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01-23-2015 11:57 AM  3 years agoPost 61
Retired2011

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I guess I must be flying enough then!

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01-24-2015 01:08 AM  3 years agoPost 62
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You're in a league of your own...

J/K

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01-24-2015 01:10 PM  3 years agoPost 63
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I'm motivated lately to improve my skills so I pulled out the sim to try a few things. HATED IT. Cannot use it. At this point in my flying sims just can't recreate a useful simulation of an actual heli. My point? You MUST fly a real heli where you have something real at stake to instill disciplin.
That's where micros come in. My mcpx bl is one of the best training aid ever but it's limited by its size. So now I use the 180cfx which flys big. The 180 is real and I hate crashing it so it forces discipline. Once you develop skill with it you can fly your showboat big machines with confidence.

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01-24-2015 01:23 PM  3 years agoPost 64
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Why is crashing such a "badge of honor"?
I haven't figured that one out either.

Some of our local guys crash a lot and they think it's funny. They say "if your not crashing your not flying hard enough".

I don't crash very often and I do everything possible mechanically to insure I don't have failures in flight plus I'm fairly conservative with my flying style. (Most of the time)

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01-24-2015 01:52 PM  3 years agoPost 65
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Some of our local guys crash a lot and they think it's funny. They say "if your not crashing your not flying hard enough".
ohh, it's easy enough to crash alright, just flip into st1, pop collective and down collective in quick succession, bling , with no expo, a hundred percent pos/neg pitch, and stand back to watch the parts fly. Even I just laughed at the thought being reminded that was lesson two of cp flying,how not to land, hehe.

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01-24-2015 02:45 PM  3 years agoPost 66
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ohh, it's easy enough to crash alright, just flip into st1, pop collective and down collective in quick succession, bling , with no expo, a hundred percent pos/neg pitch, and stand back to watch the parts fly. Even I just laughed at the thought being reminded that was lesson two of cp flying,how not to land, hehe.
Bahahaha!!

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01-24-2015 03:27 PM  3 years agoPost 67
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I'm struggling with this thread. To me, it begins with a wrong premises and forms a question around it. The classic example of such a question is "Do you still beat your wife?" It begins with the (wrong) assumption you used to beat your wife and goes on to ask "do you still?".

My personal view is, you might as well of asked "Why is beating your wife such a "badge of honor?"" It begins with a wrong assumption and forms a question from it.

I will concede that crashing is an inevitability. "As long as there is gravity, there will be risk." But crashing, to my mnind, is the Wrong Stuff. There is a Right Stuff and there is a Wrong Stuff. Only people with the wrong stuff take their toys home in a shopping bag every weekend.

The people at my field that have been at this a while and take pride in their models seem to rarely crash. FNGs trying to keep up crash every weekend.

As I said, I’m struggling with this thread. I don’t know how to answer the question.

Cheers,

Bill

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01-25-2015 02:04 AM  3 years agoPost 68
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My personal view is, you might as well of asked "Why is beating your wife such a "badge of honor?"" It begins with a wrong assumption and forms a question from it.
Beating your wife????

Come on...

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01-25-2015 03:26 AM  3 years agoPost 69
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"As long as there is gravity, there will be risk."
gravity really has nothing to do with it, it's there, it's all comes from challenging the gravity, don't challenge gravity> and you will not crash,, like climbing a mountain, don't climb it and you wont fall off

(beating your wife) don't blame her, be a better man and leave her before you beat her

Jim
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01-25-2015 03:42 AM  3 years agoPost 70
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Beating your wife????
Come on...
Wait. What. You're kidding right?

Bill

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01-25-2015 04:25 AM  3 years agoPost 71
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"As long as there is gravity, there is risk."
Years ago, while I was in flight training, we had a poster in our bachelor pad that said "Aviation in itself is not inherently dangerous. But to and even greater degree than the sea, it is terribly unforgiving of any carelessness, incapacity or neglect." . Yea - we had a bachelor pad. We decorated with posters. This particular one hung on the wall for some very formative years for me.

The quote I used in my post is form the same person in that poster. It is from an insurance actuary named Richard B. Jones. He wrote a book titled "20% Chance of Rain: Exploring the Concept of Risk." It's a book I enjoyed and there is a chapter dedicated to aviation risk. (Yes, I read books written by insurance actuaries for pleasure. Mock me if you must.) A quote from the chapter on aviation in his book is, "Risk has always been a concept inherently understood by the people involved in aviation; as long as there is gravity, there is risk".

We, in this forum, are modelers. Not aviators. Most here do not entirely understand the risks associated with challenging gravity.

"Well, Nothing bad can happen now."

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01-26-2015 02:21 AM  3 years agoPost 72
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Wait. What. You're kidding right?
You made the comment....

Perhaps I misunderstood

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01-26-2015 05:22 PM  3 years agoPost 73
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I'm not sure why it's a "badge of honor", but I assure you I am a very honorable man.

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01-26-2015 05:34 PM  3 years agoPost 74
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In my book the only acceptable reason to crash is you were trying something new after practicing on the sim.

Sometimes crashing is just part of learning. If your scared to crash learning new things gets hard.

Crashes related to the following are unacceptable in my book and really bug me:

Maintenance issue
Battery unplug in flight
Components failing in flight
Mid air (though it does look cool)
Castle Creations Destroyed My Heli
...there are more but you get my point.

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Xera Motors
ProBar
Minicopter
Thunder Power

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01-26-2015 07:05 PM  3 years agoPost 75
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I crashed yesterday. Engine failed while low and inverted. I got it upright but it was a hard landing.

No badge of honor. I went home with a broken helicopter. Maybe a badge of regret for bad maintenance. The back plate had popped off engine and killed the compression. Instant engine death.

No cheering from the crowd or thatta boys. Just what happened? Questions from crowd. Lol. This topic is silly no one likes to crash.

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01-27-2015 12:03 AM  3 years agoPost 76
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What caused the engine's backplate to pop off?

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01-27-2015 12:55 AM  3 years agoPost 77
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No cheering from the crowd or thatta boys. Just what happened? Questions from crowd. Lol. This topic is silly no one likes to crash.
Like I said...more like a badge of horror!

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01-27-2015 04:00 AM  3 years agoPost 78
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Edited the thread title....

Not everyone's like that...should have been more specific.

No offense

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