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10-26-2014 02:26 PM  4 years agoPost 21
revmix

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10-26-2014 05:49 PM  4 years agoPost 22
JasonJ

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I ran a rappy 50 flybarless with beastx, an Outrage fbl head and fairly low torque servos and it flew fine. Put stronger servos in and it was much better.

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10-27-2014 03:50 PM  4 years agoPost 23
Rudy

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Well at least no one told you to throw the whole setup away and start with new.

There is nothing stopping you from flying it like it is. Just replace the TX/RX battery's, the fuel line and go fly. It's cheap and it will be fun.

If you want to try flybarless, then just pick a FBL unit. There are many to chose from. In the setup most all of them allow you to select reg or digital servos. Give your old servos a try. Then IF you dont like them replace them.

The point is you dont have to spend all this money up front and may not need to spend it at all.

GO fly and fix the issues that YOU feel need to be addressed.

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10-28-2014 01:24 AM  4 years agoPost 24
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Yeah there is nothing wrong with flying flybar. My trex 500 is a flybar machine and frankly I have just as much fun with it. Yeah you correct more but that makes you a more rounded flyer.

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10-28-2014 01:35 AM  4 years agoPost 25
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Just my 2c but I wouldn't upgrade your Raptors to FBL - they fly just fine with the mechanical head and the electronics you have in it.

The cost of the kit is just a part of the cost. It'd probably be cheaper to buy a new kit bundled with a FBL controller and servos than to upgrade the Raptor mechanically and electronics to support FBL

I like Raptors.

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10-28-2014 06:38 PM  4 years agoPost 26
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Thanks for all the many helpful replies everyone. I think I will just fly these old Raptors with how they are now, and upgrade as I move forward. I always liked the way Raptors flew, and never had a big desire to try other brands much. I started off in 1982 with a GMP Cobra with an airplane .40, mechanical gyro, and no electronic mixing - had to do it with mechanical coupling on servos from throttle to pitch. Also, the little fine motor wire would break in the mechanical gyro's and so you never knew when the tail might go wild. Building a set of blades took a couple of hours after you learned how to do them. No simulators to practice with, so every new move might end up in a major crash, which always made one hold back from trying too many new things. Ah, them were the days!! rf

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10-30-2014 01:36 PM  4 years agoPost 27
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Well at least no one told you to throw the whole setup away and start with new.
There is nothing stopping you from flying it like it is. Just replace the TX/RX battery's, the fuel line and go fly. It's cheap and it will be fun.
I agree Rudy.

Wayne - Fly it like you stole it! You're in good hands with Runryder!

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10-30-2014 02:58 PM  4 years agoPost 28
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Have have converted a few of mine to fbl as well, im not fermilliar with those servos, which would prob work if u found a fbl unit that would drive them.
The flying diff on my R 50 titan was substantial, as many suggested fly her fb first and make sure u wanna get back in. Then u can weigh ur options, im using an outrage head and swash driver. Power hd servos, ar7200bx, which is very easy to setup. I also changed my pitch arm to metal, its a very nice upgrade and super easy and quick setup.
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10-30-2014 09:52 PM  4 years agoPost 29
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Most newer FBL units will work with analog or digital servos via a type servo selection menu. So, your 4131s would likely do fine as long as your FBL unit is compatible and programmed correctly. The only other issue I would mention here is the gears. I wouldn't recommend the use of plastic gearing if you plan on slamming your rappy around at all. But, if it's just some lazy 3D and sport flying in your plans, I'd say you'll be fine.

As already stated, a head conversion is pretty darn simple and cheap if you have a few spares laying around. So, if that's where you'd like to go with your rappy then go for it.

Your Tx, will work with your FBL program fairly easily as long is it has the dedicated heli program installed. JR's heli program is basically the exact same now as it was in 2002 give or take a few additions and the menu interface. 72mhz might be an issue with some of the "all-in-one" units that double as Rx's as well as a FBL controller.

In a nutshell, yes, you could do a budget conversion with what you have, but don't expect a rocketship 3D superstar.

Long story short, it's all about having fun. And that conversion sounds like a hoot

Mellisa

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10-30-2014 11:15 PM  4 years agoPost 30
airdodger

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Ham band is fine, very few flying ham then and now. Those were fine servos and will do fine if compatible. That is the servo the guys were using and doing 3D with sixty size machines back then so I would think a thirty is no problem. I still have 4131 in some of my MA helis. Why the change to fbl, just wondering. The new stuff is great, I would upgrade the whole deal if I were changing.

Chris

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