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10-26-2014 11:48 PM  3 years agoPost 21
JayL

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The problem is when raising the minimum it causes everything else in life to go up. U will be paying 5 dollars for a burger that cost 1 buck earlier. So when the cost of living goes up then 10 bucks will not be enough and u will be right back were u started wanting more money. Its a double edged sword with consequences on both sides.

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10-27-2014 12:00 AM  3 years agoPost 22
dilberteinstein

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they should not be allowed to buy drugs or alcohol
Here's the problem with that...we can't police that. As soon as a law is passed that forbids it, people sell their EBT cards for cash at 50 cents on the dollar.
to many people are over paid for doing nothing at all including bouncing and throwing rubber down a field and our just sitting behind a desk with a pen
Life's not fair and throwing that into the mix makes for a poor discussion: my neighbor is richer than me, younger than me, better looking than me, more athletic than me, has a better personality than me. Too bad.

Funny how people succeed when they have the desire to push themselves beyond their obstacles.

It's good to help people, but it's wrong to be an enabler to the people that are moochers.

Better help is in the form of having people learn to help themselves instead of just sending a government check.

90% of life is "showing up"

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10-27-2014 12:05 AM  3 years agoPost 23
wc_wickedclown (RIP)

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JayL
The problem is when raising the minimum it causes everything else in life to go up. U will be paying 5 dollars for a burger that cost 1 buck earlier. So when the cost of living goes up then 10 bucks will not be enough and u will be right back were u started wanting more money. Its a double edged sword with consequences on both sides.
true and that would be a disaster lol

i like the way you put that down my friend very good point

and more people could end up unemployed .

might be a good idea if our government would pay the wadge difference
so the employer would not have to bare the whole burden

the banks and the government take enough from us they should give some back.

Insha Allah made in america

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10-27-2014 12:43 AM  3 years agoPost 24
GREYEAGLE

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Welcome to the World of Social Entitlement : Tooo NOTHING and ON it Goe's

The ONly thing the Vast amount of Social Support how ever you wish too Badge it or Title it : Vast Number's of program's
LOT's

IT provide's the INCENTIVE NOT TO EARN Responsibility of SELF : Free Moral Agency

It is a INCENTIVE - People Alway's fall in the path of LEAST RESISTANCE for SELF even relationship's are built upon it
{ To Forage or SEEK } : Player's . The can I Borrow ??
As soon as a law is passed that forbids it, people sell their EBT cards for cash at 50 cents on the dollar.
So Laural purchase's a Shopping Cart of Milk : The High Dollar One's with 1.00 deposit per glass container. Takes them into the parking lot and pours them out - Takes the M.T.s right back in the store for the $1.OO bottle deposit's . Then Down to the Brass Rail or Casino or send's it up the Nose.
if our government would pay the wadge difference
so the employer would not have to bare the whole burden
the banks and the government take enough from us they should give some back.
The average individual has 18% to 22% deducted from their NET Payroll - Some as high as 40% OR EVEN more !!!

yOU DO not see it : due to cyber payroll deduction"s = cyber = Invisible !! The Prosperity provided to OTHERS to EaSE Suffering

They ONLY see the CYber NET - Take Home bottom Line: They STILL DO NOT LOOK !! Yet they are short 30 % ?

Yet IT is NOT a MErcy in Disguise ????- THEY SIT AND WAIT & COMPLAIN it is NOT ENOUGH Complaining about the sleepless nites and trial's.
tHEN it get"s worse IF YOU KNOW WHAT STEALTH tax IS !

Imagine if you are a WAGE Earner -- PAID in CASH NET Every FRIDAY
(( NON-CYBER }} : Then going out the door { Their is the Waiting Welfare line}

Listening to the voices - pleading holding their hand out
" Removing the CASH - your sweat " to go back home and Sit till you get done NEXT FRIDAY. To COUNT the FREE CASH of your's - and COMPLAIN it IS NOT ENOUGH

NOW --- HOW IMPORTANT is CITIZEN SHIP ??? Who is paying for what ??
Where has your labor forces and Job's gone ??

Then WHO is Complaining ?? Those sitting --- Waiting for YOUR FRIDAY

FREE MORAL AGENCY : To BE TRUE To ONES SELF :

Then the NEVER THANKYOU"S

Then Screw the Tail on the Dog - Bring YOUR Kingdom - to come Heal OUR Street's and Land and LAY your LIVES DOWN for US ! While we sit and watch and wait

greyeagle

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10-27-2014 02:20 AM  3 years agoPost 25
PBusch

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so where are all of the untrained and uneducated people suppose live that have family's and these folks are not just brown skinned Americans.
The idea is to educate yourself or learn a skill/trade and make enough money to take care of yourself in terms of your basic needs such as food, shelter, health, toys come after all that. Then, and only then, if you can afford it is when you have kids. They cost a lot of money to properly raise. You are not entitled to anything but what you make on your own.

The problem is that society makes too many exceptions and people get trapped into a state of welfare. The only solution is to eliminate welfare with the exception of the TRULY disabled and quit pushing the idea that minimum wage is suppose to afford you a living. Minimum wage was designed to prevent employers from taking advantage of their workers and and at our current minimum wage level that is definitely happening today. Most minimum wage earners are actually overpaid for what they provide a given company.

The sad thing is all these welfare recipients are actually being held down by our welfare system. Sure they have a choice to make something of themselves but the welfare makes it harder for them to get motivated to get off their ass. Raising the minimum wage will never be the answer and will only demotivate a person to get the education or skills to get a real job.

The only thing lower income class people need to focus on is developing themselves, stop making excuses, stop playing the victim, and get off the idea that the "system" will fix things. If they don't they will be trapped until they die.

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10-27-2014 02:49 AM  3 years agoPost 26
Dennis (RIP)

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Here's the problem with that...we can't police that. As soon as a law is passed that forbids it, people sell their EBT cards for cash at 50 cents on the dollar.
THAT is where a thumb print for the card user only would come into play.

But, the fed government has already said they must protect the dignity of the poor, all the while they refuse to recognize the dignity of the ones paying the price.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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10-27-2014 12:09 PM  3 years agoPost 27
baby uh1

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might be a good idea if our government would pay the wadge difference
so the employer would not have to bare the whole burden
Yeah but since the government takes it's money from us that would have the same affect as raising the minimum wage. Inflation for everyone!
In fact the government has been playing this evil game for almost a hundred years now and it has brought us to were we are currently, trapped by our untenable debt.
Besides, a politician is only going to "give" you enough to buy your vote. The big money players are always their first love.

Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!

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10-29-2014 05:33 AM  3 years agoPost 28
wc_wickedclown (RIP)

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Americans like this should be able to get help and this does not just happen to the brown could happen to any of our family members

how is he to get job training when he cant buy cloths and minimum wadge paying job will not even offer him a job sad.

Watch at YouTube

Insha Allah made in america

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10-29-2014 06:05 AM  3 years agoPost 29
Dennis (RIP)

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Help the needy.

To hell with the lazy.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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10-29-2014 06:35 AM  3 years agoPost 30
dilberteinstein

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wc_wickedclown
Americans like this should be able to get help and this does not just happen to the brown could happen to any of our family members
how is he to get job training when he cant buy cloths and minimum wadge paying job will not even offer him a job sad.
The guy and a whole lot more like him are needy. The needy are the ones to help.

This next video shows a woman with 15 kids expecting others to pay for her kids.

Watch at YouTube

90% of life is "showing up"

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10-29-2014 08:01 AM  3 years agoPost 31
wc_wickedclown (RIP)

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dilberteinstein
wc_wickedclown
Americans like this should be able to get help and this does not just happen to the brown could happen to any of our family members
how is he to get job training when he cant buy cloths and minimum wadge paying job will not even offer him a job sad.
The guy and a whole lot more like him are needy. The needy are the ones to help.
This next video shows a woman with 15 kids expecting others to pay for her kids.
her self and her baby dad needs to be held accountable that lady aint got it all.

but she is stock and does need help
they should provide her with a baby sitter and make her go to work

shes is not lazy she is stupid
Dennis

Help the needy.
To hell with the lazy.
+1

Insha Allah made in america

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10-29-2014 01:49 PM  3 years agoPost 32
GREYEAGLE

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She was taught by HER Mother & She will Teach HER Daughter's
Too Find a Man - Hang a pair of trouser's on the End of the BEd .

Keep it Up till you Snare One

Then teach your Daughters : Then They can Blame SAM who is responcible

SAM WIll PAY

Wonder how many Married Life partner's she Has for 15 Kid's

Good Christian Woman in Sexual Purity

greyeagle

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10-29-2014 02:07 PM  3 years agoPost 33
NRoof

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wc_wickedclown
there is no state in the usa

where a 40 hr minimum wage work week

is enough to afford a two bed room apartment .

do you still think minimum wage should not be increased ?
Actually you are not correct.
Min wage in NY is 8:00/hr.
40hrs/week give $320 Gross.
That is $1386.67/month
Take out 20% for taxes and you have $1109.33/month.

I just looked online and can find 2 bedroom apts for $500-$700 per month.
This would leave ~$400/month left over.

It would not be comfortable but it could be done.

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10-29-2014 02:20 PM  3 years agoPost 34
wc_wickedclown (RIP)

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NRoof
wc_wickedclown
[quote]there is no state in the usa

I just looked online and can find 2 bedroom apts for $500-$700 per month.
This would leave ~$400/month left over.
It would not be comfortable but it could be done.
my utilities in my 1 bed room
130 electric
175 food
gas 65
cloths ?

a person would look like a homeless person who cannot by cloths
no one would hire you if you were on such a low income.

Insha Allah made in america

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10-29-2014 02:50 PM  3 years agoPost 35
NRoof

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your statement was you could not afford a 2 bedroom appt. on minimum wage. I simply showed it is possible. Keep in mind you never mentioned everthing else that was needed.

That being said if you have a 2 bedroom you have options:
  1. if you are married your spouse could also work a minimum wage job and then you would have ~$1500/month left over after rent.
  2. If you are single you could get a roommate to split the costs.
Bottom line it is possible but probably not desirable.

The best solution is to use the minimum wage job to survive while getting an education or learning a trade to make more money.

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10-30-2014 01:10 AM  3 years agoPost 36
baby uh1

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And you don't have to work just forty hours a week. I've worked two and three jobs at a time quite a bit during my life.
It made me the overnight success that I am today.

Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!

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10-30-2014 03:54 AM  3 years agoPost 37
PBusch

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Why even bother with a min wage job? Its really not that hard at all to find a job that pays above min wage but it does mean your going to have to actually work. You might even work up a sweat and get your hands and clothes dirty.

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10-30-2014 03:59 AM  3 years agoPost 38
wc_wickedclown (RIP)

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baby uh1
And you don't have to work just forty hours a week. I've worked two and three jobs at a time quite a bit during my life.
It made me the overnight success that I am today.
those were the good old days when people could have 2 and 3 jobs

people are luck if they can find one job today

Insha Allah made in america

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10-30-2014 05:54 AM  3 years agoPost 39
GREYEAGLE

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You where Never Learned :
To go too bed Tired and Get Up Hungry and start Running .

Carried a Paper Rout of 90 as a kid : AM and the P.M. YES - Their where TWO Paper releases !!

Then the Sunday's Only ! the Cheap Screw's that drove you Nutt's ! --

PLUS the Registrar on Sunday's !!! !

When Thank's Given Thursday rolled around they would shove a pallet off a truck. then find your second drop and Toss 3 Bundels from some loser that couldn't get out of bed and you knew his route.

Git Er Done by 7.30 A.M or they call the House and WHine

Got his collection's TOO & Got their Mowing and Snow Shoveling

Today it's go to bed and fart and try to fall asleep - because you Fart all Nite & slept all day.

Then -- AFTER the PAper it was over to Herfel's on Saturday to WASH part's in Piled Mountain in the Dip TAnk. Vulcanize them Old Sulfer patches on Tubes, and break tires - SPooned ALOT by HAND using Beater's !!! and Work the gas island !.

After School ? All the Bench time you wanted breaking down Carb's for the Soak Tank's.

Gas Island ?? for some lady that just wanted her window washed !

Sunday ?? You got the Rack cause it was CLOSED ! but you had to clean the Pit. They knew you was in their - We NOT HOME

Why you got the FUN STUFF : You just smelled like Gasoline :

Job's are their - you just Fart alot

greyeagle

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10-30-2014 06:03 AM  3 years agoPost 40
wc_wickedclown (RIP)

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GREYEAGLE

You where Never Learned :
To go too bed Tired and Get Up Hungry and start Running .
you ever eat a ketchup sandwich ? or banana and mayonnaise sandwich

and if when we were really poor and hungry we use to find a news paper
artificial with a picture of a turkey then we would eat the picture on thanks giving wash it down with water num num

Insha Allah made in america

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