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05-26-2015 09:09 PM  3 years agoPost 1
Pistol Pete

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One of my cars, a 2001 camry with less than 90K miles suddenly stop running.

I was at a stop light when it started acting up. I was able to go pass the traffic light and pull over when the engine really started hesitating as in no power.

With engine still running, I was able to open hood and noticed just before it died that the plastic timing belt cover was moving as in something in there was trying to pop it off. I immediately assumed the timing belt just broke and was bunching up and then the engine stopped.

That was late last year. Fast forward to today when I finally get the chance to work on it and upon removing timing belt cover, the belt if fine.

However, the water pump gear has lots of play which explains why the plastic belt timing cover was trying to come off. Obviously out of alignment.

So...is this gear replaceable or do I (should I) replace the whole water pump? Do pump comes with this gear? Toyota dealer is not far from me and parts can be easily had.

This gear does not have a bolt with head but rather look more like a rivet.

Im mechanically inclined and have the tools but never have had to work on a "recent" toyota with side mounted engines as they seem to just last...sort of speaking.

Last toyota I worked on was a 68 corolla with automatic trans with shift on the column and a full bench seat in front. Back when you can cruise with arm over girlfriend.

I already purchased new engine mounts, timing belt and valve cover gasket.

These side mounted engines are definitely no cake walk. Seems I need to remove a wheel for better access as well.

Youtube has videos of such but would like to hear from the mechanic experts in here as to what else should I replaced in this area while everything is open and exposed. This is my beater car sort of speaking.

Any advise is appreciated.

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05-26-2015 09:57 PM  3 years agoPost 2
stail

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You need to replace the water pump as I suspect the pump bearings are failing.
You should also replace the timing belt.
Note: The position (rotation) of crank shaft and cam are very important so you need to line up the timing marks.
Try to get hold of a manual which covers your car or research the net.

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05-26-2015 10:19 PM  3 years agoPost 3
Pistol Pete

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Belt never broke so its safe to assume that the timing mark is spot on. I do have a new one standing by. Yes, I will align marks just in case.

Water pump gear definitely is out of alignment. I even saw a ball bearing loose inside the bottom dust cover. There is also oil, so some seal(s) must be replaced.

What I cant seem to get is the power steering belt. I don't see how it can be loosen to remove in order to get to the lower timing belt cover.

I very well may be over my head on this one.

Like I said, plenty of info out there but the proper manual with details is a miss. Those cheap onee at local auto part stores are just that...cheap in details.

Was hoping someone in here had dealt with this in particular. Thanks for feedback.

Toyotanation.com takes forever to get answers back unlike this forum.

Given the value of the car vs taking it to a mechanic is out of the question. This car should last another 90k easily.

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05-26-2015 10:57 PM  3 years agoPost 4
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Engine probably died because timing belt is slipping or throwing cogs. You havent described a problem yet that would stop the engine (a bad water pump or pully bearings wont). At least put it at tdc and check it before you take the old belt off so you will KNOW if the timing was off..better to know what you are fixing before you start ordering parts)

Fwiw i gave up on changing the timing belt on a transverse mounted civic about 20 years ago because it was just too tight to move around and it was too cheap to pay someone to just do it (and i hardly ever let anyone else do things, lol)

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05-27-2015 08:44 AM  3 years agoPost 5
shawmcky

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The water pump will come as a complete assembly,including pulley all assembled,no need to buy seals ect.New belt kit,what is the engine code,will help with info.If this Toyota has an interference engine,the belt may have jumped and caused internal damage,valve/piston collision,common event on modern belt type motors.

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05-27-2015 03:05 PM  3 years agoPost 6
Pistol Pete

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Thanks for replies. Im stuck on power steering belt. It should pivot like alternator did to loosen/remove but it hasnt or cant seem to find how.

So far still have all my knuckles intact.

Heading out to get some jacks in order to gain better access by removing front wheel.

Time and patience is on my side.

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05-27-2015 07:33 PM  3 years agoPost 7
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best to set the marks by hand and then move the slack toward the hydraulic tensioner get yourself a timing kit and h20 pump use the gsk that comes and add some permtex sealer around the rubber gsk that came with the kit. for added protection. but watch u tube vid to see where the slack goes then after pulling the pin to tighten the hydraulic tensioner. rotate the crank 2 full revolutions to make sure the marks stay lined up. if u jump u could smack the valves with the piston.

as far as the pump it might be on a adjuster look around the nut on the support bracket and there is probably a 13 mm bolt head hiding and once u loosen the nut, spin that bolt and it will loosen/pivot back. if not adjuster it may be seized to the bracket try using a pry bar to move it

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05-28-2015 01:11 PM  3 years agoPost 8
shawmcky

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2001 2.2 Camry?

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05-28-2015 01:19 PM  3 years agoPost 9
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Power steering!

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05-28-2015 03:00 PM  3 years agoPost 10
Riq

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watch u tube vid to see where the slack goes then after pulling the pin to tighten the hydraulic tensioner. rotate the crank 2 full revolutions to make sure the marks stay lined up. if u jump u could smack the valves with the piston.
Agreed. I did this in my brothers camry about 9 months ago, and getting the marks to stay lined up after putting tension back on was my greatest challenge. After I was done I read a few tricks on it. If you change out the water pump and timing belt, (and any other belts that may need as long as your there.) it will prob be good to go as a beater for another 100k.

Regardless, Not that bad a job, just as mentioned get a manual and watch youtube vids.

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05-28-2015 04:21 PM  3 years agoPost 11
Pistol Pete

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Thanks.

Getting some parts yesterday I asked to look at a new power steering pump and finally saw where and how to go about it.

Got my jacks, new belts, water pump and a few gaskets.

If all goes well, new battery, struts and springs.

Just need an air conditioned garage but that's definitely is not happening.

No flying until car is fixed.

Any decent manuals out there worth while? (for future reference as well)

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05-28-2015 04:36 PM  3 years agoPost 12
Riq

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Public libraries usu have mitchells online, and they are good, otherwise the factory manual is best.
Use haynes, or chiltons for what theyre worth. I use them a lot, just dont expect much and use a second source.

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05-28-2015 09:07 PM  3 years agoPost 13
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BTW...yes..a 2.2 4-cyl

Seem I need to remove lower pulley in order to remove lower dust cover to finally get to belt. Half a six pack later and I still have knuckles intact.

Oh yeah...power steering belt also removed. Tic-Toc.

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05-29-2015 01:40 PM  3 years agoPost 14
shawmcky

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Make sure you do not already have internal engine damage before you buy new parts,if the engine died could have been because valves and pistons hit!

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05-29-2015 01:52 PM  3 years agoPost 15
shawmcky

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Apparently the 2.2 motor does not damage valves if the belt gives out,so scratch the above

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05-29-2015 01:58 PM  3 years agoPost 16
Riq

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Yeah, its non-interference, but something people should be aware of when they decide to roll over 100k on their rides; the importance of the timing belt.

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05-29-2015 02:11 PM  3 years agoPost 17
shawmcky

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Too true,not many are non-interference these days!

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05-29-2015 03:02 PM  3 years agoPost 18
Lotus7

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Have not seen this mentioned before, but any signs of overheating ?
If water has seeped out of the water pump bearing, which can happen if so badly worn - and the water level has dropped below the temperature sensor, the sensor won't notice overheating and the gauge won't register it. Overheating would certainly start seizing the engine , first notice when driving by increasing loss of power
Not a rare thing , happened last year to a friend's Volvo - put in a replacement engine and , fortunately being careful , he stopped after some 5 km and lo and behold , low water level .Eventually traced to a leaking heater matrix- the passenger seat floor carpet was soaking wet - seldom travelled with a passenger

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05-29-2015 05:32 PM  3 years agoPost 19
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Shoot...now that you mentioned that. I see my radiator is not topped off nor the reservoir has any antifreeze.

I did not get any warnings other than the engine loosing power.

I did not notice the engine "idiot" light come on nor the temp gauge rise.

To be honest, I did not look at the gauge at that time as I was more concerned being stuck in the middle of a busy intersection during rush time. I was heading to the field for some flight time.

Today, I do have a very small pool of liquid right under water pump area. Its not oily. Before that nothing. Im leaning towards I must have done something other than jacking her for this to happen since yesterday as I quit working on the car by 6pm.

The slow drip was over jack where blue rag is. It pretty much has stopped since typing this among other things.

I did screw up and removed belt before marking anything and now I cant remove lower pulley bolt in order to remove it and eventually the lower dust cover. Luckily its the 5SFE engine and its one of those non-interference type. I need to keep the pulley from turning somehow.

I finally got an answer from the toyota forum. For $15 I can get a 2 day subscription to the Technical Information System "TIS" Link
where I can print to PDF file and if needed print to paper. I have a long day ahead of me doing such. Ebay has the two volume tech manuals at a cost of just over $100. (minus the electrical one which adds another $50) Link.

I just may end up buying the two vol set anyways as this car barely has 90k on it and Im not in the market for a new car nor someone else used car headache. Besides the newer camrys are smaller.

Thanks for feedback.

FWIW, I can move pulleys by hand indicating nothing is seized...hopefully.

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05-29-2015 05:41 PM  3 years agoPost 20
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Take out the starter and lock the crank using the starter teeth on the flywheel,make sure whatever you use is a good fit between the teeth.The leak would probably be coolant from the shot pump!

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