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05-07-2015 09:03 PM  6 years ago
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Maybe poking them is not the best thing to do, but the idea of killing someone that offends you can't be tolerated in western countries.

I'm not a Muslim and don't know what goes on inside the religion. All I know is what I see and read.

What I see and read is a great effort being exerted on the western world to be tolerant and accept Muslims.

I don't see or read anything more than a quiescent effort by Muslims to head off violence in any form.

The Muslim religion has to evolve or we will continue with this nonsense if we don't yield.

Muslims have to have foods prepared a certain way...I don't care.

Muslims forbid alcohol...I don't care.

Some Muslim women have to dress a certain way...I don't care.

I don't think a Jehovah Witness can drink coffee...I don't care.

Religion X or Y handles snakes or wears certain clothes...I don't care.

I'm sorry, but a cartoon is NO reason to kill people and the western world cannot yield to this...this I do care about.
+1 that.

Tolerance is one thing. Obedience to crazy demands is quite another.
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05-07-2015 09:06 PM  6 years ago
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DUDE!!! Really???? Christians have evolved.
Or in other words, they no longer truly follow the bible like so many preach. It is ok to bash gays based on the bible but like most that preach it, they ignore the rest. Got it, thanks!
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05-07-2015 09:16 PM  6 years ago
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My question is, why would you put yourself and your family or fellow countrymen in risk?
This kind of action offend all Muslims. However, the vast majority will get pissed and that's it. The problem here is that the radicals will overreact as usual. Why would anyone would do that is beyond me.
I would never do that and I think it is fool hardy to go looking for a fight.

I don't plan to host a KKK rally either.

But, Muslims need to evolve beyond killing for a cartoon.

There are courts in the western world to resolve hurtful, racist, or damaging conflicts.

There are even boycotts to discourage event centers from hosting offensive groups.

There is generally an official "condemning" statement issued by CAIR after a tragedy like this.

And one of CAIR's core principles reads:

CAIR condemns all acts of violence against civilians by any individual, group or state.

And maybe CAIR is doing a marvelous job of moving Muslims beyond third world solutions, but I don't see it yet.
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05-07-2015 09:17 PM  6 years ago
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They Never answer the REALLY GREAT Question

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What's wrong at your Place ???

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05-07-2015 09:20 PM  6 years ago
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Or in other words, they no longer truly follow the bible like so many preach. It is ok to bash gays based on the bible but like most that preach it, they ignore the rest. Got it, thanks!
ChrisC1, we live in a republic with civil laws. If gays have an issue because a bakery won't serve him some cookies, he can go to court.

Trying to absolve someone of something because somebody else did something is not valid.

Each person is responsible for his own actions.
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05-07-2015 09:22 PM  6 years ago
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Or in other words, they no longer truly follow the bible
Hmmmm you have a point there.

Pluss if we started stoning people every day they would stop telling us what to accept. Some one says something i dont like, thump thump thump... dead. Problem solved.
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05-07-2015 09:24 PM  6 years ago
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They STONE EM Every Day ! in FOUR STATES !

37 STATES you can MARRY your Mom !
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05-07-2015 09:32 PM  6 years ago
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spaceman spiff
Hmmmm you have a point there.
Pluss if we started stoning people every day they would stop telling us what to accept. Some one say somthing i dont like, thump thump thump... dead. Problem solved.
Perfect illustration.

The western world clashes with third world Muslim ideals.

I'm hoping we have made progress with Muslims in the US, but I don't know.

In the middle east where they dominate, killing and dying as a martyr is still around.

If we had many more Muslims, would relations become worse and more radical? Or would a larger majority of Muslims tend to tone down the radicals?
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05-07-2015 09:33 PM  6 years ago
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They STONE EM Every Day ! in FOUR STATES !
And it's legal.
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05-07-2015 09:56 PM  6 years ago
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Man you gota get in on the Brain Enhancement Jelly Bean DEAL !!!
OUR Scientist's Say So !

Just don't eat the Pop corn Flavored one with the Green Stripe !

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Just too see if the Parachutes are gona open

Wada GOOD DEAL !!

OH JESUS save Em ! PLEASE !
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05-07-2015 10:04 PM  6 years ago
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But, Muslims need to evolve beyond killing for a cartoon.
You mean "radical Muslims". Like any other radicals, including Christians, they are all crazy -no difference there. The problem I see is the generalization about Muslims. Most of them are tired of radicals too -not much they can do though. Same thing in the States, We are tired of Libtards, still Obama was elected ........ TWICE! Shall we label all Americans Libtards? No!
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Or in other words, they no longer truly follow the bible like so many preach. It is ok to bash gays based on the bible but like most that preach it, they ignore the rest. Got it, thanks!
Most Christians pick and choose. It is religion, or like they say, whatever floats your boat
Back again, in some places gays are killed and not only by Muslims, I am talking about bonafide Christians.

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05-07-2015 10:16 PM  6 years ago
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DUDE!!! Really???? Christians have evolved.
Or in other words, they no longer truly follow the bible like so many preach. It is ok to bash gays based on the bible but like most that preach it, they ignore the rest. Got it, thanks!
Well, I would say Christians have evolved. Especially when compared to radical Islam.

Now, speaking for myself, I no longer study the bible or quote scripture to others. I don't regularly go to church. But, every time gay marriage came up for a vote in my state, I voted it down. It makes no sense to me.

Mostly my objections are directed at the radical, thick headed and intolerant gay activists. I can't stand those people.

Having said that, I do recognize that people are changing on this matter and its coming wether I like it or not.

We'll have to see what SCOTUS says.
Liberty once lost, is lost forever.
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05-07-2015 10:19 PM  6 years ago
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Now your going REALLY Nutty : What happened ??

Christian's DO NOT PICK and CHOOSE :

WHO CHOOSES ?? It NOT the CHRISTIAN EITHER - It's JESUS

Bona Fide Christian's do NOT KILL GAY"S
On some day's they may wash feet !
\Most Christians pick and choose. It is religion, or like they say, whatever floats your boat
Back again, in some places gays are killed and not only by Muslims, I am talking about bonafide Christians.
What Else ya Got ? a Curse ?? Nail Fungus ??

Where do they cook this stuff ?? ? The Island's ??

What's behind Door #3 ??

Xterra ? You wana go for a Ride on a Moon Rocket

P.S> Far as Floating the Boat ??

JESUS was a Winking in the Back of that BOAT !
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05-07-2015 10:26 PM  6 years ago
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Instead of being offended by my spelling........care to comment on the content.
Or are you just too offended too carry-on.

That's the whole point.....they think to kill.....over a joke.

Some get very emotional.

Are some of you guys sticking up for these murderers?
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05-07-2015 10:27 PM  6 years ago
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Each person is responsible for his own actions.
Exactly. My issue is with people that use the bible to back their dislike of something the ignore the rest of the bible.

Just like the constitution, so many are so quick to use it to back what they feel is right, but then ignore that fact that it is for everyone. So many are saying that Muslims should not be able to practice their religion, yet they ignore the fact that the 1st Amendment gives them that right.

That is my point. If you are going to use a document to back your belief, then you must use the whole document, not just pasts of it that you agree with.

Like Dennis stated, he doesn't use the bible as a reason to not agree with gay marriage. Unlike so many in politics that are using the bible to back their dislike of gay marriage. If they are going to do that, then they must follow the whole bible.
Mostly my objections are directed at the radical, thick headed and intolerant gay activists. I can't stand those people.
I agree 100%. I know a good number of gay people, and sadly like every group there are radicals or idiots in that group. But I don't judge a whole group by a few.
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05-07-2015 10:32 PM  6 years ago
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But I don't judge a whole group by a few.
I can if I want to.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.
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05-07-2015 10:35 PM  6 years ago
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You Cry CONSTITUTION but the Constitution was based on PURE Biblical Principal's : The Men in Black

EXCLUSIVE to AMERICA which is NOT in the BIBLE ! NO Mention

Make it Simple : AMERICA is OWNED by JESUS : HE DO WHAT HE WANT's

Long with the Rest of the Floating BLUE ORB in SPACE

MAN's LAW Never Supersedes GOD's LAW

You can Wear out all the Hammers you want on the Anvil

Don't drop it on your foot it Hurt's !

Now go get another box of hammer's
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05-07-2015 10:36 PM  6 years ago
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Like Dennis stated, he doesn't use the bible as a reason to not agree with gay marriage. Unlike so many in politics that are using the bible to back their dislike of gay marriage. If they are going to do that, then they must follow the whole bible.
Really ????

They must ?? ?

Is that a rule you just made up, or is it written somewhere?

Is it a law somewhere?

Show us where it says we must comply in order to have an opinion.

Have you ever heard of the first amendment? Or must you be reeducated?
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05-08-2015 02:31 AM  6 years ago
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Exactly. My issue is with people that use the bible to back their dislike of something the ignore the rest of the bible.

Just like the constitution, so many are so quick to use it to back what they feel is right, but then ignore that fact that it is for everyone. So many are saying that Muslims should not be able to practice their religion, yet they ignore the fact that the 1st Amendment gives them that right.

That is my point. If you are going to use a document to back your belief, then you must use the whole document, not just pasts of it that you agree with
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Sorry ChrisC1, people's use or non use of all or part of the Bible has NOTHING to do with Muhammad cartoons...NOTHING.

This is simply the conflict between western countries' free speech and muslims' reactions.

Being offended does not warrant causing physical harm.
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05-08-2015 03:02 AM  6 years ago
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The problem I see is the generalization about Muslims.
I don't see that as the problem.

I see killing people as the problem.

People generalize me all the time. I am part of the "white privilege group" that the Nation of Islam refers to as the "devil".

We are all victims of some kind of wrong.
Most of them are tired of radicals too -not much they can do though.
They should be tired. As far as not being much they can do, I agree.

Why can't they do much?...because they are concerned for their own safety.

When I saw Anwar Sadat embrace Menachem Begin on TV, I told my wife he is a dead man. An Arab at that time could not befriend a Jew.

When Golda Meir was in her early struggles, she was helped secretly by Arabs. The help had to be secret...for safety reasons.
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