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03-12-2015 12:22 AM  3 years agoPost 1
Heli_Splatter

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Check out this link... They are not going to allow Lipo Shipments on passenger jets.
http://www.flyingmag.com/news/call-...-grows-stronger

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03-12-2015 01:50 AM  3 years agoPost 2
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LiPos can come from overseas on boats and ship domestically by truck.

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03-12-2015 01:51 AM  3 years agoPost 3
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According to the article, the proposed ban would only apply to "bulk" shipments.

  

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03-12-2015 11:59 AM  3 years agoPost 4
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What is a "Bulk" shipment. That can mean different things to different people. One would have to assume that they are currently shipping by cheapest method possible. Change can only increase the cost. Quite frankly, I think this should have been done a long time ago. Just wait until a lipo goes off in the cabin.

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03-12-2015 12:17 PM  3 years agoPost 5
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This is old news that may be rehashed from time-time. After a cargo aircraft went down due to a lipo fire about 5 years ago the safety concerns were brought up then. So this is not the first time we have heard about the safety issue of carrying any lipos aboard flying machines. I have heard the worst thing you want to smell aboard an craft in the air is SMOKE. There have been Federal regs on this for quite some time.

I really do not think lipo battery shipments (in large quanties) fly aboard passenger flight. AND if they do I don't want them on the plane I am flying on. So what I am saying I doubt this will effect the price of lipos on the retail market.

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03-12-2015 02:27 PM  3 years agoPost 6
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What is a "Bulk" shipment.
As per article:

"bulk lithium battery shipments, which can at times include up to tens of thousands of batteries in one container."

  

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03-12-2015 04:08 PM  3 years agoPost 7
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The article mentions the results of RECENT tests. I assume that says they consider it an ongoing issue.

Ace... yeah I read that sentence. If there are thousands of Lipo batteries on the plane, I don't want to be on that plane. It says that the fire suppression system is unable to extinguish such a fire. I read this to be a newer attack on shipping the batteries from Pilots and aircraft manufacturers. Of course, the batteries can be shipped by cargo ship. I think the key thing is to provide separation between quantities so they don't all go up.

If Lipos are banned from cargo planes, then I am sure the cost of shipping will go up.

Maybe they need to consider special containers for shipping... just a thought.

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03-12-2015 04:10 PM  3 years agoPost 8
kingmeow

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Not in the cargo hold of a passenger jet. But what about a cargo jet, say, a FedEx of UPS freight only plane? I know that humans are flying the plane in either case.

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03-12-2015 05:15 PM  3 years agoPost 9
Ace Dude

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If Lipos are banned from cargo planes, then I am sure the cost of shipping will go up.
I'm not sure how many of the Lipos we use are shipped in bulk via air shipping as that's more expensive than ground/boat.

I've been using Revolectrix LiPos and their packs are made to order and shipped directly from Singapore using FedEx. I've placed several orders and have received each on in one week. Since these are individual orders I wouldn't expect them to be impacted by this potential "bulk" ban.

  

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03-12-2015 05:31 PM  3 years agoPost 10
spinner55

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I'm sure they can come up with a way to safely transport on a cargo plane. But the cost of whatever they have to do will be ultimately paid by the consumer.

"Just because nobody complains doesn't mean all parachutes are perfect."

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03-12-2015 11:55 PM  3 years agoPost 11
jharkin

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Shipping surface on a cargo ship is cheaper than air anyway.. And most of our lipos come over that way on a container ship already. As a matter of fact, something like 90% of all cargo movement worldwide happens by sea.

No reason this should raise your cost unless you are ordering direct from an Asia warehouse.
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03-13-2015 11:52 PM  3 years agoPost 12
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I don't know that we know how the bulk of the batteries are imported. One thing is; it is currently the cheapest method. Talking to ret. head of a maritime union... if the batteries puff at +120degrees, they would have to send in refer container. That does not mean frozen, just temp controlled. That raises the cost significantly. When we buy the ones and twos, they are generally coming air freight. I have had several of my batteries puff when left in the car on a hot day.

All it really says, if they have to change, it will be more expensive.

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03-14-2015 01:04 PM  3 years agoPost 13
jharkin

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If you are buying batteries from any US warehouse supplier like helidirect amain horizon etc they are almost certainly getting their shipments by boat. Its cost prohibitive for them to move thousands of packs by air at the prices we pay.

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03-15-2015 01:59 AM  3 years agoPost 14
Noobyflyer

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With threads like this, if they weren't go to, they have a reason now.

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03-15-2015 03:03 PM  3 years agoPost 15
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If you are buying batteries from any US warehouse supplier like helidirect amain horizon etc they are almost certainly getting their shipments by boat. Its cost prohibitive for them to move thousands of packs by air at the prices we pay.
Correct. The batteries people order are already in the states sitting on a shelf anyway. They were shipped in a while before. It's not like they're being custom ordered every time someone orders a Pulse or Gens Ace from US distributors. They order batteries ahead of time so we don't have to wait for overseas shipping.

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03-15-2015 03:52 PM  3 years agoPost 16
Andy from Sandy

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I would expect anything sent on the slow boat to actually cost less in shipping than air freight does.

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03-15-2015 10:12 PM  3 years agoPost 17
HeimD

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I would expect anything sent on the slow boat to actually cost less in shipping than air freight does.
It does cost less. Surface compared to air always does when comparing equivalent shipping methods (refrigerated, time frame, etc).

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