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06-01-2015 04:46 AM  3 years agoPost 1
spaceman spiff

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06-01-2015 05:16 AM  3 years agoPost 2
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Fwiw..

With any luck....Rand Paul at the podium.......

There is a much simpler way to protect the U.S.....Simply make it clear that ANY attack on U.S. Soil or interests will be traced to the country of origin, with disastrous consequence..Make our safety the responsibility of the rest of the world, converse of the system in place since WW 2....All we need is the will to make a few cities glass, and this will stop.

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06-01-2015 06:23 AM  3 years agoPost 3
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There was nothing patriotic about it. It undermined the fourth and fifth Amendments. I won't miss it. We can deal with threats. We can't deal with a loss of basic freedoms. I truly believe that the NSA/CIA can defeat this threat while maintaining our basics rights. They can do it within the bounds of the constitution. We can be safe as well as free.

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06-01-2015 02:33 PM  3 years agoPost 4
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Tell that to Boston / Fort Hood / Oklahoma / New York City : Endless

What you Do Not Know Will Not Hurt You
They can do it within the bounds of the constitution. We can be safe as well as free.
Mute Point any way " Didn't Work " it was a Failure out of the gate

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06-01-2015 03:46 PM  3 years agoPost 5
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Don't worry, the republicans will bring it back. They are not happy with what Paul did. And with republicans in charge of both houses, you will have no one else to blame but them.

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06-01-2015 04:54 PM  3 years agoPost 6
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DON'T need it !

Never really had too either !

No better than the CCTV : Post Reactionary

The very tool's used to go around are NOW a Extreme Lucrative position for National Security and Economics .

It will be a regular Mountain top Experience

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06-01-2015 05:06 PM  3 years agoPost 7
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Republicans, furious at Sen. Rand Paul (R-Kentucky), are accusing him of jeopardizing national security to further his presidential campaign.
Perhaps they should listen to themselves. Maybe consider furthering their own campaigns by respecting limits on government intrusion?

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06-01-2015 05:30 PM  3 years agoPost 8
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"National Security" becomes moot when you can't recognize your country anymore.

Case in point. North Korea is secure.

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06-01-2015 05:53 PM  3 years agoPost 9
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The very tool's used to go around are NOW a Extreme Lucrative position for National Security and Economics .
It will be a regular Mountain top Experience
Yep......It is now as American as apple pie....

The news stories and soundbites are just there to appease the sheep.....or goats...such they be.

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06-01-2015 05:55 PM  3 years agoPost 10
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Who care's about North Korea ? or ANY of Them ???

They March around with Mum's and Spin in Flowerier circles at a Dog Whistle or a Drum Beat just to eat for the day.

Even CRY on Command

Then all Night Think about eating tomorrow. Like all of them

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06-01-2015 07:23 PM  3 years agoPost 11
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Yes but they have great national security. Lol

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06-02-2015 01:24 AM  3 years agoPost 12
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"Patriot act" finally over?"
Have to wait for the SEC filings by Yahoo, Microsoft, Apple, Google, Verizon, ATT, etc.

In those filings will be the accounting of payments received by the govt. for access to the internet bit-streams.

They don't just sneak up and attach a tap.

They(we the taxpayers) pay these companies and pay for the installation of this sophisticated hardware/software.

If you read the Snowden files, the top secret paragraphs were about the very technique....and they wanted no one to know this.

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06-02-2015 02:12 AM  3 years agoPost 13
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Where are other presidential canidates on this? I am hoping for this so called "Patriot" act to end as it was originally intended. It may be fine-ish now, but people forget governments can and do go bad. Ours is not imune to that.

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06-02-2015 03:24 AM  3 years agoPost 14
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Current administration immediately turned it into JUNK, or as a Tool it was NEVER intended to be used for .

Their ORIGINALLY were strict 4th amendment protection's in it : They went around it - It is now something it was never intended for. It did have VERY specific restriction's.

JUNK is Junk. Only time Junk is Not Junk ;

Is when someone want's too buy it = OBAMA Took the Data in Bulk now a tool in suspicious activity. Demographic behavior of population's.

Tool of Socialism conversion

Their is a Very Definite Need for NATIONAL SECURITY !

IF : The Fed level Authorities " Clinton " had acted on the knowledge that was provided : The 911 Event would NEVER had happened !

2001 was the Second Event ! They absolutely Knew

Buy a Copy of the Commission Report and READ - It could have been prevented : Long Prior to the Patriot Act ! It's Junk NOW - Take away the tool in the Tool Box from OBAMA

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06-02-2015 04:51 AM  3 years agoPost 15
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Is that baloney...or malarkey...can't tell which..

Do you pretend to be a "Navajo Code Talker"?

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06-02-2015 01:16 PM  3 years agoPost 16
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Not Our problem -THEIR Problem

CRBD is real; They say it is worse in California as a State, and they are finding dense cluster's in some of the Vertical Habitat Location's. { VHL's}
Is that baloney...or malarkey...can't tell which
Just don't lose your position in the Zombie line & remember what ya don't know won't hurt ya. Their going to swap out the Jelly Bean's ! on Wednesday. Some kinda powder you shake on your food for seasoning.

With OUT the Patriot Act : He's in the DARK It didn't work after a period any way. Like the TSA - " Misfit Toy's "

Kinda Like loosing Hillbillies Independent Foreign Communication Net work !

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06-02-2015 03:56 PM  3 years agoPost 17
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Do you pretend to be a "Navajo Code Talker"?
Greyeagle made my head hurt trying to decode what he says, so I reluctantly put him on my ignore list long ago. Sorry Greyeagle, nothing personal, just trying to keep from a migraine.

I think about the hereafter. I go somewhere to get something, then wonder what I'm here after ?

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06-02-2015 05:05 PM  3 years agoPost 18
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Where are other presidential canidates on this?
They have all attacked Paul for bring it to an end and have vowed to restore it. It will be restored within this week by the republican lead Congress.

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06-02-2015 05:06 PM  3 years agoPost 19
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Verily / Verily : Sincerely no problem what so ever - If they have Ear's let them hear

It's like the One who states : One bad apple in the barrel

It is NOT ONE bad Apple "in some Location's" : It's barrel's !

Some seed never grow's Fig's

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06-02-2015 06:48 PM  3 years agoPost 20
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They have all attacked Paul for bring it to an end and have vowed to restore it. It will be restored within this week by the republican lead Congress.
Turns out Ted Cruse and Rand Paul are standing up against it.

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