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06-17-2015 08:15 AM  5 years ago
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Crazy Horse

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One rogue wire and everyone goes crazyyyy :D
HAHA ok so just throwing this out there for a fun less serious topic....

Has anyone else noticed that a lot of guys are obsessed with their wiring on a heli looking uber clean??

Yes I know its personal preference and efficiency and blah blah blah.....

Some guys just spend a lot of time making sure everything is hidden and just the right length and and and

I have to admit I thought it looked kinda cool with wires going everywhere also ever seen Curtis' heli man thing looked like a rat nest of wires

lol flame if ya must just wanted a little light discussion on all of this wiring craze...
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06-17-2015 08:44 AM  5 years ago
Aaron29

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I'll bite.

I love the look of a tidy wire setup, but most of it is form over function. You need strain relief, and that's it. Beyond that, some of the setups I've seen go so far as to make it difficult to change out a servo, etc without some major disassembly or undoing of the bundling. One setup was beautiful...a Logo 600 with the wires all ran INSIDE the frames. Looked pristine, but dang it if I would want to work on that heli. Another issue with tidy setups is I've also seen folks run their wires so tight that they don't have strain relief. In that case, the form is negatively affecting the function as it is likely to cause a broken wire at some point.

My two cents: they all look the same once the canopy is on and it's flying. I don't buy them to stare at them. Bird's nests aren't good because you can accidentally pull on wires. But so long as the wiring has strain relief, it can look pretty ugly and still be functional.

That said, for those who value aesthetics over all else, the tidy setups do look good. But like all art, I can admire it without wanting to replicate it.
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06-17-2015 10:42 AM  5 years ago
Richardmid1

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I wire for ease of getting the heli flying in the first place and to make life easier if it goes in. A few cable ties here and there and im done. My helis are to fly not to look at.

Also the more time and effort you put into making your heli look neat and tidy the more pucker factor while your flying it and your progress will suffer.
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06-17-2015 11:58 AM  5 years ago
Heli_Splatter

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No matter how well it works, you are judged on neatness. It is a fact, get used to it. It does not take that much work to make it look good. Tie things down and start with an aim to be professional.

It has to be serviceable, so don't make it impossible to disassemble. Components go bad and wire can rub and chafe.

Don't you love it when someone has it all balled up but it looks good? Function always before appearance.
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06-17-2015 12:08 PM  5 years ago
Retired2011

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Seems to me that the neater I make it, the sooner I crash it.

I don't care for rats nests though.
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06-17-2015 01:43 PM  5 years ago
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Wow,I'm glad that I'm not the only one that couldn't give a rats A** what the wiring on a heli looks like. I always found the neater the wiring the harder it was to service. Don't get me wrong I do like machines that look organized and if I build a machine for someone else the wiring is made to look pretty. My personal machines I wire for 1:serviceability, 2:wires are secured so they don't get into or rub on any moving parts or come unhooked and 3:carbon frames edges must be sanded smooth so wires do not chafe.
My two cents: they all look the same once the canopy is on and it's flying. I don't buy them to stare at them.
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06-17-2015 03:29 PM  5 years ago
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1:serviceability, 2:wires are secured so they don't get into or rub on any moving parts or come unhooked and 3:carbon frames edges must be sanded smooth so wires do not chafe.
+1 on that !
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06-17-2015 03:30 PM  5 years ago
RM3

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I sometimes feel like those that go overboard with trimming the wire, special sheathing, wire labels, hiding everything... maybe trying to compensate for something...

I do an install thats good enough for me cause my helis are working flying machines... my helis are not prissy photo models.
showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...
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06-17-2015 05:22 PM  5 years ago
Ronald Thomas

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I like em neat, I just built this for a fellow pilot:


I think it just looks better and what service do I need to do that the wiring is affected (unless a big crash and in that case wiring does not matter)?
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06-17-2015 05:28 PM  5 years ago
RM3

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unless a big crash and in that case wiring does not matter
it actually does. A fellow pilot went thru all that trouble and one crash later resulted in wires being pulled out of servos, shorted ESC, damaged leads that were cut by wire ties and a general PITA to go thru and rebuild as he decided to go thru all that malarkey to get it back the way it was.

IMHO if you like that sorta thing, go for it, its your heli after all...

as for me, not worth all the trouble to go to the point of making it look like the whole thing is "wireless"
showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...
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06-17-2015 05:30 PM  5 years ago
gologo

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Function always before appearance.
Think that is pretty much my life motto.. function/utility/versatility, and
THEN make it look halfway decent.

You guys are pretty spot on.....route and secure the wiring away from moving
parts/chafing and then bundle up at the receiver (actually been using small strips of velcro instead of zipties last few years), and I am good to go.

Canopy takes care of hiding it all just fine as Aaron said.
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06-17-2015 05:39 PM  5 years ago
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Ron that is a very nice job! But as mentioned above, I will just admire it, and
not try to replicate it
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06-17-2015 05:41 PM  5 years ago
Aaron29

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Yeah Ron that does look good. Nice work.
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06-17-2015 05:46 PM  5 years ago
Ronald Thomas

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Thanks guys ,

I think I am more paranoid of it going down because of a loose or unsecured wire than overly done and that is why I go to extremes sometimes.
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06-17-2015 06:21 PM  5 years ago
don s

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special sheathing
prevents
damaged leads that were cut by wire ties
I fall into the neat rat's nest category.
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06-17-2015 08:52 PM  5 years ago
Gyronut

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To each their own, I prefer to make things tidy with all sharp edges removed that can cut into wiring.Rick
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06-17-2015 10:22 PM  5 years ago
Heli_Splatter

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Just because you put snakeskin or shrink tubing over a servo wire has not improved the appearance and made it better.
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06-18-2015 01:10 AM  5 years ago
EEngineer

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Yeah Ron that does look good. Nice work.
Very nice.

And that's a great idea to cut that slot in the aft deck...lining it with "edge guard" to route the wiring to the Neo....nice.

I've always disliked the way it looks with the wiring coming around to the FBL....
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06-18-2015 01:36 AM  5 years ago
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And that's a great idea to cut that slot in the aft deck...lining it with "edge guard" to route the wiring to the Neo....nice.
+1
I need to try that on one of my helis.
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