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03-17-2015 06:19 PM  3 years agoPost 41
Freeskiken

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Looks to me to be two batteries one on each side attached with straps. No tray. May be a balance issue.

Looks like a great Heli !!!

What kind of power system, motor, ESC ?

YGE 160 HV ?

4525 520 Ultimate Motor ?

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03-17-2015 07:13 PM  3 years agoPost 42
snafu9241

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New 700
Looks to be yge 160 4525-520 just like xxtreme. I hope that it at least weighs 11.5. I think you can get it too light especially for 715,s.

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03-18-2015 06:11 PM  3 years agoPost 43
bitsnpieces

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Servo mounts
I still have to wonder about servo mounting. I would like to see metal inserts for the servo mounting screws to go into. Other than that, it looks like a nicely designed hell.

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03-18-2015 08:05 PM  3 years agoPost 44
JEEPWORLD2002/2

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the self tapers work , but inserts would be nice. just make sure the opening is big enough for my jr heat sink case servos

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03-31-2015 03:39 AM  3 years agoPost 45
buster1

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Too bad their not releasing for the summer - would have enjoyed building this for the season.

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03-31-2015 05:54 AM  3 years agoPost 46
EEngineer

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Like that that "front end" is flat to mount an ESC.

One cannot mount a KOS with Velcro....have to use the KOS mounting bolts.

Seems some "drilling" will be required....

Should be lighter in weight....my CF 700XX is ~12 lbs.

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04-01-2015 03:33 AM  3 years agoPost 47
sseppala

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New 700
There is a lot to like about this new design. Two piece frame, yes! 700 Xxtreme look, yes! 700 Xxtreme tail drive, yes! Light disc loading, yes! 12s will work, yes! Plastic frame, yes! Only thing it is missing is battery changes without removing canopy, guess I can live with that knowing the flight times will be great. Fall delivery, oh well, nice to have something to look forward to at the end of a short NH summer.
Very nice Mikado.

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04-22-2015 06:11 PM  3 years agoPost 48
Dr. Fibinotchi

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hmmm
Two thumbs up. They will do it right.

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04-22-2015 09:05 PM  3 years agoPost 49
rexxigpilot

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Good things do come to those who wait! Oh well, I couldn't wait and got the CF 700 Xxtreme. No worries, I'll get the plastic model we all wanted too.

One thing I noticed from the pictures posted, there are no predrilled holes for mounting servos. This is a good thing IMO since different brands of servos use slightly different hole spacing. It wasn't too big an issue on the previous plastic Logos, but it was a PITA with the metal Xxtreme. Good thinking Mikado.

Time to start saving the pennies, or dollars in this case.

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10-25-2015 12:33 PM  3 years agoPost 50
readytofly

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hey guys, any news about the new logo 700? i was told this pictures are from a prototype only and the frame design has already changed.

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11-01-2015 10:26 PM  3 years agoPost 51
raildog

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logo 700
Hearing that the delay was due to revamped frames,they are supposed to except slide in tray instead of side bye side lipo.I think first of the year will see something .

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11-02-2015 03:20 AM  3 years agoPost 52
JEEPWORLD2002/2

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One thing I always liked about the logo was the way the frame protected the lipos. If they change to the batt slide tray will they keep the two piece sliding frame halves ?? Humm I wonder what's its gonna look like Any pics of revamped frame ??

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11-02-2015 04:55 PM  3 years agoPost 53
rexxigpilot

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Hearing that the delay was due to revamped frames,they are supposed to except slide in tray instead of side bye side lipo.I think first of the year will see something .
I sure hope this is incorrect. The side by side battery layout is superior for centralizing mass, which provides a low moment of inertia in all 3 axes. Inline batteries only produce a low MOI in the roll axis. Yaw and pitch axes suffer tremendously with an inline layout.

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11-12-2015 06:53 AM  3 years agoPost 54
Bugcatcher

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I might be the only one that seems a little disappointed with the new plastic 700. Won't be rushing out to add it to my 700 Xxtreme.

Some flaws in Mikado's original plastic 600's frame have now creep back in like rigid servo placement that was always hard to get the geometry right. I like the small adapter idea depending on servo type that was on the 700 Xxtreme.

Not keen on the new head simply because it now looks like every other head out there on the market. The Xxtreme head looked different and built for business and stood out. The only thing I didn't like was it was made out of a softer (probably cheaper) metal alloy than it should have and still damaged easier than expected. Definitely not made from the usual 6061 alloy.

Another 600 plastic frame limitation was mounting locations for electronics. The rounded front area where most installed their ESC on the 600 was just silly. It is better on this heli but still looks like mounting options may still be limited apart from what it is designed around like the YGE.

Mind you this is all based on the photo's and still keen the look at it more once it gets released but just my first observations.

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11-12-2015 05:53 PM  3 years agoPost 55
readytofly

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to me the only real downside of the 600 frames is the hard work to replace it when it cracks in a crash. it is a tough job to separate the halves and remove the servos. it seems mikado has addressed this problem well with two separated sections on the new 700 plastic frame. i hope they do the same on the 600's.

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11-13-2015 03:57 AM  3 years agoPost 56
Bugcatcher

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You only have to look at the silly things they have done like not make the plate at bottom rear of the frames not flat and square so you could mount the FBL sensor there if you wished. Have a few people come to me wondering why the heli flys weird only to realize the sensor is mounted out of square.

Looking at the photo, they have the same plate and though could be a trick of the photo, but the plate now looks even more out of square, atleast it will be more obvious.

We are lucky now that we need less electronics on our heli but back when regulators, external govs etc where needed. Finding a solid mounting location was an art form in itself. Why they made the main location for mounting the ESC curved is still a mystery. I realize it was for strength in the frame but should have been designed a lot better. There are very few logo's out there that have not been drilled of modified to make things fit.

I love the Logo's and one of the best flying heli's out there but sometime you can scratch your head wondering why did they do that. The other big difference with plastic vs carbon frames are, if you missed something in designing a carbon frame, you can usually fix it on the next batch without affecting other components. Plastic frames however involve a larger upfront outlay setting up moulds etc. Once they go in production, that is it as and any change requires alot more cost which is why the original Logo frame has not really changed and only bolt on extra's added after.

What I am basically saying is they need to get this right before going in production because once done, they/owners will be stuck with it.

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11-13-2015 11:06 AM  3 years agoPost 57
Ronald Thomas

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You only have to look at the silly things they have done like not make the plate at bottom rear of the frames not flat and square so you could mount the FBL sensor there if you wished. Have a few people come to me wondering why the heli flys weird only to realize the sensor is mounted out of square.
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What are you talking about? The bottom at the rear is the perfect place for the VBAR sensor, actually it is the designated spot....

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11-15-2015 04:06 AM  3 years agoPost 58
Futura SE

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What are you talking about? The bottom at the rear is the perfect place for the VBAR sensor, actually it is the designated spot....
Out of square? I don't know what heli you are looking at but it isn't a Logo. That is the designed sensor spot and is perfectly level.

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01-04-2016 05:50 AM  35 months agoPost 59
OICU812

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@Bugcatcher, I have been flying Mikado helis for a loooong time, 9+ years now. I want to re enforce both of what Ron and Norman have said above so to not confuse others.

First off the gyro plate in rear bottom (by servo).. This section is exactly 90 degrees to the main shaft, the wall "front" also is 90 degrees, therefore it is easy and as well recommended for the external sensor placement on this section. I have never had in any Logo (fly strange). If you use a simple block or toll to ensure it is square to the wall section you will 100% be 90 to main shaft and it will fly true.

Top section,,, this as well is 90 degrees to the main shaft, as far as left right orientation the bottom edges are square and should be simple enough to make your sensor, vbar, neo etc exatly parallel for perfect position.

In regards to the placement section of the esc, yes it is curved. While mounting could be made better by this flat I have never encountered room issues nor any kind of function issues having multiple brands and sizes of escs on that section.

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...

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03-11-2016 02:28 PM  33 months agoPost 60
JEEPWORLD2002/2

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700
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