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03-29-2015 04:23 PM  3 years agoPost 1
waheed1998

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Well i took the training wheel off and stop asking a buddy of my to build my heli, after i learned i can put my heli together myself after a year of flying it a two crashes later and him putting in more hours at work.The winter comes around and i buy a nitro heli a good one from a good guy off here.This heli i haven't flown it yet.Is nitro to much? I just think you have to be born with a nitro learning curve.I read 100 old nitro post since since i was off work the last 3 days with the flu was lost in terminology. Please some write a rc heli dictionary

anthony jackson

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03-29-2015 04:42 PM  3 years agoPost 2
JEEPWORLD2002/2

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Blue Bell, Pa

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Just a different power system. I am no nitro king infact think my tuning needs a lot of work but I'm still trying aftert 8 years I do love the clean ness of ep n the power on demand of ep. Cleaning my 600n in a pain but I can fly till I crash with it as long as my case of fuel n Rx power lasts I do get migraine from the exhaust always have even when riding my 2 stroke quad

Basically the same I love them both

Trex600n,Trex500,MR25,MikadoLoGo5003d/KDE,Goblin 380XNova,CastleCreations,Ys,JR XG8,Tags Mini XBus Dmss//FAA# FA3NYC9TAP

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03-29-2015 05:00 PM  3 years agoPost 3
Jerry K

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This hobby is about pushing yourself out of your comfort zone otherwise you will be on the couch watching what others can do. I could care less if someone can catch a football, I care what I CAN DO!

You have to learn by doing and if you sit on the sidelines all your life you will regret later on in life. I sit back and remember all I have done in the past and do not regret much of it. Some must have a boring life if they sit back and watch others.

Go for it get up off the figurative couch and try something new.

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03-29-2015 05:10 PM  3 years agoPost 4
RotorheadBob

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I learned on a Hirobo Shuttle, a great little nitro helicopter at the time.

A few basics and help from others went a long way.

Jerry K is absolutely correct. Push against your comfort zone. This hobby is filled with challenges no matter how long you've been flying. Overcoming the challenges is very rewarding.

Rob

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03-29-2015 05:13 PM  3 years agoPost 5
Dan Minick

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Columbus, WI

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Anything you want to know post right here. Im a self taught nitro guy, but considered to be very mechanically inclined so it came easy to me. We are here to help

Team Synergy, Team FBL Rotors-------if its not broke...it will be!

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03-29-2015 05:37 PM  3 years agoPost 6
Einzelganger

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Campbell, Texas

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Anything you want to know post right here. Im a self taught nitro guy, but considered to me very mechanically inclined. We are here to help
Same here. There is no question about nitro helis that someone here can't answer for you. Nitros Rock.

Wayne

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RIP Roman

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03-29-2015 06:12 PM  3 years agoPost 7
RM3

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Killeen, Texas - USA

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if you think the learning curve is steep for a nitro.. try a NIB tempermental Century Gasser...

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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03-29-2015 06:34 PM  3 years agoPost 8
ICUR1-2

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Ottawa, Ontario

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If you have a passion for something it becomes less of a burden to learn about it.
I started with 0 knowledge of RC nitro and meeting new people was not my strong point.
It was my passion that helped push me beyond those barriers.
I have a strong desire for Nitro so the learning curve was easier.

As with anything in life if your desire is strong enough you will prevail.

As for the terminology of words don't be afraid to ask what they mean many of us here will help.

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03-29-2015 07:06 PM  3 years agoPost 9
artimus

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Buckley WA

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One thing to learn about with nitro is something called a Hot Start. That is where the throttle is not in the low position when you hit the starter....full throttle hot start will wake you up. Always hold the head when starting a nitro heli....something not done with electric helis.

Fly Hard......Team Viagra

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03-29-2015 07:44 PM  3 years agoPost 10
dkshema

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Cedar Rapids, IA

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My first-ever RC heli. A Kavan Jet Ranger. I began to build and assemble it. Then started taking a lonnnnnnnnnnnng look at that big, nice, pristine fiberglass fuselage. The time, effort, and expense to really make a nice heli out of it.

Then having the common sense to realize I'd reduce it to bits and pieces should I ever finish and attempt to fly it. Sold it, although it broke my heart at the time, and I'm sure it found a much better home and had a much better life than I'd been able to give it.

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03-29-2015 07:51 PM  3 years agoPost 11
Martin Heli-F

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+5 Artimus......Always hold the head when starting a nitro..
As for terminology, I am at the complete opposite side to you.
All this electric terminology, regulators, lipos,3s 6s etc etc is doing my head in...
Back on track.. All you have to do is set up as normal, throttle/pitch curve, gyro, tail rotor direction, throttle stop, idle up etc etc.
Only main difference form my point of view is nitro is a lot easier to set up!
Make sure the tank has a weight (clunk), an in line filter on the fuel lines, a filter from the pump too. The other major differences are setting the engine. With smaller 30 and 60 size engines it's always a good idea to start the main needle about two turns out anti clockwise. keep smoke for a rich engine until you are aware that it bogs down and lean it out in tiny increments )clockwise).
Terminology is the same!! Except..
Glow plug.. Think of a spark plug for a car. ignites the fuel.
Glow plug battery or 2 volt battery.
Starter, which is a larger motor to crank the engine. Usually a 12 volt motor.
Basically you just need a different flight box! Box to carry it all, 12v starter, glow plug battery, fuel pump, fuel and a battery checker.
I have probably left out lots of things but that is a basic set.
Ooh, and dont forget a flight jacket!! I love the smell of nitro but not on all my clothes!! Good luck..

Lover of all things RC. Divorced as the "wifes" batteries never drained!!!

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03-29-2015 09:19 PM  3 years agoPost 12
dkshema

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Cedar Rapids, IA

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The major pain with nitro powered helis is that tuning the two or three needles to get a motor that runs well requires skill and knowledge. There IS a learning curve associated with nitro motors, and if you are unsure of how to adjust the needles, that learning curve can become expensive and frustrating.

It is quite easy to tune the needles such that the motor is too "lean", and rapidly toast your piston, ring, and cylinder.

I gained much of my tuning experience in my early plank flying days.

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03-29-2015 09:26 PM  3 years agoPost 13
McKrackin

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Lucasville,Ohio

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One thing to learn about with nitro is something called a Hot Start. That is where the throttle is not in the low position when you hit the starter....full throttle hot start will wake you up. Always hold the head when starting a nitro heli....something not done with electric helis
Everybody does it once.lol...
The scare and the burnt clutch smell will stick with you for a long time

I have had one electric heli spool up to 100% and that was way worse than nitro...no clutch.lol...
Very unlikely to happen with a decent ESC though.

I literally never use the word literally right.

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03-30-2015 06:30 AM  3 years agoPost 14
Martin Heli-F

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London, UK

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Agreed, adjusting the engine and fine tuning the engine can be a pain. But just like electric heli batteries, nitros also suffer in different weather conditions. Adjustment is normally done on the field when the engine is running. Sounds obvious but you can hear the engine and see smoke. Loading the blades usually tells you whether to lean out a little or adjust the pitch / throttle curves as I assume you do with electric helis.

On my EP's I have Futaba MC114H ESC's. The battery was losing its charge and I decided to bring it in for a soft landing. Then the ESC cut power to the motor so I autoed, flared whacked the +positive pitch when the motor started again at high speed. flared at 2 foot off the ground the heli spun tail straight into the ground. Now I don't trust these ESC's so throttle hold for me is now mandatory..

Lover of all things RC. Divorced as the "wifes" batteries never drained!!!

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03-30-2015 02:07 PM  3 years agoPost 15
rudyy

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E. Amherst, NY

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I started from absolutely knowing nothing on nitro to the point where I am able to rebuild an engine and fine tune it. I just recently converted a YS56SR to YS60SR and I have so much satisfaction in the conversion process. It is just a hobby and if you have the passionate, you can do it.

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03-30-2015 07:21 PM  3 years agoPost 16
waheed1998

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I just want to thank all for such inspiring word as i had a defeatist mind for a minute. Time to finish her up.

anthony jackson

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03-30-2015 07:50 PM  3 years agoPost 17
MartyH

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USA

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Dive in. You will find it's sort of like being afraid to repair your crashes before. Bite it off in little pieces and ask questions when you get stuck. Tuning you might want to get a little help with just starting out to save on frustration and a scuffed piston.

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03-30-2015 10:26 PM  3 years agoPost 18
wc_wickedclown (RIP)

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long beach calif

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mt first copter was a 450 so i saw a raptor 30 on ebay and i bought it

when it came in the mail i was floored the canopy alone was the size of a gallon milk jug i said to my self what have i done

i feel in love fixed her up and learned how to fly

i wanted to return it but she was just to pretty and i got her for cheap

Insha Allah made in america

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03-30-2015 11:58 PM  3 years agoPost 19
BobOD

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New York- USA

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For what it's worth, it's fairly easy to tell if someone is going to be successful with Nitro.

If, while walking back after a flight, a guy wipes his finger down the boom, looks at it, sniffs it and then wipes it on his shirt, he's going to do well.

If the guy just carries it back and sets it down, then goes around with his hands out, looking for a tissue...probably going to be trouble.

Just a little observation I've made.

Team POP Secret

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03-31-2015 12:22 AM  3 years agoPost 20
waheed1998

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Bobod, always make me smile.This maybe be true

anthony jackson

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