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06-18-2015 04:23 AM  5 years ago
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Obamacare: they don't know where the money went
Feds Can’t Verify $2.8 Billion in Obamacare Subsidies

The federal government cannot verify nearly $3 billion in subsidies distributed through Obamacare, putting significant taxpayer funding “at risk,” according to a new audit report.

The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) Office of Inspector General (OIG) released an audit Tuesday finding that the agency did not have an internal system to ensure that subsidies went to the right enrollees, or in the correct amounts.

“[The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services] CMS’s internal controls did not effectively ensure the accuracy of nearly $2.8 billion in aggregate financial assistance payments made to insurance companies under the Affordable Care Act during the first four months that these payments were made,” the OIG said.

http://freebeacon.com/issues/feds-c...care-subsidies/

Obamacare = Train Wreck
90% of life is "showing up"
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06-18-2015 04:25 AM  5 years ago
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They can just print more next week. E820, Raptor G4N, X50F/E, E620, Forza 450, and some planks.
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06-18-2015 04:43 AM  5 years ago
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Heck, they're printing tomorrow.
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06-18-2015 05:02 AM  5 years ago
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Inept? corupt? both? No matter what the reason is, less government is the solution.

Ron Paul's ambitions to shut down large portions of federal government used to seem a bit extreem to me, now they seem not extreem enough.
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06-18-2015 05:07 AM  5 years ago
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Wada ya mean they don't know where the $$$ WENT ??

A Box of Kleenex in a Hospital for a Indigenous Citizen is $5.00 !

Use the Toilet paper ! That 's FREE !

The Multi National Indigenous Health Care System : !

Know any body that does -- or the Medical Coding System ??

Don't try to Figure it OUT ! It's a Question of THE HEART
Let the Gloris Un Fold

How MANY did Sgt Tamorisi in a Mexican Hooch Cost ??

200,000 ?

This story is just beginning ! Wait and See !

THEY ARE Victim's of the Administration : It's a MESS !!
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06-18-2015 08:19 AM  5 years ago
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Ron Paul's ambitions
Were to not get involved with WW2.
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06-18-2015 12:01 PM  5 years ago
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Same as all the rest of us untill Pearl Harbor...
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06-18-2015 12:27 PM  5 years ago
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Has anyone ever estimated how many lives and dollars were needless wasted by us keeping our heads in the sand until the Japanese kicked us in the a$$?

I'd bet it would be an astronomical number!
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!
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06-18-2015 01:35 PM  5 years ago
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The idiots don't care it's not their money. They piss away billions. What's another 3 or 4?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-official-says/

Here's another 500 million pissed away.

Mike
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06-19-2015 12:55 AM  5 years ago
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Same as all the rest of us untill Pearl Harbor...
Not quite....but Paul said what he said after the conclusion of WW2.

FDR didn't feel that way and a deal was struck to obtain several carribean islands from the UK in exchange for destroyers in 1940, well before Pearl.

But, the majority of the population was isolationist.
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06-19-2015 01:24 AM  5 years ago
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Pearl Harbor - which may not have happened if we butted out of the war.

We were arming the Allies with supplies.

Not saying this is wrong. Not saying we "provoked" or "deserved" an attack.

But I am saying that we weren't truly isolationist. We were very involved and our diplomacy was undermining the Axis effort. Also, our eventual entry into the war was probable. The Japanese bombed us to gain strategic advantage in the Pacific. They did underestimate our response, however.

Honestly. Looking at history, their move against Pearl Harbor was strategically smart. Luck was on our side, however, in that by fluke, much of the fleet survived. Then in another fluke we won the battle of Midway. Sometimes, it's an act of God that determines the outcome, not good chessplay. But the Japanese by all measures SHOULD have attained Pacific regional superiority and been safe from our attack, which was eventual. FDR wanted in that war BADLY.

The irony is our delay to rush to war is what turned us into a superpower. Only after Britian and Europe were nearly crushed did we enter the war. And our industry was going 100% while England and Europe were nearly in ruins.

Our dragging feet contributed into turning us into a global juggernaut.

Empires rise and fall. Trying to play king of the mountain all the time is really difficult! Sometimes, just watching the game and then tackling a weak leader is the better move.

Watch China. They think this way - Long term. Strategically. They WILL rule, one day, if we don't get our debt and war machine functioning at more reasonable levels. Because their eye is on the distant horizon.
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06-19-2015 01:32 AM  5 years ago
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Pearl Harbor - which may not have happened if we butted out of the war.
Nope....

They intended to take the Phillipines which was our territory....and they knew how we would respond.

Our "butting" out would be tantamount to surrendering the Phillipines to the Japs even before Pearl.

Wasn't going to ever happen.
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06-19-2015 02:32 AM  5 years ago
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I can't believe that anyone would be happy if history showed that we sat idly by while millions were being murdered in Asia and Europe.
Not to mention that if the Japanese hadn't gotten us off of our a$$es and into the war we wouldn't have been to first to get the A bomb, changing history much to the worse for us and the world.
Sticking your head in the sand while problems grow is no way to live a successful life!
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!
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06-19-2015 02:51 AM  5 years ago
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Get the new 16,500 irs agents to trace every penny the goofs have spent!!!!

Let the goofs be responsible for the national treasure they have managed into trillions and trillions and trillions of debt

At least be equal to how a business is treated from the irs Goofs
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06-19-2015 02:54 AM  5 years ago
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WWII was 70 year's ago / So Wada YA Knoe it was ALL about Obama CARE

So far not much if any a touch of reality - Maybe a SMIDGIN

Make Up sum stuff - Like Shark's with Lazer Beam's that didn't pay their TAX's: and Cut his doodle off. Ask Angie or Wiki

They have OVER Written the Detail's and Fact's of History / Took Your Book's - Took not much over 50 year's too do it.

Most Homes do NOT eve have a World Map of ANY DETAIL

So Make Up Crap

How About ? OBAMA commi pinko diaper's for the dependent's in Servitude ? Under the YOKE

LEt's get on the Cover of the Rollin Stone and Blow up Boston so we can get artificial Arm's and Leg's from OBAMA CARE
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06-19-2015 03:43 AM  5 years ago
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I can't believe that anyone would be happy if history showed that we sat idly by while millions were being murdered in Asia and Europe.
Except we kinda did for a bit.

Between 1938 and our entry into the war, we watched Hitler invade Sudetenland, Poland, France, Russia. Watched him bomb the hell out of England. Watched Japan invade China.

And look at WWI. We nearly waited until it was over.

And in more recent times we've watched Libya, Egypt, Burma, Rwanda, Syria. As I type this, ISIS runs through the middle east.

And we make no move.

All strategic.

At some point, we might enter the mideast again, but it will be very calculated, and only after the contestants are thinned out a little, and only when it suits our national agenda.

We fight wars for our own purposes and survival and for every "righteous" cause out there. And good thing, too!
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06-19-2015 05:12 AM  5 years ago
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And look at WWI. We nearly waited until it was over.
Well, the US was definitely isolationist then....yet another European war.

We didn't declare war until April of 1917...wasn't "almost over" then.

What was almost over were the hideous casualties inflicted because of the WMD called the Maxim machine gun and the 18th century infantry tactics.

WWI was over tactically when Belgium refused to let the "hun" cruise through to attack France...via the Shlieffen plan in 1914.

After that, it stagnated into trench warfare.

It was only because of Gen. "Black Jack" Pershing that we didn't become a "replacement depot" from the insane tactics of the British.

And Pershing insiste upon a "modern army" led by US commanders...not Brits.

And in the summer of 1918, we were "over there" and attacked.

One cannot simplify such events in a one statement as you do.

No offense intended
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06-19-2015 05:14 AM  5 years ago
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And one cannot say with all assurance that jumping into every conflict on the planet is a good idea.
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06-19-2015 06:08 AM  5 years ago
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But, one can say that your simplistic knowledge of US history is only exceeded by your ignorance of world history.

FWIW
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06-19-2015 06:23 AM  5 years ago
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You need to go to bed. CRANKY!
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