620, Forza 450, and some planks.
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06-23-2015 02:24 AM  5 years ago
Glenn Goodlett

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The Funtek looks different to me. The Funtek does not have the bulge at the manifold like the Powerboost and M Studio. And I think the exhaust outlet is off center on the Funtek.

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06-23-2015 04:02 AM  5 years ago
don s

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I think FT did some of the older PBs. 2nd and 3rd pic look the same to me.E820, Raptor G4N, X50F/E, E620, Forza 450, and some planks.
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06-23-2015 06:00 AM  5 years ago
Aaron29

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I am becoming skeptical. When I first caught wind of this, I simply emailed Richard at Hatori USA. He didn't say Hatori was going out of business, but went on to say that the owner may retire. Becoming too hard to run the small factory with his employees with low demand for nitro products.
Plot thickens?

This is worrisome. When the brains of an organization leaves, it often seems to spell the beginning of the decline. It really depends upon how much they leaned on him for the culture and direction of the company. But I'm afraid people who take over an organization after the founder leaves tend to treat it like a cash cow.
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06-23-2015 06:10 AM  5 years ago
blaiz1

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Hard mount is horrible idea
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06-23-2015 06:12 AM  5 years ago
Aaron29

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Hasn't failed me yet. And Hatori makes hard mount stuff, too.
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06-23-2015 07:18 AM  5 years ago
EEngineer

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Port it...and see the increased engine performance.
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08-09-2015 05:09 AM  5 years ago
sonnyhad

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What do you mean, port it?Bald Pilots usually wear hats!
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08-09-2015 05:48 AM  5 years ago
EEngineer

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By "porting" it I mean the following...

"Porting" is slang for exactly matching the engine's exhaust port size/dimensions to the "flange" of the header that is bolted to the engine's exhaust port.

To "tune" a pipe to one's 2-cycle engine, any exhaust "reflections" should be minimized...to the extent possible...except for the "baffle" at the aft end of one's pipe.

A mismatch between the engine's exhaust port relative to the exhaust port size of any given header will cause minor undesirable effects.

Eliminate these effects...it's easy to do.

With your current header, "lap" the flange using 220 and some machine oil to remove the "black"....with a new header, you don't have to do this.

Install/Re-install the header and run a tank full.

Remove the header, and you'll see the mismatch pattern on the header flange(black residue...and all header flanges are oversized so that they can be ported...if you want to do that).

Use your Dremel to "flair" the header flange into the engine's exhaust port dimensions...using the "black" as the guide. Polish it up "nice and smooth"...and be meticulous about cleaning an "machining debris".

Re-install...and you're ported.

FWIW
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08-09-2015 01:18 PM  5 years ago
TattooArtist

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Do you have any pics of a ported pipe?Team Synergy ,RcRcc,
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08-09-2015 07:30 PM  5 years ago
Aaron29

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Gents, this thread rightfully should have stayed dead. Please start another thread with your question and I implore EE to answer you there instead of here so as to avoid having "hatori out of business" (a falsehood) continuing to pop up at top of discussion topics.

Or take it to PM.

Or if the OP reads this, close this topic.

Anything but this. LOL

FWIW I realize the irony of that fact that this post will bump this thread to the top... but since the last post was a question it's not like another post would not be forthcoming regardless.

Thanks!
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08-10-2015 04:44 AM  5 years ago
EEngineer

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Anything but this.
NP, went PM.

I now know that you're not a "port and tuner" kinda guy.....

j/k
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