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05-06-2015 05:48 PM  6 years ago
Aaron29

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I wouldn't say it's over if found to be a lawful arrest.

The well being of the suspect is still the officer's responsibility. There are charges that could be brought even if the arrest is lawful.

But not the charges the DA went for. Second degree murder. Seriously? Negligent homicide would have had a shot, but the DA hubris will backfire.
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05-06-2015 05:54 PM  6 years ago
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IF that knife was in fact illegal, then this case is over.. on the spot.
IT might be.

A request has been made to introduce it as evidence, so it can be examined.
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05-06-2015 06:49 PM  6 years ago
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im glad they found facts that made this look like justice is finally being
served

and if over turned there could be rioting in more cities then just Baltimore that would be burned to the ground i hope we as people dont
want to see any more innocent people being hurt a losing property

i hope it ends here.

i could imagine a white community where the adults and kids were unemployed

then harassed and beaten by Chinese police and black people owned an ran all of the businesses.

if the Chinese cops pissed these white people off they would burn down all of the black businesses in there community i dont know why this is but i guess it is what it is.

id like to move out of long beach the rent is to expensive id love
to move to a city that has low rent but what scares me is where there is low rent their is a lot of crime.

the problem is to many black people scatter to one city that offers low rent and then when they cant find work they start doing criminal things
like sell drugs and let there kids run the streets

the black population is 14% yet for 2014 12% of the population is out of work do to immigration a big part

Unemployment rate
12.1
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t02.htm

California does not suffer the problems like Baltimore and Ferguson
rents to expensive all of the problems cali had with having low rent
these people are spreading out to other city's they take them over and then destroy these cities when they cant get fed.

these people need jobs and education but our government has gave all of them to people from other countries to many Americans and vets are homeless

our presidents are worthless each one is a comedian or and actor
if they do one thing right they always do something wrong.

im bored please excuse my rant but some of us should try looking at both sides of the fence.
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05-06-2015 07:07 PM  6 years ago
wc_wickedclown (RIP)

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I bet the knife "somehow" disappears.
really does this knife look illegal game over
http://reason.com/blog/2015/05/06/c...%26+Run+Blog%29
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05-06-2015 07:28 PM  6 years ago
Dennis (RIP)

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IF that knife was in fact illegal, then this case is over.. on the spot.
IT might be.
A request has been made to introduce it as evidence, so it can be examined.
The preliminary hearing is May 27th.

That is a hearing before a judge to determine if the prosecutor has enough evidence to support the charges and set a court date. If not the charges are either reduced or dismissed entirely and the defendants released.

We'll have to see what happens.
Liberty once lost, is lost forever.
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05-06-2015 08:25 PM  6 years ago
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But Obama SAID :
The Nation's unemployment is 5.5%
the black population is 14% yet for 2014 12% of the population is out of work do to immigration a big part

Unemployment rate
12.1
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t02.htm
So why is Not : Obama campaigning for Hillery ?? Out Singing ??

Why did Bill Campaign for OBAMA ?? Now OBAMA will Not campaign for Hillery ??

Bill's Wife was supposed to be PRESIDENT

What's a Knife got to do with a seat BElt or a Bolt sticking out in a Padded Wagon-

WHy is the Young man who has been in the ground for ??? Day's being Dragging on his feet Prior to being Loaded ??

Where di Al Sharpton go ?? or Eric Holder and Why has NOT OBAMA said a word ?

Administration of Hope / Promise /Change / Complete Transparency :
To Fundamentally Change America

Either the Officer has X- Ray vision or Freddy was waving it around in public :
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05-06-2015 08:59 PM  6 years ago
wc_wickedclown (RIP)

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The Nation's unemployment is 5.5%
obamas a liar

and he is speaking about the nation not 1 population of ppl
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05-06-2015 09:06 PM  6 years ago
wc_wickedclown (RIP)

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The preliminary hearing is May 27th.
That is a hearing before a judge to determine if the prosecutor has enough evidence to support the charges and set a court date.
the picture of that knife its undeniably that is not an illegal weapon
and that is what the victim was wrongfully arrested for.

dismissed entirely ? would mean riots all over the country there would be many angry Americans all over the country and not just blacks would be pissed whites as well.
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05-06-2015 09:19 PM  6 years ago
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really does this knife look illegal
Looks have nothing to do with it, it is the operation of the knife that makes it illegal as stated in the story.
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05-06-2015 09:42 PM  6 years ago
wc_wickedclown (RIP)

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Looks have nothing to do with it, it is the operation of the knife that makes it illegal as stated in the story.
switch blades are illegal to own in Baltimore.

and you are correct about the operation the cops took the knife out of the suspects pocket it was not in operation
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05-06-2015 09:45 PM  6 years ago
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IT'S HOW IT'S OPERATED IS THE POINT. If it's got a spring assisted blade operated with some kind of button or tab, it's illegal.
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05-06-2015 09:53 PM  6 years ago
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No wc he didn't mean Freddie was wielding the knife by "operation"

By operation it means how the knife works. There's a few types of knives out there. There are fixed knives, unfolding no spring knives, unfolding spring assisted knives, and fully switch blade knives. The fixed knife is just that. A knife. The folding no spring is a simple folding knife. The spring assisted you have to open it part way by thumb and then the spring flings it all the way open. A true switch blade knife you just hit a button and it flies open.

Obviously I listed those in order of how dangerous they can be and how controlled they are, legally.

But another thing that may limit a knife being legal is blade length. You can sometimes getaway with a long knife but if it's a folding knife the length is more limited.

So the big discussion is what type of knife was it? And was it legal. Different states and municipalities have different laws.

I seriously doubt he had it in hand during the arrest but if he had it on his person it could be illegal depending on the knife type, length, and whether he had a concealed weapon license, which is doubtful he qualified for if that rap sheet is valid.
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05-06-2015 10:09 PM  6 years ago
wc_wickedclown (RIP)

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Confirmed – Freddie Gray’s Knife WAS Illegal
his knife was spring assisted

oh chit looks like trouble
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05-06-2015 10:31 PM  6 years ago
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Doesn't mean anything goes after an arrest. But yes it does shed light on what's going on here. People WANT these cops to be wrong because they want blood. When people are disappointed that it turns out to be a legal arrest you know there isn't any search for truth. Just blood.
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05-07-2015 01:31 AM  6 years ago
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There are quite a few new designs. They look nothing like the old switchblades we saw in the movies.
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05-07-2015 01:47 AM  6 years ago
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Exactly. The laws probably need rewriting

If we're confused, And the cops are confused, And the DA is confused, you can bet Freddy had no idea.

Despite having family in California I've never taken any of my firearms there. I'm not going down for some ancient or obscure or confusing laws dreamt up by second amendment hating liberals.

Laws need to be clear. Especially ones like carrying arms. Because in a way, they are all b.s. It's odd you can go to jail exercising the bill of rights in the blue states. Were it my choice all carry laws would go away except for felons. The constitution seems to imply all states ought to be shall issue. But even if they were, why is the second amendment the only one I need a permit to exercise?
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05-07-2015 02:15 AM  6 years ago
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I brought one of my guns to Cali for a couple camping trips. I was pretty sure i was in the clear. It had under 10 round mag... My girl told me it is still not legal... too small.

I told her Hey, its not the size of the gun its the magic in i.... OK nevermind.
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05-07-2015 04:08 AM  6 years ago
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this knife look illegal
Do you know what illegal knives "look" like...according to the state laws of Maryland? It matters not what it looks like, but instead it's in the "specs".

And, how can your link purport to show what knife he actually had in his possession...when that info hasn't been released...and the cop's lawyers are in a legal battle to have this released.

So that website's info amounts to malarkey at this stage.

From what I've heard, they will have to justify an arrest for another valid reason, and not that he was later found to have the knife.

And now the mayor has insisted upon a federal investigation....to take the heat off of her....because of her stupid "room to riot" stand-down of the authorities during the ensuing riots.

Other than toxicology reports(pot and heroin), they haven't released info on the exact cause of death(by the coroner...and perhaps independent forensic examinations).

Have to wait for the entire picture to be painted...don't want to judge a book by its cover...
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05-07-2015 12:10 PM  6 years ago
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I had to laugh when I saw she said she wanted a federal investigation into HER police department that she's been in control over for a while now and did nothing about. No wonder the city is such a dump.
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05-07-2015 01:05 PM  6 years ago
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The city of Baltimore is a failure because its been under democrat control since 1967.

That's decades upon decades of democrat rot to sink in to destroy the city.

It's not going to change unless the voters change.
Liberty once lost, is lost forever.
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