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12-28-2014 05:44 PM  5 years ago
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Maybe this is part of the problem?
Ferguson officer placed on unpaid leave after calling Michael Brown memorial 'a pile of trash'
Zoll initially denied making the comments to his superiors, too
"Upon being confronted with the results of the Ferguson Police Department’s investigation regarding the remarks that were attributed to the Public Information Officer, the officer admitted to Department investigators that he did in fact make the remarks attributed to him, and that he misled his superiors when asked about the contents of the interview,"
http://news.yahoo.com/ferguson-poli...-154823869.html

Maybe police shouled RESPECT the public and not LIE.
Just remember -- if the world didn't suck, we would fall off.
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12-28-2014 05:49 PM  5 years ago
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Maybe police shouled RESPECT the public and not LIE.
True.

But, if you also expect cops to be anything other than human, then you will be constantly disappointed.
Liberty once lost, is lost forever.
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12-28-2014 06:03 PM  5 years ago
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It's a shame that speaking the truth will get you put on unpaid leave. How much more injustice do the police have to endure.
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12-28-2014 06:03 PM  5 years ago
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That cop seen the true side of michael brown...
If michael brown was the baby face poster they printed up, and not punching cops, i'm shure He would still be around
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12-28-2014 06:36 PM  5 years ago
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But, if you also expect cops to be anything other than human, then you will be constantly disappointed.
This is true...but,

As a police officer, you are paid, trained, and equipped to be the example, react appropriately, and act by a higher standard.

Whether you choose to follow the standard or not is human nature, but at which time, you should not be an officer and go work a regular civilian job dont you think?

When police make mistakes, people die and it's not always the bad guy that dies. So for me, I want to have confidence that he/she will work to a higher standard and in the best intrest of the public.
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12-28-2014 07:25 PM  5 years ago
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So your assumption Lady Magic is that Police or member's of Law enforcement make a lot of mistakes ?? Intentionally ??

Killing or arresting the innocent ? For Not committing a crime ?

All are Innocent until proven guilty unlike OTHER socialist country's where as ---they are Guilty until proven Innocent.

Ask ANy in PRISON : ALL are INNOCENT

In which of any of the public racist cases, or racial color --which where any ---Not Criminal Activity ???----supported by LAW VIOLATIONS ??:

---Which individual's ---did not have lengthy resumes or record's of Endless criminal activity - Even down the parental Linage or genealogy. A History of committing crime ?

Of the POLICE or LAW enforcement Agencies being prosecuted for doing their Job's : How Many Dept's or Individual's have the SAME criminal Record's and are still EMPLOYED.

Why question OUR LAW's of a FREE Democracy if you only under stand Socialism and Origin a Socialist Country ???

SOON our Inforcement Agencies : Will Just Watch -

As we also become Socialist- No- Prevention /

Just Reaction to the Post Event
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12-28-2014 07:47 PM  5 years ago
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Even down the parental Linage or genealogy. A History of committing crime ?
The Australian police need to start profiling all of those white descendants of british criminals.

Maybe stERiliZe them.

Not our fault gOD tOLd us tOO.

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12-28-2014 07:47 PM  5 years ago
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When police make mistakes, people die and it's not always the bad guy that dies. So for me, I want to have confidence that he/she will work to a higher standard and in the best intrest of the public.
I think they already do.

Approx 36,000 arrests are made each day in the USA.

More than 85% of those arrests involve no violence what so ever.

The higher standard already exists. There are plenty of statistics to back that up. Look them up instead of believing the bullsh#t you hear every day about cops.
Liberty once lost, is lost forever.
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12-28-2014 08:14 PM  5 years ago
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The higher standard already exists. There are plenty of statistics to back that up. Look them up instead of believing the bullsh#t you hear every day about cops.
Fair enough Dennis. And I don't believe all of the hype...especially most of what's been going on lately but, I really do think there are more than one standard for policing based on who and where you are in the US.

My hubby put it this way. "If I was ever pulled over by a cop and shot and there were no witnesses and he claimed self defense, the majority of the US would believe his side even if he was completely lying. And this is because I'm black so I must be a criminal."

So he says that he wouldn't feel safe in the states because it wouldn't take much to be killed where no justice would follow. This is because he would not be given the benifit of the doubt due to skin tone in most cases.
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12-28-2014 08:26 PM  5 years ago
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My hubby put it this way. "If I was ever pulled over by a cop and shot and there were no witnesses and he claimed self defense, the majority of the US would believe his side even if he was completely lying. And this is because I'm black so I must be a criminal."
In a situation like that, the benefit of the doubt goes to the cop.

However, the forensic evidence had better match up with the cops story or the cop goes down.
So he says that he wouldn't feel safe in the states because it wouldn't take much to be killed where no justice would follow. This is because he would not be given the benifit of the doubt due to skin tone in most cases.
All he has to do is cooperate with the cops and 99% chance he will be fine.

BTW: Be sure and tell him to keep his stupid hands out of his pockets.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.
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12-28-2014 08:37 PM  5 years ago
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Here is something else to wrap your head around.

There are approx 43 million blacks in the USA today.

How would you like to get a $10.00 donation from each one of those blacks to your organization?

That is why Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson exist as so called black civil rights organizations and they show up on the scene every single time a black is harmed in anyway. Either right or wrong. Those people actually promote racism for their own financial gain and they do very, very well at it.

The math is not hard to do.

On another note, the raw crime statistics in the USA does not back up your paranoia about cops in the USA and blacks. Blacks do a large percentage of the crimes in the USA as compared to whites and other races. There are reasons for that that will not go away anytime soon.

Look it up yourself. The FBI's web site is a great place to find those statistics.
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12-28-2014 08:39 PM  5 years ago
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If the cop shot me he would of course claim self defence and there would be a review and unless i had been shot in the back everyone would believe him.

They would also not burn down the city and murder random cops.

There also would not be a dozen "witnesses" who claim seeing anything from sandwich to many shots in the back. Niether turned out to be true...

Is LSD msking a comeback?
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12-28-2014 08:54 PM  5 years ago
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That is just so sad that your husband believes that :
And this is because I'm black so I must be a criminal."
The Very last thing - a LEO wishes to do is to ever pull the trigger.

He may un snap his clip or pull his gun - But only if the condition's negate the circumstance. Spider sense - Don't look right - Don't feel right.

Know of officer's whom have gone into re- fill coffee - walk past a empty car with Ingram's sitting on the seat, or brass on a car floor.

Many have gone to mandatory ballistic vests in just about every community. Their is a reason - the one you don't see.

Our small community we NEVER had Gun play it was unheard of Never Ever : Now it's getting common - ALL Money and Drug related making bank.

Sad because even though they shoot each other - they still had Mom's /
Girlfriend's / Sister's and Brothers and their Own Children including infant's.

It's NUtt's - We quit counting
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12-28-2014 09:04 PM  5 years ago
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It's a shame that speaking the truth will get you put on unpaid leave. How much more injustice do the police have to endure.
He did not speak the truth, which is the issue, thank you for ignoring the fact he LIED to his superiors during the investigation.

I don't care about his personal opinions. I don't care if he called the kid every name in the book.

I do have a big issue with a police officer that gets caught LYING.

See the difference.
Just remember -- if the world didn't suck, we would fall off.
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12-28-2014 09:13 PM  5 years ago
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He is respecting the public, and he told the truth. He should not have denied the truth in the beginning.

The brown crap is a pile of trash.

Maybe the black community should respect the law, then there would be no trouble like this.

Remembering that thug for anything more then a dumb criminal who got exactly what he asked for! Is idiocy, and reverse racism.
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12-28-2014 09:17 PM  5 years ago
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Blacks do a large percentage of the crimes in the USA as compared to whites and other races.
That is a fact.

It is also a fact that the 13% black population collect more welfare then the 65% ish population that is white.

That is directly tied to crime.

Education Is key here, and I don't know how, but there in lies the problem.
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12-28-2014 09:27 PM  5 years ago
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He is respecting the public, and he told the truth. He should not have denied the truth in the beginning.
Do you actually read what you post.

Did he tell the truth or not?

What part of lying during an investigation involves race?
Just remember -- if the world didn't suck, we would fall off.
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12-28-2014 09:37 PM  5 years ago
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So let's build memorial's and memorialize criminal activity -

Same Exact Thing Al Sharpton promotes;;

How many Father's did each of these young men have ?

Why don't they publish the criminal arrest record's ?? at the Memorial.
Or the Parent's and Grand parent's record's ??

MOMA and DADDY made a THUG -They should walk in Humility like a Daughter that get's pregnant - Don't KNOW whoo the Dada is ??

Also Note : Long before they become arrested on PAPER or their lives tossed in Prison, their lives are filled with other countless crime never accounted for .

They want JOB's : Do a background record search - see if they are accountable and trustworthy:

Don't even have to look for criminal activity

Think of this precept Who IN their RIGHT Mind - If they had looked into OBAMA's Back round would have voted for HIM ??? NONE
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12-29-2014 08:59 AM  5 years ago
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Dennis you dont actually think reality is going to make any difference to lady magic? Lmao
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12-29-2014 08:30 PM  5 years ago
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All he has to do is cooperate with the cops and 99% chance he will be fine.
BTW: Be sure and tell him to keep his stupid hands out of his pockets.
Oh Dennis, he's smart enough not to give anyone a reason. When he's in a store he stands in the middle of the isle so the cameras don't think he's trying to steal anything. Same goes for when he's pulled over. Hand where they can be seen, compliant, and polite, but I was there when he was treated very rudely by a cop despite doing everything you said.

It's kind of sad that he has to have a completely different persona when he's out and about just so doesn't get shot to death or make white people feel uncomfortable.

You stated 99%...what about that other 1%? That's what I'm worried about hun.

I do believe that Brown wasn't an innocent little bunny rabbit though. But, Wilson isn't either. If it wasn't Brown..then it would have been someone else. Just sayin
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