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03-23-2015 10:17 PM  3 years agoPost 1
stokkosf.

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isit possible to start on phoenix 5 and then fly trex 500 pro dfc combo with ar7200bx as first heli ?

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03-23-2015 10:48 PM  3 years agoPost 2
RM3

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yes... as long as you practice alot on the sim FIRST.

some guys I know started on 600s...

keep in mind that the sim is not a perfect representation of what your going to feel when you spool up for real.

your not nervous when flying the SIM... but your pucker factor will be astonomical when you got a real heli in the air just waiting to reduce your bank accounts value.

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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03-23-2015 10:56 PM  3 years agoPost 3
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I did it. Real Flight 2.5. Learned to hover, forward flight, and auto in the sim. Probably a good 3-4 months on the sim. Then bought a Trex 600N and was flying circuits the first time out. Scary as all get out!! But, it worked.

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03-23-2015 10:59 PM  3 years agoPost 4
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I will add that it helps alot if you can get help from someone that knows how to fly a heli (not another novice) too... setup of a heli in the sim is always near perfect... In the real world setup can affect stability and is never perfect out of the box.

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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03-23-2015 11:00 PM  3 years agoPost 5
artimus

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Your gonna become a heli mechanic long before you become a heli pilot....even with a sim....it just how small the pile if broken parts are.

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03-23-2015 11:17 PM  3 years agoPost 6
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Your combo (minus the dfc head and FBL unit) is the combo that I learned to fly on. As has been said, the pucker factor will still be there, but your choice is a pretty good one.

Going to a 600 size would make things a tad easier on flying, but more expensive in the crash situation. I had to teach myself how to fly, as I fly mode 1 and didn't have anyone who could really buddy box with me.

It was possible to get someone to copy my files into a similar mode 2 setup, but basically, I had to learn about building and flying as I went along.

If you are patient, and particular on your build and setup, then your heli should fly well. But, you have to be pretty anal about blade pitches, bearing smoothness, etc to get it that way.

Good luck.

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03-24-2015 12:25 AM  3 years agoPost 7
jtv62161

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I went from a blade coaxical to a 800 size mongoose gasser

Logo 400/400se/550se/Align 550/700DFC

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03-24-2015 01:19 AM  3 years agoPost 8
McKrackin

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Just do it right.
My cousin could fly a heli for 10-20 minutes on a sim without crashing when she was 3 or 4 years old.
She couldn't fly though. She knew how to keep it from hitting the ground...which involved flying behind herself or where ever it went as long as she made it go up.

When you learn on the sim...learn to hover in one spot.
It's tempting to take off flying too soon. I did on my first sim. Doing flips and rolls and stuff but not even being able to do a tail in hover.

Learn right. Hover in one spot. When you can do it...pick an indoor flying location to practice hovering. The walls keep you honest.

I literally never use the word literally right.

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03-24-2015 03:20 PM  3 years agoPost 9
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A friend of mine bough a heli and a sim just before being deployed to Iraq. While he was there, he practiced with the sim every chance he got. When he returned, we finished assembling the heli, and within 3 weekends he had lost the training gear and was flying circuits. Loaded up and went to a funfly on the 4th weekend.

The type of helicopter is irrelevant in my book, as long as you have a "coach".

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03-24-2015 03:54 PM  3 years agoPost 10
ssmith512

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When you learn on the sim...learn to hover in one spot.
Good advice right there. Practice is only worthwhile if you practice "correctly".

Steve

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03-25-2015 04:45 PM  3 years agoPost 11
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I also like to add the idea of Buddy Boxing.

I run a RC Heli Flight School and I would:
- Start them off on the SIM
- Make sure they know all their maneuvers up to circuits
- Review and go through all safety proto-calls / rules & guidelines
- Buddy Box on my Logo 550 on 6S with 600 canopy & boom
- I spool up 25' away (lessens intimidation factor)
- Bring it 40' out and 60' high
- Let them take over
- I would land first few times until I feel they are ready

This method would have a 65% success rate b/c 35% would not go with my idea. some don't believe in the SIM (prove to be very expensive and frustrating) and others insist on flying their heli's. Not only is it they want to fly 450's (hard to see at 20' - 30' but nothing is setup correctly. It's best to have someone with experience build and you can watch. Last thing is to be a wrencher at this point .. You can build once you are proficient with flying. Less on your plate and reduce your chance of mechanical failures.

I personally SIM for 5-6 months on a Hobbypartz SIM ($29.99). Didn't have a Heli so I couldn't fly it even if I wanted it. I picked up a Trex 500 Flybar clone (didn't know better) and learned all my upright & inverted circuits with it. Very stable, easy to see and work with.

You have a very good starting platform. I fly exclusively Logo 600's although I have bigger 700 / 750 and 770 machines at my disposal. But I still keep my long time Trex 500 and have picked up a Trex 500 Nitro for nostalgic & sentimental values. Some things will never get old.

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03-25-2015 06:13 PM  3 years agoPost 12
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-1 on buddy box... learning to hover and first forward flights should ALL be on the simulator.

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03-25-2015 06:43 PM  3 years agoPost 13
Heli Fanatix

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Heli_Splatter ...
- Start them off on the SIM
- Make sure they know all their maneuvers up to circuits
- Review and go through all safety proto-calls / rules & guidelines
Buddy Boxing is after they are comfortable with circuits. This will include all the basics (as you have mentioned and more)

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03-25-2015 08:29 PM  3 years agoPost 14
ICUR1-2

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learning on a sim is much easier than learning with a 30 size nitro

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03-29-2015 04:00 AM  3 years agoPost 15
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Actually .. Everything is not so difficult if you know what you are doing and break it down. Flying RC Heli involves:

- Eye to hand coordination
- An understanding of physics
- To be mechanically incline & be computer literate
- Good observance and practice of safety rules

Understanding these key points has sky rocketed my flying abilities.

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03-29-2015 04:22 AM  3 years agoPost 16
wc_wickedclown (RIP)

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phoenix 5 is total garbage and is over priced

neXt 76 bucks and rocks
http://www.cgm-online.com/rc-heli-s.../_download.html

Watch at YouTube

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03-29-2015 09:35 PM  3 years agoPost 17
dkshema

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AT one point in time, I was not a believer in the suitability of flight simulators. I'd seen a LOT of airplane flyers who "learned" on a sim, fly too many airplanes way too far out, and way too low. Many crashes and long walks ensued. This is a by-product of needing to see a horizontal reference (the ground) while learning to fly.

Then, as luck would have it, I was out flying one afternoon, having just joined a new club. The club president arrived, and as he had talked a lot about helicopters, I assumed he flew them. I had a Kyosho Nexus at the time, fired it up, and then turned to him to ask "would you like to fly it?"

He was quite eager, I handed him the transmitter. He spooled up, lifted off to a knee-high hover, then began to fly circuits, some figure 8's, and other basic maneuvers. After about five minutes, he landed, shut down the motor, and handed me the transmitter. THEN he said, "Thanks, I've always wanted to fly a helicopter, this was my first time."

Somewhat shocked, I asked, "If you never flew one, how was it you were able to fly this one?" His answer was simple. He had spent three to four hours daily, flying a heli on a sim, for about six months.

I became a believer in the value of sims that day.

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03-29-2015 10:44 PM  3 years agoPost 18
Heli Fanatix

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Is that you piloting WC?!? ...laying down the artillery?

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03-29-2015 11:05 PM  3 years agoPost 19
wc_wickedclown (RIP)

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helifanatix
Is that you piloting WC?!? ...laying down the artillery?
just my honest opinion

i use to love phoenix rc used it for years

so i updated it last week someone said it was much better than neXt

so i loaded it up and gave phoenix rc a try it was horrible

the trex 700 looked like a trex 500 and the physics reminded me of fmf sim

why pay 200 bucks for phoenix rc when neXt is better and only 78 bucks?

200 bucks he would be better with accu rc if he wanted to waste his cash

160 bucks its over priced as well.

and yes i am that pilot brother i suck but im trying

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03-29-2015 11:11 PM  3 years agoPost 20
Heli Fanatix

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Looks good to me ...... A little less than three years ago I watched your YouTube videos when I was re-engaging this Hobby.

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