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11-13-2014 10:44 PM  3 years agoPost 21
Cra-Z-1

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Washington,UT-USA

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Just got mine yesterday and really like it. I've been flying a 130x successfully for quite a while now with next to no maintenance. Even with my 130x flying at its best, this new 180x outperforms it hands-down. Been doing rainbows, tick-tocs and tail slides without tail blow out. This thing is quite powerful in contrast. The quality looks superior to previous Blade helis IMO. I really really like the CF frames, the beefier main gear, and boxy tail box. Really glad the "wire" torque tube is a thing of the past now. It shows a huge difference on spool-up. I didnt have to do a thing to this heli out of the box, but the swashplate is sitting a little low from its neutral point, because I have alot travel on the negative pitch side. It will do climbouts exceptionally well. I'm hoping that this heli continues to impress me.

OH....and it sure is nice to be able to do piroettes.

As far as batteries go, this is what I've found and have on order. I used TP batteries in my 130x and found they were superior to alot of other batteries when it came to power output; esp. where the 130x was under powered to begin with.

http://www.thunderpowerrc.com/480-mAh/TP480-3SPP25J

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11-14-2014 04:08 AM  3 years agoPost 22
rpat

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Weirton, W. Va.

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On another site they are talking about a tail kick about every 20 seconds in a hover. The thread has gone on for about 15 pages.
Has any one had this happen to them?

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11-14-2014 04:09 AM  3 years agoPost 23
turboomni

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I am hearing good reports overall. I think I will have to get one once the BIG Boat floods the market with enough 180's and factory parts and aftermarket parts.

Setup is everything, All my heli's can fly far better than I can pilot them

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11-14-2014 12:11 PM  3 years agoPost 24
Retired2011

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Lee's Summit, MO

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One at our field recently, seemed to fly just fine.

I am considering one also, but I still have a bad taste in my mouth from my 130X.

I'll keep waiting.

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11-14-2014 02:13 PM  3 years agoPost 25
TRACERBOB

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I've had one for about a week. All in all I like it.
Pluses:
"real" servos.
Torque tube tail drive.
Castle creations programmable ESC
Carbon Fiber and aluminum frame.

Negatives:
Torque tube
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Fragile, especially the drive couplers. A switch to a nylon material for the couplers would be better.
The canopy.
Same thin plastic as the 130x and is easily damaged.
The color easily blends in with an overcast sky.
It's a tight fit over the battery.

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11-14-2014 03:36 PM  3 years agoPost 26
Steve Graham

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Denver, CO

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Mine has the tail kick. It happens in a hover every few seconds. It's a little twitch where the tail jumps out and back 10 to 20 degrees. I suspect someone will figure out a fix for it eventually. It really doesn't bother me too bad and I don't notice it in maneuvering flight. Much better than the 130 so far otherwise. I really wouldn't want to get hit by these blades though so procede with caution. She's an angry little "B"

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11-14-2014 04:52 PM  3 years agoPost 27
meowguy

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Mine has the tail kick. It happens in a hover every few seconds. It's a little twitch where the tail jumps out and back 10 to 20 degrees.
With a DX6 set your gyro at 75%. With the DX8,9,18 set it at 90%. Reduce your power curves to 50% max. That will handle all but extreme 3D.

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11-14-2014 04:57 PM  3 years agoPost 28
Cra-Z-1

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Washington,UT-USA

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Well....

I've now hit my first problem. Charged up my E-flite battery (the only one I have right now) this morning. It only has 4 charges on it now. Charged it at 2C (1.0 Amps). Verified voltage on the cells prior to flight. They read 4.16, 4.17, 4.18 respectively before flight.

Have the throttle curves set at 0,25,25,25,25 as per the manual in Normal, 0,75,75,75,75 in ST1, and 0,100,100,100,100 in ST2. I have put the heli through 3 successful flights without any issue whatsoever until this morning. Prior to this, I did notice the tail twitch that everyone is talking about, but only noticed it really in Normal flight mode. I have NOT crashed this heli or done anything destructive to it so far.

So this morning I go out, fire up the ESC (Pun intended), it goes through its initialization sequence..I walk over, place the heli on my heli pad and begin to bring up the collective. I generally wait until the sound from the mains evens out, indicating a normalized headspeed, then lift off. As I proceed to maintain a hover all looks good for about 10 seconds, then the tail "really" starts to twitch bad, and I can tell the headspeed is also cutting out. I switch to ST1 to bring the headspeed up to normal flight speed, and the twitch intensifies and the headspeed cutout gets worse. In a bit of a panic I hurry and set the heli down on the pad.

Not really sure of what is going on, I disconnect the battery, shut off the TX and then power everything up again normally. Nothing indicates any kind of problem, no flashing lights, etc. I again proceed to take off. The head spools up..I wait til headspeed is achieved, only this time I barely get off the ground in Normal mode at 25 Throttle, then the motor stops completely, and I cannot bring the motor to spool up AT ALL for as long as I leave the heli powered up. If I go back and power down/re power, I get the same exact result.

Right now I have not been able to take much of a look at anything, but Im suspecting the ESC to have a problem at this point. It possibly COULD be the battery, but its cells are reading right close to 4.0 Volts.

I'll post my findings as I get them.

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11-15-2014 02:55 AM  3 years agoPost 29
Cra-Z-1

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Washington,UT-USA

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Well to follow up on my reported issue...

The problem was fairly easily found, and easily resolved. One of the wires soldered to the bullet connector on my motor was broken under the shrink tube. For those of you familiar with this heli by now, might notice that the velcro strap that holds the battery runs over these leads as routed from the factory. I think with mine, that just tightening that strap to my battery put enough force on those wires to break the wire just above the solder cup. I was a bit concerned about that happening in the future, so I bundled the wires a little closer together, and moved the ESC a little to one side, so that the strap tends to pull more evenly across the wires and ESC board.

Really happy that this was an easily resolved issue! Looking forward to some flight time in the morning! Woot!!

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11-15-2014 12:21 PM  3 years agoPost 30
Retired2011

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Lee's Summit, MO

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Good find, glad you didn't have to crash to find it.

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11-15-2014 04:45 PM  3 years agoPost 31
Cra-Z-1

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Me too! I'm surprised it was flying as good as it was when that happened.

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11-15-2014 08:29 PM  3 years agoPost 32
busaboy98

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gardner ma usa

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180cfx
just got mine three days ago only have three flights been good so far a lot better than 130x but more flight time will tell

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11-16-2014 11:19 AM  3 years agoPost 33
Mitchilito

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Morehead City, NC USA

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You guys are killing me. My wife is hiding mine till xmas!

On the plus side, you all will have the kinks worked out before my first flight and some bling might be available

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11-20-2014 06:51 PM  3 years agoPost 34
buster1

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Manhattan, NY

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throw up some video?

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11-21-2014 09:42 PM  3 years agoPost 35
Cra-Z-1

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I got a hat-cam setup. I'll see if I can get a vid up this weekend, provided weather cooperates.

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11-23-2014 04:40 PM  3 years agoPost 36
busaboy98

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gardner ma usa

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got a couple more fights on her then crash torque tube and striped servo and landing gear hobby shops don't have many parts in stock had tube and had to buy new servo no rebuild kits and no landing gear modified landing gear for a 130x . make the bird sit up higher also miroheli had one style canopy looks good on heli

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11-23-2014 09:58 PM  3 years agoPost 37
Cra-Z-1

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11-24-2014 12:55 AM  3 years agoPost 38
rpat

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Weirton, W. Va.

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After watching those two vids, the thing has a sound of a much bigger heli. Also looks to be on the stable side. What say you Cra-z

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11-24-2014 03:27 PM  3 years agoPost 39
Cra-Z-1

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Washington,UT-USA

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After watching those two vids, the thing has a sound of a much bigger heli. Also looks to be on the stable side. What say you Cra-z
OH....its defnately pissed off, lol! You will want to respect this one a little more than the average micro. It does sound MUCH like a larger heli in a smaller package. I would really like to try some CF blades out. I think I could get a little better response trying to do tic tocs and such.

Its very stable for a heli its size, IMO, and I have flown quite a few of them. It spools up very smooth. The first upgrades I would like to see, are some "quality" Aluminum/Titanium tail components, such as a slider, and grips. There is a bit of slop in the slider/grips, and it makes itself more apparent doing tail slides, etc, as the tail will bobble a bit side to side, but it has never just blown out on me. I think for small plastic components spinning at such speeds, the tail actually does remarkably well though. Its nice at least that Blade chooses to leave things on the cheaper, and let the pilot decide what/where to upgrade, instead of being forced to buy more expensive components in a basic kit.

I also had noticed some head bobble after a dozen or so initial flights. To correct it, I just did the familiar O-ring trick on the head and swash links, like we did with the 130x. Haven't seen the slightest bobble since.

I will have this thing decked out with bling eventually as it becomes available. My favorite upgrade on my 130x was my Extreme DFC links and head.

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11-27-2014 04:44 AM  3 years agoPost 40
ZZ3Astro

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Panama City, Fl

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I've been mostly out of flying for the past few years but got a DJI Phantom a while back and the bug has bitten once again. Decided the Blade 180cfx would be the perfect machine to get some flights done in between my busy schedule these days. This is my first FBL heli (well I did have an MCPX before) and I'm not having a good experience so far.

This is the worst flying heli I've flown since my Piccolo years ago, and that doesn't match what everyone else is saying about it. Something must be wrong. It feels totally disconnected to my control inputs. I feel like I'm chasing it just to hover it and landing ends up with the blades touching the floor almost every time I've tried it today. At this point I have no interest in trying it again because I don't like smashing up new toys.

Radio is a DX-7. All settings are per the instruction manual recommended settings. Swash is level and mid stick is spot on 0 degrees.

Any ideas? I have another one coming so at least I will be able to compare it to another one in a few days. If they both fly this way I will have two 180's for sale this weekend.

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