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01-22-2015 08:01 PM  3 years agoPost 121
Jeff polisena

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I have a like new never crashed Synergy N9 with custom Arizona canopy,still flys but don't due to the fact of no support 😜

Can't even get a lowball offer .

I stole it ,flew it and gave it back ;)

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01-22-2015 08:07 PM  3 years agoPost 122
gcm2

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I recently made my first sale on RR. I was offered 300 for my asking price of 325. I declined this offer. But in my one experience on RR I was not given any other ridiculous offers!

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01-22-2015 08:21 PM  3 years agoPost 123
Cobra 46

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Hey Jeff. now you can't say you never been lowballed!!

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01-22-2015 08:26 PM  3 years agoPost 124
ICUR1-2

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GoTTa LOL
Foot Ball guys crying about soft balls
And you guys complaining about low balls !! wth

spending time, paying attention

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01-22-2015 09:24 PM  3 years agoPost 125
Jeff polisena

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Ill take 500.00 for the Synergy

I stole it ,flew it and gave it back ;)

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01-23-2015 12:29 PM  3 years agoPost 126
jackp332

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A thought- sometimes if I truly cannot afford someone's asking price and their ad does NOT say firm, I will PM and ask if they mind me making a lower offer before I do so as not to be rude or insult them.

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01-23-2015 01:11 PM  3 years agoPost 127
Ronald Thomas

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If Jeff says it is like new, it will be

Team MikadoUSA 480XXTreme, 550SX, 600SX, 700XXTreme, 800XXTreme!!

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01-23-2015 02:19 PM  3 years agoPost 128
artimus

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The last thing I bought was a DX8 that was offered at $250 shipped....then he lowered the to$225 and got lots of offers and lowerballers...I offered him the asking price and to pay actual shipping cost. ...he said it was $17 to ship.....I then offered to pay his original price of $250......and was glad to do it.....so sometimes it goes the other way too....

Fly Hard......Team Viagra

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01-23-2015 06:36 PM  3 years agoPost 129
rexxigpilot

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For the electronics, 25% the cost of new.
People may balk at this but here me out, Electronic's are life limited. Every piece of electronics that you are selling are ticking time bombs waiting to fail.
Incorrect thinking there. The electronics may last longer than your lifetime. Electronics don't wear out, if properly installed, like other components of a heli. If a piece of electronics is going to fail, it will typically do so quickly. That's known as "infant mortality" in the world of electronics.

Sure, if some electronic device was placed in a high vibration environment by improperly mounting or without proper isolation, then it can be a problem. But in general, the airframe components like bearings wear out quickest, particularly in a high vibration scenario like with a nitro heli.

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01-23-2015 06:38 PM  3 years agoPost 130
Aaron29

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Electronics are 25c on the dollar, but that's because the market is flooded with them and they are all in an unknown state.

Electronics don't last forever. Electronics last 1 to 25 years. Anyone's guess.

Although I read somewhere the 50% rate MTBF for most is 5 years.

Usage is of course going to be a huge determinant. Crashing, heat, cold, and frequency of usage will be a huge factor.

Buying used electronics is like buying used helis. You won't know what it's been through. I think 25% is about all I'd pay, considering the effect of losing an electronic component.

Honestly, how long something lasts is minor. I have some 401's that still work. But I'd be crazy to buy a used 401 when there are used 520's for about the same price.

The pace of technology is what makes something not "last long." It's rendered obsolete.

http://www.ce.org/Blog/Articles/201...-of-Electronics

Try selling a used GY502 in a market full of used GY611's. Might as well give it away.

One the other end. If someone is selling a Silverline VBar, I'd be VERY wary of that. People don't typically get rid of perfectly good stuff.

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01-23-2015 07:16 PM  3 years agoPost 131
rexxigpilot

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And no electronics don't last forever. The 50% rate MTBF for most is 5 years.
Never said forever. Said, "your lifetime." "Electrical rust" (tiny pits in ICs) will eventually cause ICs to fail. Electrolytic capacitors will eventually dry out. But I have many electronic components that are older than me and work just fine.

Can you prove your claim of most electronic have a 50% MTBF within 5 years?

My father worked for electronic testing laboratories for many years before opening up his own company. My cousin is one of the chiefs of engineering for Harris Corporation, specializing in non-civilian (i.e., military and law enforcement) electronic applications. I'm well acquainted with how and when electronics fail.

The failure rate can be accelerated using extreme environmental conditions such as heat, humidity, vibration and mechanical stress/impact. That's how testing companies determine MTBF in a reduced timeframe. I have a power supply rated for 2 million hours (161 years) MTBF. How long do you plan to live?

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01-23-2015 07:25 PM  3 years agoPost 132
Aaron29

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The failure rate can be accelerated using extreme environmental conditions such as heat, humidity, vibration and mechanical stress/impact.
Sounds like a heli.

And no I can't prove the 5 years thing. I read it somewhere.

But again, electronics are typically obsolete before they malfunction, anyway. So it's a moot point. If my flip phone lasts 20 years, who cares? If my GY502 lasts 20 years, who cares?

That alone renders used electronics to have less value.

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01-24-2015 05:18 AM  3 years agoPost 133
McKrackin

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I sold a Silverline Vbar with about 5-6 flights on it.
I didn't like it and it wouldn't do what I wanted it to do.
There have been firmware updates that resolved my issue with it but still....there are lots of reasons to sell next to new electronics and the vast majority of those reasons have nothing to do with scamming.

I did NOT sell my Vbar for 25% either.
I think I recovered about 70% if memory serves.

If I had been offered 25% there would have been no reply from me.

I have also seen members here do the vulture thing.
They find someone they KNOW are in trouble with money for family reasons,lack of work or whatever and OPENLY try to take advantage of the seller. They know they are desparate and try to rip them off because they know they HAVE to sell.
These people.....well

I literally never use the word literally right.

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01-24-2015 05:42 AM  3 years agoPost 134
EEngineer

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Happens....

Get yourself in financial bind is not the buyers problem.

At least the buyer is helping with the liquidation sale.

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01-24-2015 05:49 AM  3 years agoPost 135
McKrackin

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But exploiting a persons financial problems is a scuzzy thing to do.
Ripping them off is not helping.
If you prey on someone's misfortune...you are scum.
You're trying to take advantage of someone to buy yourself a cheaper toy...think about it.

I literally never use the word literally right.

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01-24-2015 05:59 AM  3 years agoPost 136
EEngineer

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No, Krack....

Have to respectfully disagree...

With a necessary financial LQ sale, the buyer can't be blamed.

The seller's personal issues are his problems.

My point....

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01-24-2015 06:01 AM  3 years agoPost 137
McKrackin

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To seek out these problems to exploit is wrong.
Buying from someone who needs money is not wrong.
Trying to take advantage of them is..

The position is not defendable in my opinion and I won't discuss it further.

I literally never use the word literally right.

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01-24-2015 07:23 AM  3 years agoPost 138
Gearhead

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EEngineer I agree,, besides all that, most people that accepts a low ball offer just want to get rid of the idem and move on

Jim
Buzz Buzz Buzz

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01-24-2015 08:32 AM  3 years agoPost 139
EEngineer

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NP Krack...

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01-24-2015 02:19 PM  3 years agoPost 140
Jeff polisena

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Low balls don't bother me but man when you sit down tuck them in your shorts .

I just say no , the not reading post and asking questions that are in post is the fun stuff .
I usually sell for what I can get and move on ,I just ask for a fair deal for both to be happy .

I stole it ,flew it and gave it back ;)

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