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12-22-2014 06:08 AM  5 years ago
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gologo

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Handgun owners
Hey guys, just been wanting to throw this out there, know there are a lot
of gun enthusiasts on here.

Anyway, just kind of getting interested in getting one and just wondered what some of you like in semis or revolvers. I am looking in particular,
at the Glock 19/9mm series.

NOT looking to make this yet another hobby, just something for the home
and occasional range.

Thanks for any input good or bad........
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12-22-2014 06:30 AM  5 years ago
nismoflip

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Best thing is to rent a few at the range and see what suits you. You'll find that some feel better than others for your particular hands. I like 9 myself and prefer an all steel construction. My wife and I have CZ SP-01s. For home defense I wouldn't mind having a 45 in my nightstand safe but since my wife shoots 9 well, that's what's in the safe.
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12-22-2014 06:39 AM  5 years ago
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This is as almost as risky a question as asking which type of FBL unit do you prefer. I am sure that there will be different opinions on both caliber as well as make.

Since I have a little experience in the law enforcement side, I can only give you calibers on what is used. The .40SW and the .357 automag. My area used the .40SW exclusively, and I must have shot thousands of rounds during my involvement, and I never had a single load failure with my weapon.

My personal home self defense weapon is a Beretta model 96 chambered in the .40SW. I also like my Ruger, but the hammer pinches the web between my thumb and forefinger. I find in non combat scenarios, it is slightly more accurate than my Beretta, but I have time to consciously make sure that the web on my hand isn't riding above the top of the beavertail. In a combat draw and fire exercise, I don't have that luxury, and find out about the blood blisters that get raised after I finish the exercise. On both of those guns I can hit a javelena target at 100 yards 2 out of 3 times and knock it down. It doesn't get bowled over, but it falls.

I trust my life and that of those around me to it. The .40 has a one shot stop value that is much better than a 9mm or even a .45. The recoil is manageable.

I would also recommend the HK Compact .40. For some reason I never really took to Glocks, although they are a popular gun. Mostly, I recommend that you go to a range and shoot everything you can and see what your best feel is. I have large hands, so the larger guns feel much more comfortable than the smaller ones. If you have a wife, and she will be shooting, then there might be some compromise in your choice so that the grip can fit her hand.

Good luck, and practice as much as you can.
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12-22-2014 07:36 AM  5 years ago
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My wife loves her hk usp 40sw.
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12-22-2014 10:17 AM  5 years ago
dschertz

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I second nismo, go to a range and try some different ones. Different brands of calibers as well, they are all different.
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12-22-2014 11:39 AM  5 years ago
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I saw a nice youtube demonstration on balistics recently that demonstrated that even the little 380 acp is quite effective so long as you are using hollow points. Projectile development has largely closed the gap between 380 and 45acp. They even have bullets that look like a weird crown. They are designed to fragment and fan out. Devistating.

I prefer 9mm acp because it is most common and often half the cost of most other calibers.

Glocks are very popular. Reliable and accurate in most peoples hands. It is a bit like golf though. 80% shooter and 20% pistol in most cases. If you flinch they all kinda suck, if you dont flinch most of them will work great. I had a glock for several years. I ended up with a pretty good collection ranging from 22 ruger bearcat revolver, 380 semi auto pocket guns like the S&W bodyguard 380. sig 238, Cowboy 357 mag revolvers, and a few Sprinfield XD variations up to 45 acp. I love them all.

When the police helicopters start flying i ussually will open the safe and grab a 45acp Spingfield XD. When i go to the range to play i ussually bring 22lr 9mm and 357 mostly for the cheaper ammo. I reload 357 and use the cheaper standard ball ammo at the range. You can very easily spend several times more on ammo than the gun, so i would go with 9mm if you plan on playing. Good mix of power and cost.

The only guns i am aware of that i would not recomed are the ruger LCP 380 and the LC9. well made but most people struggle to hit targets with them.
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12-22-2014 12:27 PM  5 years ago
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There's alot of misinformation in this thread....Likley due to perception and preferences...

First of all without specific shot placement (IE Head shot) there is no one shot stopping power....least not in a standard handgun load (exceptions apply). The closeset caliber you'll get to that is 10mm....which as an initial gun owner I wouldnt recommend.

Second.... .380.... it has it's place....as a good pocket gun running out to the grocery store...not much else...good to have tho.

Spaceman Spiff (RE projectile development) was referencing the R.I.P. round...dont buy into it....its a crap fad projectile designed for a niche market of keyboard commandos...I implore you to go find some on a shelf right now...give me a standard T-series round...

Better yet....heck with the handgun...give me a rifle....I just use the pistol to fight my way back to it...

Do your own research and like the others said go try what works for you....stay in a mainstream brand even if you have to spend a bit more...

Like they say in the fast car business....there's no replacement for displacement....find the gun matched with the round that works best for you and your application. Theres plenty of ballistic data out there as well as firearms reviews from independent third parties.
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12-22-2014 02:58 PM  5 years ago
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I hope to use my 45 ACP to fight my way to the safe room where my shotgun is kept.........

the 45ACP is my CCW too

It is equipped with a crimson trace laser...which is awesome in my book..
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12-22-2014 02:59 PM  5 years ago
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I have a Glock 19 9mm I poured boxes and boxes of rounds through and it just works. Keep it clean and use good ammo. As far as what is the best caliber well that is a political/religious debate that is often times fueled by personal bias and misinformation. Best bet is to go rent some guns and put some rounds through them and see what feels best. It doesn't matter how awesome a caliber is if it is unbearable to shoot. A guy who is comfortable and accurate with a 9mm will always out shoot and walk away from a situation more often alive than the guy who just buys a big ass gun because the internet says so and it is awful to shoot. Me, I despise .40, it has a nasty sharp recoil and I just hate it. I love .45 though, it has a strong but smooth recoil. For just having something to afford to shoot and still be useful 9mm is fine as long as you use a good performing round. Most 9mm detractors base their feelings on information gathered using ball ammo. There are plenty of 9mm rounds that will put a dirt bag down.

It sounds like you just want to get into it and put some rounds downrange. 9mm will be fine. If it's home defense skip all the handgun nonsense and have a tactical 12 gauge shotgun. That's what I have. I'm not a gun nut but I like to go shooting so the 9 is for that. The tactical short barrel shotgun is for the dirt bag that made the poor series of choices that ended with him in my house uninvited.
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12-22-2014 03:04 PM  5 years ago
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If it's home defense skip all the handgun nonsense and have a tactical 12 gauge shotgun.
100% agree. Bonus, you get to teach your wife to duck hunt.(db practice)
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12-22-2014 03:18 PM  5 years ago
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If it's home defense skip all the handgun nonsense and have a tactical 12 gauge shotgun.
Agree++

But don't skip the pistol course, a lot of fun!!!
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12-22-2014 03:46 PM  5 years ago
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UIH,

The first thing I feel,

How does it "feel" or "fit" in your hand? Very important

Access to mag release or other features without loosing correct grip.

Personally, I like the feel of HK grips and the option of changing the grip back strap and side plates. The grip texture is easy on the hand over many many rounds down range at one setting and work well with gloves.

The P30 has a nicer "paddle" type mag release than the 2000SK but both "fit" my hand very well.

Work from there.

UIH,

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12-22-2014 04:08 PM  5 years ago
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12-22-2014 04:15 PM  5 years ago
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i too love my glock 21 10mm 3" barrel perfect ccw weapon. i had a para ordinance p10 custom 45acp but it was very unreliable i bought it brand new had the top line stainless with dual release, custom trigger lightened hammer and the dam thing would stove pipe every shot sent it canada and they returned it and within a outing or two to the range the dam thing started acting up again so figure the last thing i would want was a unreliable gun the po was 45acp and my Glock is 10mm so difference is a mm or 3 but the Glock never miss a beat even with crap ammo so sold the paper weight po and kept my Glock my only cons with the Glock is a 10mm ammo is expensive so plan to swap my barrel to 40sw so i can buy ammo at 10$ less per box love the Glocks hammerless trigger and it just feels and acts the part. wish my came with a rail mount up front to mount laser but i can get the expensive laser which goes in the spring assembly but i haven't needed it so i just stick with my night sights

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12-22-2014 04:31 PM  5 years ago
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10mm 3' barrel perfect ccw weapon
You must be HUGE and VERY, VERY tall!!!!!!!!
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12-22-2014 05:24 PM  5 years ago
gologo

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THANKS for some great replys!!

I think 9mm will be most likely where I end up, but not 100% yet. Have also
considered 40 and 45, but coming from 22s all these years, 9mm would be a
big step up anyway.

Rifle/shotgun is actually what I want to get away from. Don't hunt and would not want to buy a H/G just to tuck it away somewhere and forget it.
Would definitely be taking it out and enjoying it. But as was mentioned,
wouldn't be hard to go crazy w. the ammo and end up at or beyond the price
of the gun itself........don't want to do that!

Now just need to check into where the closest range is that rents them out
nothing close around here. But great idea of course.

Thank you guys!
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12-22-2014 05:38 PM  5 years ago
gologo

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OKW14.........
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12-22-2014 06:00 PM  5 years ago
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OKW14 gets my vote for best post of the month!
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12-22-2014 11:41 PM  5 years ago
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Projectile development has largely closed the gap between 380 and 45acp.

Not if you use the same type of projectile in both weapons
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12-23-2014 12:33 AM  5 years ago
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I will try to dig up that test video. 380 is of course not as good as 45, but it does do better than i and probably most others expect.
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