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12-26-2014 02:27 PM  5 years ago
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Racial disparities exist in all parts of the US
I was surfing the web today and I came across this article. I am curious what you guys think. I've heard from several people that racism doesn't exist in the US anymore and that opportunties for minorities are equal.

While it may sound like this is a tool to excuse the poor thinking and the destructive actions of a small group of blacks in the country it is not. But, it does show evidence that maybe there is a bigger problem that needs to be addressed. What do you guys think?

All opinions are welcomed just please keep it civil and somewhat respectful.

Here are a few excerpts from the article.

The 5 Worst States for Black Americans

Racial disparities in social and economic outcomes exist in all parts of the United States. Black Americans make about 62 cents for every dollar earned by white Americans. Black Americans are also twice as likely to be unemployed and considerably more likely to live in poverty.

In some places, these disparities are even more pronounced. In many of the worst states for black Americans, there are opportunities to get a good job, earn good pay, and buy a home in a good community. However, these opportunities are not uniformly accessible across racial lines. Based on an examination of a number of socio-economic measures, 24/7 Wall St. identified the worst states for black Americans.

According to Dr. Valerie Wilson, Program Director on Race and Ethnicity in the Economy at the Economic Policy Institute, “You’re never going to find a state or city where the outcome for blacks are better than for whites.” For centuries, there have been stark differences in the conditions and opportunities black Americans have faced.

The Civil Rights Movement led to hopes that racial inequality would soon end. The movement led to a series of reforms, including the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the Voting Rights Act of 1965, and other legislation, known as the “Great Society.” Over the following 50 years, however, further advances have been modest at best.

According to Dedrick Asante-Muhammad, Senior Director of the Economic Department at the NAACP Financial Freedom Center, “It’s one thing to end segregation, but it’s another thing to talk about billions of dollars of investment.” When the United States invested in a middle class in the 1940s and 1950s, it was in a white middle class, explained Asante-Muhammad. However, the country was “never willing to do that same type of investment to create a middle class that would be inclusive of African Americans.”

The effects of this unwillingness to invest in the black community are clear in the racial economic outcome gaps. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, for example, the national jobless rate for November was 5.8% nationwide. Among white Americans, the figure was 4.9%. Among black Americans it was 11.1%.

Segregation also creates different communities with different social services. The quality of schools, property values, the quality of services available, and the quality of food are all “legacies of racially segregated neighborhoods in this country,” said Wilson. Six of the worst states were home to nearly half of the 30 most segregated U.S. cities, according to a University of Michigan Institute for Social Research study on racial segregation in large metropolitan areas.

Few factors do more to improve people’s livelihoods than access to good jobs. High employment rates contribute to higher incomes, better health insurance coverage, as well as lower poverty rates. In eight of the worst states for black Americans, the difference between black unemployment rates and that of the whole workforce was higher than the national difference. Black Americans in these states also tended to have higher poverty rates, lower incomes, and lower educational attainment rates than both their white peers and black residents in other states.

You can read the full article here:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/savi...id=iehp#image=1
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12-26-2014 03:16 PM  5 years ago
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It all boils down to education. Without a HS diploma, you'll be lucky to get a job anywhere, doing anything. So... stay in school and get into college if you can...
Saying that...we have school choice here in our county. The black parts of the county admittedly had poor schools and we were under FORCED busing for decades. That was lifted many years ago.
So, what they did, was dump a TON of money into black neighborhood schools, making them "magnet schools". Built new buildings, hired the BEST teachers in the area and created specialized programs to ease the students into GOOD colleges and vocational programs (we have one specializing in IT with graduates ready to make a living straight out of high school with MSE certs).
Know what happened??? All of the white kids wanted to go to those schools and Flooded those schools even though they were "in the hood". The black kids living there??? They just wanted to escape the neighborhood and chose to bus over here and got to school at lesser schools.
So now everybody is up in arms that the schools here aren't up to the standards of the schools in the black part of town.... when they could avoid being bused and just walk to school.
Draw your own conclusions from that one.....
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12-26-2014 03:18 PM  5 years ago
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From the article's link:

1. Wisconsin
2. Minnesota
3. Rhode Island
4. Illinois
5. Pennsylvania
6. Michigan
7. Connecticut
8. New Jersey
9. Kansas
10. Arkansas

South loses again.
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12-26-2014 03:22 PM  5 years ago
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I was surfing the web today and I came across this article. I am curious what you guys think. I've heard from several people that racism doesn't exist in the US anymore and that opportunties for minorities are equal.
Those that say racism does not exist in the USA are foolish and delusional.

And, yes blacks do have a harder time than others.

However, anyone who gets a good education and applies himself/herself to it, works hard and is honest will move ahead in life.

Anyone. Black, white, Hispanic or otherwise.

Period.
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12-26-2014 03:25 PM  5 years ago
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it does show evidence that maybe there is a bigger problem that needs to be addressed. What do you guys think?
Until they as a group decide that they are done living as they do nothing will change, There are many Blacks who have worked their a$$ off and made something of themselves. There is no excuse for the rest of them,except they choose to live as they do.

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12-26-2014 04:06 PM  5 years ago
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It all boils down to education. Without a HS diploma, you'll be lucky to get a job anywhere,
truck driver jobs is one job that you dont need a hs diploma
there are many hi paying jobs that dont require

till, for many workers the ability to complete a high school education remains elusive, even as their need to bring home a paycheck is paramount. With that mind, AOL Jobs, with the help of PayScale and Bureau of Labor Statistics data, has compiled a list of nine jobs for which it's possible to find employment without a high school diploma.

As PayScale notes, however, though it's possible to land one of these jobs without a high school degree, the odds will be stacked against you. Much of your success will depend upon your skill and ability, whom you know, and working your way up the ladder.

You'll also note that these jobs are in similar fields. Georgetown University's research shows the majority (60 percent) of the jobs that will soon become available to high school dropouts will be in just four sectors -- three of which are dominated by men: transportation, distribution and logistics; architecture and construction; and manufacturing. The remaining sector, hospitality and tourism, is dominated by women.

With these limitations in mind, here are some good-paying jobs for which a high-school dropout may be eligible.

8. Automotive Service Technician or Mechanic
Automotive service technicians and mechanics, often called service technicians or service techs, inspect, maintain, and repair cars and light trucks. The job frequently involves working with high-tech components, such as computers and electronics, but also involves greasy parts and tools. Some employers may require applicants to have some formal post-secondary education and the need for certification is growing. The Bureau of Labor Statistics forecasts average job growth of about 17 percent.

*Median annual pay: $35,600.
**Percentage of those employed in this job with a high-school diploma (45 percent) or less (19 percent).

Looking for a job as an automotive service technician? Click here to get started.

7. Welder (and Cutter, Solderer or Brazer)
All of these professions involve joining metal parts and doing finishing work, including filling holes or seams in metal products using handheld tools. These jobs may involve working in confined spaces indoors, or in inclement weather or on scaffolding outdoors. Heavy lifting may also be required. Training for the job varies from a few weeks of school to -- for more specialized jobs -- several years of combined schooling and on-the-job training. Overall job growth through 2020 is forecast at 15 percent.

Median annual pay: $36,400.
Percentage of those employed in this job with a high-school diploma (50 percent) or less (23 percent).

Looking for a job as a welder? Click here to get started.

6. Carpenter
Carpenters perform a wide variety of construction-related jobs, including building stairways, door frames, rafters and other products made from wood and other materials. They also may install kitchen cabinets, siding and drywall. It can be dirty and tedious work, and may involve working in all kinds of weather -- from broiling heat to bitter cold -- depending on project deadlines. Most carpenters learn the trade through a formal apprenticeship, though some start as helpers and learn as they go. Despite the ongoing slump in construction, generally, the need for carpenters is expected to grow 20 percent through 2020 -- faster than the average for all occupations.

Median annual pay: $36,900.
Percentage of those employed in this job with a high-school diploma (44 percent) or less (25 percent).

Looking for a job as a carpenter? Click here to get started.

5. Heavy Equipment Operator
This job typically involves operating heavy machinery used in the construction of roads, bridges, buildings and other structures. It can be challenging work in part because heavy-equipment operators work in most any weather. A full-time job, it can also involve working odd hours, since some construction projects, especially road building, are done at night. Job growth at 23 percent through 2020, is faster than the average for all occupations.

Median annual pay: $38,900.
Percentage of those employed in this job with a high-school diploma (52 percent) or less (25 percent).

Looking for a job as an heavy equipment operator? Click here to get started.

4. Diesel Mechanic
Though hybrid vehicles have caught the attention of many drivers seeking higher fuel economy, diesel engines are becoming more popular among car buyers -- and at some point they will require repair. Add to those the nation's fleet of 10 million diesel delivery and over-the-road trucks (not to mention buses) and you get a pretty good idea why forecasts call for job growth of about 15 percent through 2020 -- about average. As with any mechanic's job, it can be dirty work and overtime may be required. Also, employers increasingly prefer applicants to have completed a post-secondary training program.

Median annual pay: $38,900.
Percentage of those employed in this job with a high-school diploma (49 percent) or less (16 percent).

Looking for a job as a diesel mechanic? Click here to get started.

3. Heavy-Truck Driver
This job typically involves moving goods from one destination to another and may mean covering a wide variety of terrain, from bustling city streets to miles of wide-open highway. A commercial driver's license is required, and it's not uncommon for employers to stipulate that applicants have at least two years of experience. Downsides may include spending long hours alone, as well as days and weeks away from home. BLS forecasts call for higher-than-average employment growth among truck drivers through the end of the decade.

Median annual pay: $39,400.
Percentage of those employed in this job with a high-school diploma (50 percent) or less (20 percent).

Looking for a job as an heavy-truck driver? Click here to get started.

2. Executive Assistant
Executive assistants typically have some formal education, though requirements to do the job -- office, computer and organizational skills -- don't necessarily mean those with lesser education don't have a shot of landing the job. Within the general secretarial field, forecasts call for demand to increase 12 percent through 2020, about average among all professions.

Median annual pay: $43,700.
Percentage of those employed in this job with a high-school diploma (31 percent) or less (2 percent).

Looking for a job as an executive assistant? Click here to get started.

1. General Manager, Restaurant
Restaurant managers, also known, as food-service managers, are responsible for the daily operations of restaurants and other establishments that prepare and serve food and beverages. Though relatively well-paid, restaurant managers are known to log long hours, including weekends and many holidays.

Median annual pay: $43,900.
Percentage of those employed in this job with a high-school diploma (30 percent) or less (10 percent).

Looking for a job as a restaurant manager? Click here to get started.

*Median annual pay is based on PayScale's surveys of workers with 5 to 8 years of experience on the job, and includes all forms of compensation. "Median" means half of all workers in a given occupation earned less, while half earned more.

**Percentage of workers who are either high school dropouts or have only a high school diploma is as published in "Career Clusters: Forecasting Demand for High School Through College Jobs, 2008–2018," by the Georgetown University Center on Education and the Workforce.
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12-26-2014 04:14 PM  5 years ago
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till, for many workers the ability to complete a high school education remains elusive, even as their need to bring home a paycheck is paramount. With that mind, AOL Jobs, with the help of PayScale and Bureau of Labor Statistics data, has compiled a list of nine jobs for which it's possible to find employment without a high school diploma.
Sorry, I don't buy your list as its published.

Without a high school diploma you usually do not just LAND those type of jobs. More likely you will work into them by starting at the lower pay scales and showing some motivation, drive and talent.

Sometimes you might have a family member that will lead you into those type of jobs.

Of course, again I am speaking in general terms.
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12-26-2014 04:25 PM  5 years ago
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Racism exists in the world because we continue to allow it to exist.

No one in the media reports that a human killed a human. But we keep watching the idiots spouting the garbage, and get this, they get paid too, and most people are ok with that. Think people. Turn them off and they will have to change. Money talks.

Our gov divides us by race on all our forms, and we keep filling the stupid things out. Come on, are you all that stupid? Refuse to use the damn forms until "Race" is removed, or write in "Human".

Once the HUMANS on the planet decide that there is really only one "Race", HUMAN, racisim will no longer exist.

When someone asks you your "race" answer "human".

Don't repeat and repost the the stupid media headlines, edit out racial identification.

Take a stand, if your not, your the problem.
Just remember -- if the world didn't suck, we would fall off.
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12-26-2014 05:27 PM  5 years ago
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It all boils down to education.
I think that's one of biggest problems. The likelyhood of an black American being able to obtain even a HS diploma is much lower...let alone an advanced degree.

I think part of that is social discipline within the community, but also a lack of guidance during the school years to help direct them down paths to higher learning.

I also think a substaintial investment (not a handout) in the black community and access to better jobs would help qual some of the issues that blacks face financially. I know some will abuse or not take advantage somehow but, I really think many would use that opportunity to advance. Overall, the entire country could benifit by having to pay less for incarations, violent crime, drugs, and even gun control.

In the end, the racial divide would be much smaller and those who choose not to better themselves could more easily be weeded out. If that's how they want to live then it'll totally on them...excuses won't fly.
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12-26-2014 05:33 PM  5 years ago
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I also think a substaintial investment (not a handout) in the black community and access to better jobs would help qual some of the issues that blacks face financially. I know some will abuse or not take advantage somehow but, I really think many would use that opportunity to advance. Overall, the entire country could benifit by having to pay less for incarations, violent crime, drugs, and even gun control.
The single largest problem in these type of communities is no father in the house and/or a problem mother usually with no education herself and very probably a drug abuser.

Those type of problems will not disappear overnight and will take a hard and solid commitment from the federal government and the entire welfare system.

The chances of that changing significantly is slim at best.
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12-26-2014 06:01 PM  5 years ago
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Truck driver jobs is one job that you dont need a hs diploma 
Don't need? Maybe true, but lets say for example that you and esco and a third black canidate who has some distiguishing background like a year or two of colege or military experience and references are applying for jobs at the same trucking company. One guy is black one is a brown and the third is blaq.

They need two guys. Which 2 will it be?
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12-26-2014 06:15 PM  5 years ago
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They need two guys. Which 2 will it be?
It won't be a little turd with no education and no citizenship. That's for sure.
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12-26-2014 06:33 PM  5 years ago
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Blaq in America is Culture conditioned to believe that
whyte is superior and Blaq is inferior.
And a nation without a history/knowledge of the
stigmata they face is like a tree with no roots
and we're not intended to be that tree.
I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,
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12-26-2014 06:51 PM  5 years ago
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Those who want to characterize/character assassinate uBlaq need to STFU and go to the back of the line
where they can get fresh a start on how Blaq struggle
begin and lasted until this day.
I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,
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12-26-2014 07:01 PM  5 years ago
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The history books 40 50 year ago doesn't properly teach the generation exist then of the deprivation of
of what is known as knowledge and truth.

This is why we have grown up here now can only Adhere to what happen since the civil rights struggle begin.
I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,
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12-26-2014 08:05 PM  5 years ago
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I looked up graduation rates for the past few decades. Drop out rates have declined quite a bit for blacks nationally. Still double of whites, but Hispanics have much higher drop out rates than blacks.

So basically education only partly explains this problem.

Another aspect is the A$$tard rate. Nationally 1% of Asians are fecking a$$tards, 4% of whites are fecking a$$tards, and according to recent RR data 30% of blacks are fecking a$$tards.

Escotard for example is completely unemployable. I ask our honorable topic host LadyMagic, would you hire him to be your computer programming consultant? Accountant? Be honest, would you hire him to mow your lawn?
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12-26-2014 08:36 PM  5 years ago
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Escotard for example is completely unemployable. I ask our honorable topic host LadyMagic, would you hire him to be your accountant? Be honest, would you hire him to mow your lawn?
Spiff for the last 4 weeks I been hauling Hazardous]
Material from CA to MA, for 5500 each way my truck
Payment is $4400 por months my fuel is 1300 each way
Just think of the kind of money hit my bank acct:
Weekly.

If you thinks a HSDPLM] or GED isn't necessary to drive truck, why don't you apply and see....?
Do it for the fun of it, go even further try to get
A HAZMAT] certificate and see what's needed.

AND THE test get harder every time you have to renew
And background is a must pass.

any felony or some misdemeanor can prevent you from
Getting a trucking Jobs or some certification that requires to do certain things in the trucking industry.

So culture bomb me some more I M loving it.
I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,
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12-26-2014 08:43 PM  5 years ago
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Any company that hire driver with very little or no
Education run the risk of serious law suit incase of
A minor accidents or you won't be makings any money.
I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,
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12-26-2014 09:04 PM  5 years ago
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Too bad racism is preventing escotard from having a job making good money. This is such a cruel racist world.

Dude, which side are you on again?
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12-26-2014 09:17 PM  5 years ago
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1. Wisconsin
2. Minnesota
3. Rhode Island
4. Illinois
5. Pennsylvania
6. Michigan
7. Connecticut
8. New Jersey
9. Kansas
10. Arkansas
Very interesting.

Mosty liberal states...
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