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11-14-2014 02:59 AM  3 years agoPost 1
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VIDEO: Jonathan Gruber Admitted Obama Was In the Room When Cadillac Tax Lie Was Created. UPDATE: WHITE HOUSE LOGS CONFIRM!

Posted by Jim Hoft on Thursday, November 13, 2014, 3:21 PM

On June 13, 2012, Obamacare Jonathan Gruber was interviewed by Frontline. He told them that the Cadillac tax issue was addressed in 2009. Obama knew it was going to be a problem, and they all agreed to lie about it. An excerpt from his Frontline interview is below.

What Jonathan Gruber is taking heat for right now, was planned out specifically with Barack Obama. It wasn’t just him. It was all of them, with Obama in the room taking part.

From Jonathan Gruber’s Frontline interview in June 2012.
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The next time I see him is summer 2009. The big issue there is that he really wants to make sure I’m moving forward on cost control. I think that at this point he sort of knew we had a good plan on coverage, but he was worried on cost control. So we had a meeting in the Oval Office with several experts, including myself, on what can we do to get credible savings on cost control that the Congressional Budget Office would recognize and score as savings in this law.

And that was a meeting — it was very exciting, once again, because the economists in the room all said the number one thing you need to do is you need to take on the tax subsidy to employer-sponsored insurance. We need one minute of background on this. The way employer-sponsored insurance works is, if you get paid in wages, you get taxed. If you get paid in health insurance, you do not. …

So this tax subsidy economists have been railing against for decades, it’s super-expensive. We forego about $250 billion per year in tax revenues. It’s regressive — the richer you are, the bigger tax break you get. And it’s inefficient because it causes people to buy excessive health insurance. So everyone in the room said, “You want something that is real cost control that we know it will work, go after this.”

Now, the problem is, it’s a political nightmare, … and people say, “No, you can’t tax my benefits.” So what we did a lot in that room was talk about, well, how could we make this work? And Obama was like, “Well, you know” — I mean, he is really a realistic guy. He is like, “Look, I can’t just do this.” He said: “It is just not going to happen politically. The bill will not pass. How do we manage to get there through phases and other things?” And we talked about it. And he was just very interested in that topic.
Once again, that ultimately became the genesis of what is called the Cadillac tax in the health care bill, which I think is one of the most important and bravest parts of the health care law and doesn’t get nearly enough credit. I mean, this is the first time after years and years of urging — and the entire health policy, there was not one single health expert in America who is setting up a system from scratch, would have this employer subsidy in place. Not one.

So after years and years of us wanting to get rid of this, to finally go after it was just such a huge victory for health policy. And I’m just incredibly proud that he and the others who supported this law were willing to do it. …

UPDATE: WHITE HOUSE DENIES GRUBER, WHITE HOUSE LOGS PROVE GRUBER WAS TELLING TRUTH

The White House reached out to left wing reporters at Talking Points Memo to deny Gruber had a role, saying Gruber didn’t “work” at the White House.
In the Frontline interview, Gruber says,
“The next time I see him is summer 2009. The big issue there is that he really wants to make sure I’m moving forward on cost control. I think that at this point he sort of knew we had a good plan on coverage, but he was worried on cost control. So we had a meeting in the Oval Office with several experts, including myself, on what can we do to get credible savings on cost control that the Congressional Budget Office would recognize and score as savings in this law.”

Was Gruber lying? Was he in the Oval Office with the President in the summer of 2009, talking about how to game the CBO numbers?

He was. On July 20, 2009, Jonathan Gruber meets with POTUS in the West Wing. He was there almost four hours.

Obama was at the center of this deception. He specifically ordered Gruber and other “healthcare experts” to find ways to game the CBO numbers so that the bill would pass. In his gleeful showboating over passing the bill, Jonathan Gruber has clearly identified President Obama as the source of the lie behind the Cadillac Tax. The story is no longer about Jonathan Gruber. It’s about the deliberate lie the President used to pass this monstrosity of a healthcare law.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...ie-was-created/

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11-14-2014 05:00 AM  3 years agoPost 2
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So ah.

Now its official.

Just like Clint Eastwood said,

"Some day, America will come to realize that Obama is the single largest fraud ever perpetrated upon America"

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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11-14-2014 05:06 AM  3 years agoPost 3
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When Gruber was in the Room w/ Obama / WHO ELSE WAS IN THE ROOM WITH OBAMA : NOT ALONE !
25 of the Democratic Congress Men and Congress Women that sighed it - are NO- Longer in Congress.

They are BACK in the STATE and City of Their HOME DISTRICT"S where you VOTE !!

YOUR Congressional Representatives. NO LONGER LEGISLATOR's

They maybe Flipping Burgers or Hanging Wall paper

Many upon MANY of NON Government Legislator's : NON - Responsible parties but HIRED Employee's of THIS OBAMA ADMINISTRATION :

Have Silently Slipped away or Resigned - NON Law Writer's or accountable but working Administrative LABOR Staff :YET RESPONSIBLE

YES THEY HAVE CREATED { Administration Player's and Schemer's } of the Ever Musical Seat's : A Constitutional Crisis

The FUN is ABOUT to Begin : The Flagrant Assault on the Constitutional System.

Lawlessness :

Impeachment is ONLY a Punishment !! It IS NOT a Solution ;

This is ONLY one of THE PHONEY SCANDELs or ONE of THE SMIDGEON

That the Public is AWARE of -----------------------

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11-14-2014 10:02 AM  3 years agoPost 4
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Does not get any better does it? I just love it! I knew it was a scam to begin with. All those people in the media letting these retards get away with murder is beyond me. Gruber is right tho, over half of the American population is stupid or do not care. He is only stating the truth.

Got to have my cup of heli in the morning.

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11-14-2014 10:06 AM  3 years agoPost 5
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The floors, walls and ceilings are rumbling and shaking with anticipation of more videos coming.

It truly don't get any better than this.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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11-14-2014 10:41 AM  3 years agoPost 6
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11-14-2014 12:11 PM  3 years agoPost 7
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The shock will come when, or more likely if, anyone finds an instance where Obama actually told the truth about anything.

Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!

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11-14-2014 02:40 PM  3 years agoPost 8
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Know The Culture : Learn It / Look For it / Recognize It
The shock will come when, or more likely if, anyone finds an instance where Obama actually told the truth about anything.
Absolute Professional SKATE's : Expert's : Practiced and Taught

Norm Every Day - It's natural to Escape / Preplanned ALSO

Known as : PLAUSIBLE DENI- ABILITY

exp sample only: ( WMD }
If it'S ON tHE lIST IT dON'T eXSIST - iT'S ALL ON THE lIST Just look for the Stuff NOT on the List : Gather ALL

How to bend /or avoid morality or ANy form of Code of Conduct.

It's CULTURAL : NO accountability nor responsibility = EXIT

It's ALL Good & Permissible Long as they Don't GEt Caught

Code's law's and Rule's are OUT and Disregarded.

LEARN

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11-14-2014 03:38 PM  3 years agoPost 9
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I'm sure he'll say he's never heard of the guy and that he only recently found out about this from FOX News....

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11-14-2014 03:55 PM  3 years agoPost 10
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It's Tied Directly to Immigration / IRS / Economy and even Further out on the End of the Fork : More of a National Security / Sovereignty issue than a stupid Political Issue. People only look at what is under their nose.

Instant Gratification : Used as a Tool of Ploy / preparation of the soil
You change the population / you change the policy:
No Need for a Siege Machine :

No Moral LAW /No Allegiance or Conviction to Country

Worse than CRIMINAL or ANYthing you can List against :

GOD's NOT DEAD : Purpose alway's in the Lesson

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11-14-2014 07:03 PM  3 years agoPost 11
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11-14-2014 07:24 PM  3 years agoPost 12
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That 10 Year's wouldn't be too hard to dig out if it isn't covered -It's Evidenc

Somebody has surely done their Home work on that ----if they want to go back too it.

He used the Foreign Student Exchange program to gain University access - Then a Name Change. Then when he entered or returned as a Young boy back from Kenya to be raised by Grand parent's ? but born in Hawaii

Little Occupational Income or Holding ANY JOB record ; Choom Boy not even tossing a Pizza so Income > ??

He actually doesn't pop up publicly until around 1991 or 93 ? 1st Gulf was around 1990 or Kuwait, 1st WTC was around 1993 when they blew out the parking ramps. 911 was 2001

2 Yr's in the Illinois State House voting present and the Church : maybe it was Michelle who drug him in ?? Reverend Jeremiah Wright and Jessi And Al Sharpeton have clammed up but Jessi's Kid is in Prison and so is Blagovich

Give it time - Patience

P.S> NO CHRISTIAN want's ANY THING to do with Politics : Why it is Highly Doubtful that the gifted Pediatric Brain Surgeon will run : It was actually LBJ that Threatened the Nation's Churches with the IRS - His opponent was a Church Member -

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11-15-2014 12:17 AM  3 years agoPost 13
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it's sickening, it makes you wonder why the big house is painted a nice clean white, maybe barf green would be better

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11-15-2014 12:46 AM  3 years agoPost 14
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Gearhead
it's sickening, it makes you wonder why the big house is painted a nice clean white, maybe barf green would be better

90% of life is "showing up"

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11-15-2014 01:13 AM  3 years agoPost 15
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Can't wait till they Light that big Faraday Cage Up !!! One Heck of a LOT of Sheilding
it's sickening, it makes you wonder why the big house is painted a nice clean white, maybe barf green would be better
The Great White Mosque in

DC turn's into ONE GIANT BUG ZAPPER !!!

Wonder what color it will glow in ??? and if the Sheild will work ?

That was probably the One that missed and they Shanked it !

Won't go with in a Couple of Block' Your Hair will fall out and your filling's will get Hot ! Never have children again !!

ONe Big Lighting Bolt !! Charcoal - POOF

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11-15-2014 01:21 AM  3 years agoPost 16
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The Great White Mosque in DC is a moral ghetto where the inhabitants live in moral poverty.

Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!

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11-15-2014 06:16 AM  3 years agoPost 17
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Slight adjustment in verbage of command of the ENGLISH Lauguage

Their are MANY MORAL GEtto's and MAny Moral places in Poverty of Loving laughing happy as Clam United Families far as OUR standard's are concerned.
The Great White Mosque in DC is a moral ghetto where the inhabitants live in moral poverty.
THE Correct word is IMMORAL :

transgressing accepted moral rules; corrupt
sexually dissolute; profligate or promiscuous
unscrupulous or unethical: immoral trading
tending to corrupt or resulting from corruption: an immoral film, immoral earnings

Re; It Stinkith : Pew Daddy PEW !!!

Most Knew from DAY 1 : We Want OUR MONEY BACK

Take it CASH DIRECTY OUT of THEIR POCKET's / Home's / Retirement /Hidden Shell Saving's Acount's / KEchup Corporation's /Can's of Tuna Fish : ADD up the SUM of LOSS - Take it right back out their pocket's. Loss Control Management - Even if they Have it Hidden Over Sea's

Their's plenty of them associated - They ALL are Accountable

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11-19-2014 03:59 AM  3 years agoPost 18
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Watch at YouTube

The Democrats knew it was all a lie.

90% of life is "showing up"

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